Trump Endorses Dr. Oz in Pennsylvania Senate

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annie8 said:

But Trump missed the mark here.

And he's made other mistakes too, just as every human being on the face of the earth does. Anyone who thinks anyone who holds a political office is above making the wrong decision it's just a fooling themselves.
Did you mean Trump? I don't think he agrees with you because this weekend he said, "I think I'm the most honest human being perhaps that God ever created." He's always right, as usual.
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Retired FBI Agent said:

annie8 said:

But Trump missed the mark here.

And he's made other mistakes too, just as every human being on the face of the earth does. Anyone who thinks anyone who holds a political office is above making the wrong decision it's just a fooling themselves.
Did you mean Trump? I don't think he agrees with you because this weekend he said, "I think I'm the most honest human being perhaps that God ever created." He's always right, as usual.

Your daily TDS post is intact.

He's certainly one of the most open.

I guess you're confused with all the honesty coming from Biden and Harris.
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"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Trump also appointed Treasonous Milley Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so I am not sure if you want to go down that path


Oz will be politically beholden to Trump. He will be under Trump's thumb. A sack of crap who votes how Trump tells him is good as good.

I do not know Trump's options for Joint Chief Chair. Someone else can speak to that. Even if Trump missed that one, Instill like his batting average.
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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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Trump also appointed Treasonous Milley Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so I am not sure if you want to go down that path


Oz will be politically beholden to Trump. He will be under Trump's thumb. A sack of crap who votes how Trump tells him is good as good.

I do not know Trump's options for Joint Chief Chair. Someone else can speak to that. Even if Trump missed that one, Instill like his batting average.


Miley
Barr
Sessions
Mattis
Tillerson
Pence
Elaine Chao
Bannon
Manafort
Bolton
Kelly
Omarosa
Tom Price
Scarmuchi

Per most of this board, Trump picked a lot of deep staters or outright failures. Hiring/endorsing good people was his biggest failing in my opinion.
Faustus
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Kushner didn't turn on him and was used in several areas. So you have to think Trump has at least one card to play that makes the deep state foes feel confident.
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Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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Trump also appointed Treasonous Milley Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so I am not sure if you want to go down that path


Oz will be politically beholden to Trump. He will be under Trump's thumb. A sack of crap who votes how Trump tells him is good as good.

I do not know Trump's options for Joint Chief Chair. Someone else can speak to that. Even if Trump missed that one, Instill like his batting average.


His batting average was awful, and was a major reason why and how he squandered two years of a GOP House and Senate with little to show for it other than temporary tax cuts.

The guy was supremely lazy in his vetting and hiring.
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BigJim49 AustinNowDallas
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BCR said:

Rossticus said:

Rapier108 said:

Trump showed his ass on this one.

Oz is not a conservative whatsoever.


Yep. Oz is an opportunistic fruitcake and not remotely conservative.
You do realize so was Trump.
He was a Democrat his whole life until he saw am opportunity.
Overnight he became a bible toting conservative.
Like Reagan!
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bigcat22 said:


Hannity does whatever Trump tells him to do.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Im Gipper
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Say what?

Any Texags Politics folks in PA? PLEASE vote against this Clown.





(Early and often).

I'm Gipper
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BoydCrowder13 said:

Agsuffering@bulaw said:

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Trump also appointed Treasonous Milley Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, so I am not sure if you want to go down that path


Oz will be politically beholden to Trump. He will be under Trump's thumb. A sack of crap who votes how Trump tells him is good as good.

I do not know Trump's options for Joint Chief Chair. Someone else can speak to that. Even if Trump missed that one, Instill like his batting average.


Miley
Barr
Sessions
Mattis
Tillerson
Pence
Elaine Chao
Bannon
Manafort
Bolton
Kelly
Omarosa
Tom Price
Scarmuchi

Per most of this board, Trump picked a lot of deep staters or outright failures. Hiring/endorsing good people was his biggest failing in my opinion.
This is correct. It is, however, a bit 'non-linear' if you will, as a lot of those came in his first 6 to 12 months in politics. I don't think he realized what he was dealing with for at least that period (or the first part of it).

I think the Mueller/Comey/Flynn etc. stuff woke him up to some of it, though it was too late and of course he lacked the message discipline/ideological discipline to defeat it, especially once Fauci-flu came at him.

Absent Fauci, I maintain we'd all be a lot wealthier/safer today.
BusterAg
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Trump is a narcistic, egotistical, asinine, Jersey Shore meat head, whose largest fault as a politician is his extremely undisciplined communication.

Of course he also championed fantastic policies, embraced patriotism and the working class, got meaningful things passed in a toxic environment, and had this country rocking in a way that no one has since Reagan.

I would vote for anyone from snufflelupagus to just shy of Hannibal Lector if he had the same policies (pre-Covid) and effectiveness of Trump.

If Oz follows the Trump platform, I don't care if he decorates his office to look like the emerald city.
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What in Oz's background makes you think he'd follow a "Trump platform"?

Supporting Oz is idiocy.
Science Denier
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Reagan was a democrat and switched sides, like Trump.
Unlike Trump, Reagan gave amnesty to illegals.
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BMX Bandit said:

What in Oz's background makes you think he'd follow a "Trump platform"?

Supporting Oz is idiocy.
He will support Trump's platform because he said he would. I don't think he's a blatant liar. While he may not be "conservative", he's probably against the whacked out lib insider run DC.
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BMX Bandit
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Trump tried. Freedom caucus stopped
him

I have no problem with supporting Trump. He earned it. Oz? He's a clown.
Rockdoc
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What's wrong with Oz? Seen him on tv a few times but know nothing of his announced policies.
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Rockdoc said:

What's wrong with Oz? Seen him on tv a few times but know nothing of his announced policies.
Interview: McCaskill asked him about describing certain supplements on his show as a "magic weight-loss cure," and "the No. 1 miracle in a bottle." She said,
"I don't get why you say this stuff because you know it's not true. So why, when you have this amazing megaphone and this amazing ability to communicate, why would you cheapen your show by saying things like that?"
And:
"I get that you do a lot of good on your show, but I don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true."
His (weak) answers:
"I actually do personally believe in the items I talk about in the show. I passionately study them. I recognize that often times they don't have the scientific muster to present as fact."
And:
"My job, I feel, on the show is to be a cheerleader for the audience when they don't think they have hope and they don't think they can make it happen.

Hippo Oath: I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath#cite_note-6][6][/url] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course.

The guy is an opportunist.
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Rockdoc
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Yeah that doesn't surprise me. Snake oil salesman turns politician. Shocker.
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DR oz is a satanist.
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Vepp said:

Rockdoc said:

What's wrong with Oz? Seen him on tv a few times but know nothing of his announced policies.
Interview: McCaskill asked him about describing certain supplements on his show as a "magic weight-loss cure," and "the No. 1 miracle in a bottle." She said,
"I don't get why you say this stuff because you know it's not true. So why, when you have this amazing megaphone and this amazing ability to communicate, why would you cheapen your show by saying things like that?"
And:
"I get that you do a lot of good on your show, but I don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true."
His (weak) answers:
"I actually do personally believe in the items I talk about in the show. I passionately study them. I recognize that often times they don't have the scientific muster to present as fact."
And:
"My job, I feel, on the show is to be a cheerleader for the audience when they don't think they have hope and they don't think they can make it happen.

Hippo Oath: I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath#cite_note-6][6][/url] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course.

The guy is an opportunist.

If he's an opportunist, why go to the Senate and get bogged down in all that? He isn't going to make more money. He's isn't going to get more publicity. There's literally nothing in it for him to be an establishment Senator.

Not saying anyone is wrong on what they've said about his past views or whether the swamp will subsume him but I'm not following the so-called logic that he intends to spend time and money in an iffy Senate race for something that doesn't seem to benefit him too much. At his age and status level, being the Senator from Pennsylvania, especially the Republican CANDIDATE, can really only hurt. Maybe once he wins and is sworn in, a lot of that will be glazed over but I can't believe no one has told him the ride will be rough.
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Why not support the other people in the GOP primary?

McCormick has endorsements from Cruz, Santorum, Pompeo etc.


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BMX Bandit said:

Why not support the other people in the GOP primary?

McCormick has endorsements from Cruz, Santorum, Pompeo etc.
I have no idea about this particular race or why Trump think this guy is the best candidate to beat whatever lib he's going to run against.

But, if Trump endorses him, there is a reason and he's found someone that will support his message.
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Vepp said:

Rockdoc said:

What's wrong with Oz? Seen him on tv a few times but know nothing of his announced policies.
Interview: McCaskill asked him about describing certain supplements on his show as a "magic weight-loss cure," and "the No. 1 miracle in a bottle." She said,
"I don't get why you say this stuff because you know it's not true. So why, when you have this amazing megaphone and this amazing ability to communicate, why would you cheapen your show by saying things like that?"
And:
"I get that you do a lot of good on your show, but I don't get why you need to say this stuff because you know it's not true."
His (weak) answers:
"I actually do personally believe in the items I talk about in the show. I passionately study them. I recognize that often times they don't have the scientific muster to present as fact."
And:
"My job, I feel, on the show is to be a cheerleader for the audience when they don't think they have hope and they don't think they can make it happen.

Hippo Oath: I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippocratic_Oath#cite_note-6][6][/url] Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course.

The guy is an opportunist.
So, pretty much the same as Trump?

I will dog on this guy to no end if he doesn't vote for conservative policies.

If he does. Eh..

Also, the fewer swamp creatures in DC the better. I want outcast outsiders like him in DC right now.
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But, if Trump endorses him, there is a reason and he's found someone that will support his message.
given the long list of people Trump has appointed or been associated with that turned out to be complete losers, Trump's endorsement should not be sufficient reason for a conservative to support a candidate.

look at the issues. thats how you should decide the best candidate for conservatism. there is zero reason to support Oz if you are a conservative given the other choices in the primary.
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BMX Bandit said:

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But, if Trump endorses him, there is a reason and he's found someone that will support his message.
given the long list of people Trump has appointed or been associated with that turned out to be complete losers, Trump's endorsement should not be sufficient reason for a conservative to support a candidate.

look at the issues. thats how you should decide the best candidate for conservatism. there is zero reason to support Oz if you are a conservative given the other choices in the primary.


BMX just answered why Trump is endorsing this moron.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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BMX Bandit said:

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But, if Trump endorses him, there is a reason and he's found someone that will support his message.
given the long list of people Trump has appointed or been associated with that turned out to be complete losers, Trump's endorsement should not be sufficient reason for a conservative to support a candidate.

look at the issues. thats how you should decide the best candidate for conservatism. there is zero reason to support Oz if you are a conservative given the other choices in the primary.
Hmmmm

Which Congressman / Senator that Trump endorsed turned out to NOT support Trump's policies? I don't know of any, but I'm not that up to speed.
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Elise Stefanik & Lindsey Graham immediately come to mind.


Can you give any reason to support Oz other than "because Trump endorsed him"?
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BMX Bandit said:

Elise Stefanik & Lindsey Graham immediately come to mind.


Can you give any reason to support Oz other than "because Trump endorsed him"?


1. No I can't. I don't really support Iz or not support him. My comments are why Trump supports Oz.
2. A quick look into Stefanik doesn't show any voting against Trump policies. She's run as a pro-life candidate, but she's from New York and needs to get votes. Not every (R) will agree 100% with every conservative. I know she went after Liz Chaney pretty hard.
3. Not sure about Graham. Did Trump endorse him over a democrat opponent, or in a primary? Not a Huge fan of Graham, but reality is he's not going anywhere.
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Trump loves fellow celebrities, he feels a kinship with them that they also have the "it" factor to make a name for themselves.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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He probably thinks he is the only one with a shot to win

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Science Denier said:

BMX Bandit said:

Why not support the other people in the GOP primary?

McCormick has endorsements from Cruz, Santorum, Pompeo etc.
I have no idea about this particular race or why Trump think this guy is the best candidate to beat whatever lib he's going to run against.

But, if Trump endorses him, there is a reason and he's found someone that will support his message.

The reason is "kissed Trump's ass".

Let's not pretend that Trump has some thorough vetting process.
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Science Denier said:

BMX Bandit said:

Why not support the other people in the GOP primary?

McCormick has endorsements from Cruz, Santorum, Pompeo etc.
I have no idea about this particular race or why Trump think this guy is the best candidate to beat whatever lib he's going to run against.

But, if Trump endorses him, there is a reason and he's found someone that will support his message.
for some reason Trump really hates McCormick

he blasted him over and over again at the PA rally

I want whoever has the best chance to win the seat in November. My guess is that would be Dr. Oz who would appeal to more centrists than McCormick.
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