I am building in geothermal cooling into my new home in Alabama which also works for geothermal heating as the cycle is reversed. But lets just say its multitudes of times more expensive to install than standard central heat/air. I am going for long term savings.

Issue is.... most lower income and middle income people can not afford this. And now restricting the working class access to natural gas?

New York and California has lost their minds long ago

Kind of hard to ignore the efficiency of what it takes to get the electricity to the resistive heat element isn't it?

Libs will ban campfires one day.

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This one is pretty straight forward.

Burn the gas on site and use the heat directly? Or burn it miles away to create steam to turn a turbine to turn a generator and transmit the electricity to a site and sight and use really inefficient means to create heat to use.

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Electric heat is the most efficient heat source, it's 100% efficient.

However, it's also much more expensive the natural gas for heating. A good natural gas furnace is up to 96% efficient.

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Prove it.

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It is correct, when you only consider the energy input into the heater and the heat that you get out.

But what is missing is the 30-35% efficiency of the natural gas power plant (or coal) providing the electricity, not to mention the line losses getting the power from the generator to the home.

Read the first two paragraphs:

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Electric resistance heating is 100% energy efficient in the sense that all the incoming electric energy is converted to heat. However, most electricity is produced from coal, gas, or oil generators that convert only about 30% of the fuel's energy into electricity. Because of electricity generation and transmission losses, electric heat is often more expensive than heat produced in homes or businesses that use combustion appliances.
If electricity is the only choice, heat pumps are preferable in most climates, as they easily cut electricity use by 50% when compared with electric resistance heating. There may be some exceptions, such as in climates with so few heating days that the cost of heating with electric resistance is not significant.
Electric resistance heating may also make sense for a home addition if it is not practical to extend the existing heating system to supply heat to the new addition.

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They are saying the opposite of what you intended. Basically, avoid electrical resistance heating unless you seldom need heat. If you can pipe gas into your house, that's best. If not heat pumps. When you burn the gas to get electricity you only get about 30% back.

COP (coefficient of performance) is 1.0 for resistance heating, but it's 3.0 or more for heat pumps.

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The coefficient of performance or COP (sometimes CP or CoP) of a heat pump, refrigerator or air conditioning system is a ratio of useful heating or cooling provided to work (energy) required.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance#cite_note-1][1][/url][url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance#cite_note-2][2][/url] Higher COPs equate to higher efficiency, lower energy (power) consumption and thus lower operating costs. The COP usually exceeds 1, especially in heat pumps, because, instead of just converting work to heat (which, if 100% efficient, would be a COP of 1), it pumps additional heat from a heat source to where the heat is required. Most air conditioners have a COP of 2.3 to 3.5. Less work is required to move heat than for conversion into heat, and because of this, heat pumps, air conditioners and refrigeration systems can have a coefficient of performance greater than one. However, this does not mean that they are more than 100% efficient, in other words, no heat engine can have a thermal efficiency of 100% or greater. For complete systems, COP calculations should include energy consumption of all power consuming auxiliaries. The COP is highly dependent on operating conditions, especially absolute temperature and relative temperature between sink and system, and is often graphed or averaged against expected conditions.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_performance#cite_note-3][3][/url] Performance of absorption refrigerator chillers is typically much lower, as they are not heat pumps relying on compression, but instead rely on chemical reactions driven by hea

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This war on coal, oil & gas has got to stop. Wind turbines should be banned in all states and all Federal lands, including offshore.

Wind turbine farms should be picketed and entryways blocked, Legislation must be passed banning all wind turbines. We should quit worrying about carbon emissions and never discuss them when having conversations with the Left. All existing wind turbines must be dismantled.