Six Dead, Nine injured in Downtown Sacramento Shooting

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ThunderCougarFalconBird said:

BQ78 said:

Aren't automatics illegal? Are our ears deceiving us?
no but they're difficult and extremely expensive to get. Functioning pre-ban full auto submachine gun usually has a minimum price tag around 10k. Full auto rifles usually start around 15-20. Plus the NFA paperwork.
They may be illegal in the People's Democratic Republic of Commie-fornia, but I'm not sure.

They are not illegal, but, as stated, difficult and expensive under federal law.

Full autos, like pretty much all guns, were not controlled in any way by the Federal .gov until the National Firearms Act (NFA) of 1934. That law required all full autos (defined as firing more than one round for each pull of the trigger) as well as short barreled rifles and shotguns, and suppressors, to obtain a $200 tax stamp (~$4200 in today's U.S. dollars lite). This was intended to make such items cost prohibitive, without outright banning them. However, the price of a tax stamp was not indexed to inflation and has never been increased.

The Hughes Act of 1986 barred the issue of new tax stamps for full autos manufactured or entered into the registry after that date. This is why an M-16A2 rifle (with 3 round burst, and thus full auto according to federal law), which had a list cost on my unit property book of $279, would cost in the low 5 figures if you wanted to buy one today, assuming you could find one for sale in the first place.

Now, in that video, I didn't hear anything I could positively identify as full auto gunfire. I heard I think 5 rapid fire semi-auto shots, and then some stuttering sounds that might be full auto fire or might not, but it's too faint/far away to tell.
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Open Carry passes in Texas and the lefties scream, "It's gonna be the Wild Wild West".

Lefties create no gun zones which are nothing but, "The Wild Wild West".
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SchizoAg said:

I'm tired of all of the timidity half measures.

We should just make all crime illegal and be done with it!



Correct. All bad things illegal. Will be a utopian society before long.
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That wasn't automatic fire. Not even close.
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Rapier108 said:

Dark_Knight said:

Why not talk about stuff that actually happens here?

https://dfwscanner.net/2022/04/03/10-people-shot-during-outdoor-concert-in-dallas/
Based on the type of concert, we already know what happened and the media won't seriously cover it because it doesn't fit the narrative. Police have already said that a fight broke out between two groups, and then they pulled guns and started blasting away.

Also, given the number of people hit vs. the number killed, it was likely gang members who were just spraying bullets rather than actually aiming at anyone specific.
Associated Press has it on the front page of their US page. SAC story is #2 and DAL #8.

https://apnews.com/article/media-shootings-2764e1b2b6c6ec05a58b2ae8906bf612

https://apnews.com/article/dallas-crime-shootings-police-f80cdffe3ad4e45cacd08b2a53d4644a
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SMM48 said:

That wasn't automatic fire. Not even close.
One stolen handgun was recovered. Result: Xiden wants to ban mean looking guns and 'high capacity' magazines. (Again, no evidence these were used, nor is the use of an illegally possessed gun somehow legal today.)

Brain dead poopy pants response.
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First is someone with a semi-auto handgun. Second note distant burst has a rate of fire faster than most people who don't practice rapid trigger pulls would fire. Possibly a illegally modified handgun but hard to say with all the echoes on that one. It could be someone just mag dumping as fast as they possibly can, or maybe a couple of more people starting up at once. The rates of fire on different modifications could vary significantly, also, for a firearm modified to fire full auto when it was not originally designed to do so.
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You're missing my point.

Yes, it will get covered initially, but once the details come out, unless it can be used to push an agenda, it will quickly disappear.

As an example, the Wal-Mart shooting in El Paso is still brought up by the anti-gun crowd. It is also brought up as "proof" that Trump causes "white supremacist violence" even though the shooter was a Bernie Bro.

The same day a guy shot a bunch of people in Dayton, Ohio. That story disappeared within a few days, never to be mentioned again. Why? The guy was antifa and his social media history was very much open about it.
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Automatic gunfire?
CNN Mostly peaceful protester style reporting....
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Boo Weekley said:

This video is crazy. That was A LOT of gunfire. The fight outside the club seems completely unrelated to me. Apparently all these clubs/bars recently started opening up. I bet incidents like this will be more common than in the past as people forgot how to socialize and properly interact thanks to the Covid policy of white liberals.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/Cb5gsnfluAu/?utm_medium=copy_link
Lots of shots, but no automatic fire
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nortex97 said:

SMM48 said:

That wasn't automatic fire. Not even close.
One stolen handgun was recovered. Result: Xiden wants to ban mean looking guns and 'high capacity' magazines. (Again, no evidence these were used, nor is the use of an illegally possessed gun somehow legal today.)

Brain dead poopy pants response.
Anything over 10 is already illegal in CA...how did that law work out for errbody?
nortex97
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Yep. Here is a happier gun story today from the non-communist state of Ohio.
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Arrested one person, a "related suspect"? Mr. Dandrae. PD says they expect more arrests...

https://apnews.com/article/business-sacramento-california-shootings-violence-cb792c0ce70b5bd2c59dae52a97422b1


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SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) Sacramento police announced an arrest Monday connected to the shooting that killed six people and wounded a dozen others in the heart of California's capital as at least two shooters fired more than 100 rounds and people ran for their lives.

Police said they booked Dandrae Martin, 26, as a "related suspect" on charges of assault with a deadly weapon and being a convict carrying a loaded gun. Detectives and SWAT team members found one handgun during searches of three homes in the area.

The arrest came as the six victims killed were identified in the shooting that occurred Sunday at about 2 a.m. as bars were closing and patrons filled the streets near the state Capitol.

The Sacramento County coroner identified the three women killed as Johntaya Alexander, 21; Melinda Davis, 57; and Yamile Martinez-Andrade, 21. The three men killed were Sergio Harris, 38; Joshua Hoye-Lucchesi, 32; and Devazia Turner, 29.

The burst of rapid-fire gunshots sent people running in terror in the neighborhood just a few blocks from Golden One Arena, where the NBA's Sacramento Kings held a moment of silence for the victims before their game Sunday night.

Detectives were trying to determine if a stolen handgun found at the crime scene was connected to the shooting, Police Chief Kathy Lester said. She pleaded with the public to share videos and other evidence that could lead to the killers.

"The scale of violence that just happened in our city is unprecedented during my 27 years here," Lester told reporters during a news conference at police headquarters. "We are shocked and heartbroken by this tragedy."

Martin was not arrested for any homicide-related charge, District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert said. "The investigation is highly complex involving many witnesses, videos of numerous types and significant physical evidence," Schubert said in a statement. "This is an ongoing investigation and we anticipate more arrests in this case."

He was held without bail and was scheduled to appear in Sacramento Superior Court on Tuesday, according to jail records. His criminal record was not disclosed but records showed he was also wanted on a misdemeanor warrant by the Riverside County Sheriff's Department in Southern California.


https://apnews.com/article/business-sacramento-california-shootings-violence-cb792c0ce70b5bd2c59dae52a97422b1


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Rapier108 said:

You're missing my point.

Yes, it will get covered initially, but once the details come out, unless it can be used to push an agenda, it will quickly disappear.

As an example, the Wal-Mart shooting in El Paso is still brought up by the anti-gun crowd. It is also brought up as "proof" that Trump causes "white supremacist violence" even though the shooter was a Bernie Bro.

The same day a guy shot a bunch of people in Dayton, Ohio. That story disappeared within a few days, never to be mentioned again. Why? The guy was antifa and his social media history was very much open about it.
Oh I see. Gotcha.

Biden did (his speech writer) put out a statement yesterday on it.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/04/03/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-the-mass-shooting-in-sacramento/

Probably won't hear much more.
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Dandrae?

Scandinavian, maybe?
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***UPDATE***

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One of the alleged shooters in a mass shooting that killed six people in Sacramento last Sunday was released from prison six years early by the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation, even though the man has a long and violent criminal record.

The Sacramento District Attorney's office strongly opposed the man's early release, claiming, correctly, "If he is released early, he will continue to break the law."

Responsibility for the mass shooting, which killed a homeless woman, lies with Governor Gavin Newsom who appointed the head of the California Department of Corrections, which already reduced California's prison population by nearly 30,000 inmates since 2019, and is seeking to reduce it by an additional 76,000.

The tragedy could have been prevented had Martin not been released, or been released under strict parole supervision, including electronic monitoring, and unannounced searches of his home by a parole officer for weapons.

"Despite a two-page letter to the Board of Parole Hearings urging that Martin remain in custody," reports the Sacramento Bee, he won his release and was in Sacramento on Saturday night recording himself on a Facebook Live video brandishing a handgun hours before the shooting."
Michael Shellenberger author of San Fransicko
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