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AggieUSMC said:

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...and everyone hated it

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However, America tried this before and the country hated it. In the early 1970s, America was facing an energy crisis so the government tried an experiment. Congress passed a law to make daylight saving time permanent year round, but just for two years. The thinking was more sunlight in the evening would reduce the nation's energy consumption.

It didn't work, said David Prerau, one of the nation's foremost experts on the issue.
"It became very unpopular very quickly," he told NPR.

Americans do not like changing their clocks, but they disliked even more going to work and school in the dark for months the price the nation had to pay for more sunlight in winter evenings.
It also didn't reduce energy consumption as intended. In 1974, Congress repealed the law before the two-year experiment was even up. Nearly 50 years later, Congress is back at it.

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I did not know this was tried before. It happened just a couple of years before I was born.

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Who cares what boomers thought back in 1970.

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lol, the oldest boomers were 28 in 1974. Boomers weren't running the show. Boomers were barely old enough to be reps and weren't old enough to be senators. Plenty of boomers weren't even 18.

I was 10 when they repealed it. I don't remember anything about it.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Standard time forever!

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I'd rather not have a 4:30 am sunrise and 7:00 pm sunset in June. I'd rather go forward another hour and stay there. That would make December better for us.

Success wholly depends on the goal, with proper guidance and reasoning from Congress (I know, good luck with a unified front and message). The focus on the first go-round was energy conservation, and when that didn't come to fruition, it was too easy to throw our hands up and abandon the change. Also, change is always unpopular with some group(s) and they'll rail against this legislation regardless of logic. If the media will allow it to happen, then leave it be (I know, good luck with this, too), this change will take.

There is a simple solution for those who want more sunlight. Get out of bed earlier, go to work earlier, and tee off earlier. Instead the government is being used to impose an unnatural change on the rest of us, so kids wait for the bus in the dark and people drive to work in the dark. And when dear-old Ben Franklin or the racist Woodrow Wilson was around one could legitimately make a case for the energy savings because the cost of lighting was exponentially higher. Now we have LEDs. The detrimental health effects are also well studied and documented. It's time (pun intended) for DST to go. Only Rubio and the other clowns who sponsored the bill to make this permanent are dumb enough to think its a good idea.

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And when dear-old Ben Franklin or the racist Woodrow Wilson

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Please never use their names in the same sentence.

We actually lived up north in the early 70s. It sucked during the winter going to school in the dark and then it was getting dark an hour or so after returning home.(If the buses were running on schedule, that is.)

Barely saw the house in daylight except for the weekends.

8:30 sunrises are a non starter for me.

revvie said:

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I remember it as I was at A&M. Other than walking in the dark to get to 8am class no big deal. Opponents to it cited elementary school students standing in dark waiting for buses, etc.

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They already do this for part of the year in most places.

Shagga said:

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There is a simple solution for those who want more sunlight. Get out of bed earlier, go to work earlier, and tee off earlier. Instead the government is being used to impose an unnatural change on the rest of us, so kids wait for the bus in the dark and people drive to work in the dark. And when dear-old Ben Franklin or the racist Woodrow Wilson was around one could legitimately make a case for the energy savings because the cost of lighting was exponentially higher. Now we have LEDs. The detrimental health effects are also well studied and documented. It's time (pun intended) for DST to go. Only Rubio and the other clowns who sponsored the bill to make this permanent are dumb enough to think its a good idea.

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Like greater vitamin D and less seasonal depression? Trying to think of what detrimental side effects there could be from it not getting dark outside by 5-5:30pm in the winter time.

Bubblez said:

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8:30 sunrises are a non starter for me.

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I think there could be a shift in timezones if we do year-round daylight savings. A state like Michigan wouldn't have sunrise until nearly 10AM in the middle of winter. By the time the sun is up it's lunch time.

Standard Time and Bevels are both tools of Satan

Bubblez said:

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8:30 sunrises are a non starter for me.

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It's the worst. We start at 8am at my company and we have had the most unproductive week in memory since the switch. This time of year and people's bodies adjusting are the worst.

I am about to say fk our boomers at our office that like starting at 8 and leaving at 5 and just move everything back an hour. So stupid but whatever.

I already go to work in the dark so big whoop.

C@LAg said:

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ABATTBQ11 said:

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Standard time forever!

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death to standard-timers!!!!!

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Standard is basically sun time, noon when the sun is highest at the center of the zone. Best time ever. Daylight changes gradually by the creators great design. Do not put stupid step functions into our time.

Just keep it the way it is

Whiners can just shut up and deal with it

barney94 said:

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Fall back 30 minutes in November and call it done forever

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This times a billion.

I was reading about time in China. It apparently still has just one official time zone, though groups like the Uighurs still continue to observe local time. I'm sure that helps with their Social Credit scores.

Everyone huh? Doubtful.

bmks270 said:

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How about businesses set their hours to what is good for the employees? And local schools can do the same. Why don't we set different hours instead of changing the time on the clock?

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You think businesses and schools are going to worry about that hassle? It would never cross the majority of their minds.

wbt5845 said:

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The argument for universal DST is that people "do" more stuff after work.

That might be true, but there are many who "do" lots of stuff, like running, working out, etc, before work.

If you want more daylight after work, go in earlier. If your company doesn't allow that, learn to code.

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The amount of those people pale in comparison to those who do activities after work.

Sounds like you can code, so why does it matter to you? Just go in later.

In February 1976 Donna Summer's sexually moaning song "Love to Love You Baby" was in the top 10 and all over the radio at night.

People wanted darkness sooner because...well you know...when you lady puts the needle on the record....

bmks270 said:

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How about businesses set their hours to what is good for the employees? And local schools can do the same. Why don't we set different hours instead of changing the time on the clock?

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This.

I have always had this view. Why change the clocks. Schools and businesses can adjust accordingly. Construction always has.

TxTarpon said:

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In February 1976 Donna Summer's sexually moaning song "Love to Love You Baby" was in the top 10 and all over the radio at night.

People wanted darkness sooner because...well you know...when you lady puts the needle on the record....

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schmellba99 said:

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Driving to work is absolutely wasted time, doing it when it is dark and having the afternoon after to o things is the way to go.

Amazing how easy it was to get used to not changing clocks when I lived in AZ.

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Were you alive to experience? It sucked.

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I lived in a place for 6 years that didn't change time. It did not suck.

Just because we change clocks because we have for 100 or whatever years doesn't mean that is the best way, the right way or the only way to do things. Amazing concept, I know.

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bmks270 said:

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How about businesses set their hours to what is good for the employees? And local schools can do the same. Why don't we set different hours instead of changing the time on the clock?

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This.

I have always had this view. Why change the clocks. Schools and businesses can adjust accordingly. Construction always has.

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Then they can adjust backwards as we move it to permanent DST.

Boo Weekley said:

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Shagga said:

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There is a simple solution for those who want more sunlight. Get out of bed earlier, go to work earlier, and tee off earlier. Instead the government is being used to impose an unnatural change on the rest of us, so kids wait for the bus in the dark and people drive to work in the dark. And when dear-old Ben Franklin or the racist Woodrow Wilson was around one could legitimately make a case for the energy savings because the cost of lighting was exponentially higher. Now we have LEDs. The detrimental health effects are also well studied and documented. It's time (pun intended) for DST to go. Only Rubio and the other clowns who sponsored the bill to make this permanent are dumb enough to think its a good idea.

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Like greater vitamin D and less seasonal depression? Trying to think of what detrimental side effects there could be from it not getting dark outside by 5-5:30pm in the winter time.

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No, like the small increase in heart attacks and strokes associated with DST.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Standard time forever!

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This... for parents with school aged kids, it can be difficult to get them up and moving when it is still dark out and hard to get them settled at night when it stays light out so late.

why not just use standard time *******s?

its standard for a ****ing reason.

Once again, congress tries to do something useful and ****s it up by doing the opposite.

END OF RANT

To use some terminology of our liberal friends, Daylight Saving Time is an an unnecessary governmental construct that can just as easily be managed through cultural business practices and individual choice. I am sure the Department of Commerce would save money by ending it.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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Standard time forever!

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Standard time blows.

I was in high school 70 - 74 and don't remember this. Don't remember it at A&M either. They lie!

bmc13 said:

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DST year round

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Stop misgender, er, miszoning Nature's time.

wbt5845 said:

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The argument for universal DST is that people "do" more stuff after work.

That might be true, but there are many who "do" lots of stuff, like running, working out, etc, before work.

If you want more daylight after work, go in earlier. If your company doesn't allow that, learn to code.

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Doesn't work when people give you **** for "leaving early"

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IDaggie06 said:

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barney94 said:

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Fall back 30 minutes in November and call it done forever

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Saw someone else post this in another thread. This is either a joke or I'm not able to figure out how that is possible without screwing up international timezones.

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some countries are on half-hour offsets.

Newfoundland, India, Iran, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Sri Lanka, the Marquesas, as well as parts of Australia use half-hour deviations from standard time, and some nations, such as Nepal, and some provinces, such as the Chatham Islands of New Zealand, use quarter-hour deviations.

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Just shift the damn time zone boundaries.