What are the Russians trying to accomplish?

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Rockdoc
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With seeing the way they are trying to totally flatten everything in sight, schools, hospitals, apartments and housing, business areas, do they plan on trying to inhabit these areas if they eventually "win"? Or are they just trying to punish the general population? I really hope the world is truly paying attention to Putins war and what possibly awaits them.
samurai_science
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Rockdoc said:

With seeing the way they are trying to totally flatten everything in sight, schools, hospitals, apartments and housing, business areas, do they plan on trying to inhabit these areas if they eventually "win"? Or are they just trying to punish the general population? I really hope the world is truly paying attention to Putins war and what possibly awaits them.
Over here, we have democrats and the Marxist lap dogs to worry about.
Rockdoc
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Good point, and I'm short on stingers.
MouthBQ98
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Lots of them don't want to be there but understand the potential consequences of failing their leadership. They need to be looking like they are doing something, so they plod a dead doing something destructive or obeying some order or other without really considering it, just hoping this will all be over soon.

The leadership is invested in it and seems like there is no going back over matters of personal pride and the potential ramifications of failure.
Rockdoc
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I've just seen images of entire residential neighborhoods methodically taken out and flattened. I guess I just find it unbelievable that the world isn't screaming war crimes. I just watched our pentagon spokesman say we weren't ready to call it war crimes when asked about it.
Wabs
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Rockdoc said:

I've just seen images of entire residential neighborhoods methodically taken out and flattened. I guess I just find it unbelievable that the world isn't screaming war crimes. I just watched our pentagon spokesman say we weren't ready to call it war crimes when asked about it.
Nothing is considered a war crime unless an R is President.
RebelE Infantry
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Russia has been very clear about their strategic goals here for years and years now. They will not allow Ukraine to be subsumed into the Western liberal empire, especially NATO. They have done the math and are now imposing their will by force. This is classic Great Powers geopolitics.
Tramp96
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Putin doesn't care about what is or is not a war crime because he knows that there is no scenario where he will be brought to trial.

The Collective
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I'm not sure why the Ukrainians are even resisting - they don't have nukes and F15s.
rgag12
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From what I understand, it's Russian military doctrine.

The Russian army is an artillery based fighting force, one article o read said that their artillery is like 4:1 to what a typical western army would field.

During their campaigns in Chechnya the Russians would level urban areas with their artillery to negate some of the advantages the defenders would have in urban fighting. The result is a lot of civilian casualties and giant cities of rubble. I suspect that's what we will see in Ukraine, so it will get a lot worse.
VaultingChemist
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Ukraine has wheat, and oil and gas resources that Russia wants under their control.
W
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the Russians are conducting siege warfare.

inflict enough misery and the city will eventually surrender

or

if I can't have the city...there won't be anything left for you to have either

ElKabong
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VDH explains what Putin wants in a short video. Basically to put the Soviet empire back together.

AGHouston11
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I Have Spoken said:

I'm not sure why the Ukrainians are even resisting - they don't have nukes and F15s.


Reminds me of when Biden threaten just this on the American citizens ………..
W
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yes, artillery is their strength.

and while anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons are flowing into Ukraine...those don't stop artillery shells
Tramp96
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ElKabong said:

VDH explains what Putin wants in a short video. Basically to put the Soviet empire back together.



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