Key Supplier of Wafers for computer chips Has Sold Out Through 2026

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In normal times markets would adjust between now and 2026 to either create more supply or temper demand through higher prices. Clearly these aren't normal times.
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Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
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MouthBQ98 said:

Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
Here.
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Hell, why not. Back to my professional roots, more or less.
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My company had been on allocation for some time. There are certain key players in the industry, think of a certain California fruit company, that throw their weight around and suck all the air out of the room.
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jagvocate said:

In normal times markets would adjust between now and 2026 to either create more supply or temper demand through higher prices. Clearly these aren't normal times.
Seriously. It's like ammo. My understanding is extremely limited but I can't help but wonder why tf havent more players entered the industry after about a decade of massive shortage?
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Clob94 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
Here.


Do you know a way to get that built and producing in under 5 years? Because people already in the industry don't know.
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Win At Life said:

Clob94 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
Here.


Do you know a way to get that built and producing in under 5 years? Because people already in the industry don't know.


Hire browns to build it, with a 24/7 schedule and timeline bonuses for early and inspected completion. "People already in the industry" don't do that sort of thing, because, reasons.
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Do we need to start backing off some tech in new vehicles and other things?
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Usage of chips/person on this planet is only going up, as well as overall population. It should be a no brainer to build in more capacity now, even if it takes 5 years to come online.
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We went to the moon in the 60's

2022 we as a nation can't do anything and depend on other nations for our technology needs.
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Hmmmm....
September 2021
Japan's SUMCO to raise $1.1 bln from new shares to expand silicon wafer output

Investment opportunity?
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Hope these are still planned
Intel is spending $20 billion to build two new chip plants in Arizona
Samsung plans to build a $17 billion chip plant in Texas
South Korean Chip Maker Planning New Factory in Michigan
Maybe a little late but small rays of hope.
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MEMC used to make wafers in Sherman, TX. They lost to cheaper foreign competition and lack of demand. All the demand for wafers was in Asia because most of the fabs moved to Singapore then China.

This is technology that should not have been allowed to be exported but we want our cheap crap.

Now their is 1 or two companies that make wafers I believe
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Thanks to taxpayer money
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TxTarpon said:

Thanks to taxpayer money
Understand, but rather tax credits to this than Electric cars. Maybe the U.S. could remove the EV subsidy and apply to chips. I know not until hell freezes over, doomed to fund both.
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richardag said:

Posted in a different thread
Hope these are still planned
Intel is spending $20 billion to build two new chip plants in Arizona
Samsung plans to build a $17 billion chip plant in Texas
South Korean Chip Maker Planning New Factory in Michigan
Maybe a little late but small rays of hope.
Samsung building a plant in Ohio as well. So, to earlier posts supply is being ramped up as an outcome of this shortage so that's good.

It's just insane that we abdicated such dependency to other countries up until now.

Hopefully, pharma supply is being re-shored from China as well and we just haven't heard about it yet.
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richardag said:

TxTarpon said:

Thanks to taxpayer money
Understand, but rather tax credits to this than Electric cars. Maybe the U.S. could remove the EV subsidy and apply to chips. I know not until hell freezes over, doomed to fund both.
EV subsidization and promotion needs to be banned as a national security risk until we can source materials not owned by China who currently has a monopoly on battery tech raw materials. And there is really no end in sight for that.
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Seems like an opportunity to build more production capacity.
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richardag said:

Posted in a different thread
Hope these are still planned
Intel is spending $20 billion to build two new chip plants in Arizona
Samsung plans to build a $17 billion chip plant in Texas
South Korean Chip Maker Planning New Factory in Michigan
Maybe a little late but small rays of hope.


How Taylor got that is still a huge mystery around here ...
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Understand that this is a company that sells blank wafers to actual chip-producing companies like TSMC. I supposed it could be argued they are a bit of a commodity, but they are a key part of the supply chain for the chip fabs.

I would think an epi fab would be cheaper to set up, but still not cheap.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
Anyone want to form a silicone cartel and buy up remaining production through 2030, holding it hostage to the highest bidders?
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Cheap flat land, less regulation, access to water rights, lower taxes in some respects, conceited executives would tolerate the degree of prestige of living in Austin.
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Understand, but rather tax credits to this than Electric cars.

How about $27,000,000 of our tax dollars transferred to Samsung as a grant?
A Texas Enterprise Fund (TEF) grant of $27,000,000 has been extended to Samsung for their job creation. LInk

Obviously the state had an extra $27million lying around to give to them.
How about reduce property taxes on the rest of us?

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How Taylor got that is still a huge mystery around here ...
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Marcus Brutus said:

Do we need to start backing off some tech in new vehicles and other things?
You sound like someone who wants to kill the planet!
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BigRobSA said:

Win At Life said:

Clob94 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
Here.


Do you know a way to get that built and producing in under 5 years? Because people already in the industry don't know.


Hire browns to build it, with a 24/7 schedule and timeline bonuses for early and inspected completion. "People already in the industry" don't do that sort of thing, because, reasons.


I hope this is a joke, because this is a great way to pay top dollar for a building to sit empty for 4 years waiting for the high tech fab machines to arrive. So, actually, horrible construction practice.
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silicon wafer shortage (inputs into the fabs)
fab capacity fully booked
wafer test capacity fully booked
certain components used in packaging with serious shortages
package test capacity mostly booked, this can be ramped up with investments on equipment

building new fabs doesn't solve the problem
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Doesn't TI make stuff similar to this at their plants in North Texas and elsewhere?

Why isnt this American company expanding its capability and capacity to bring as much of this stuff back inside the US as is possible?

Anyone on here work for TI or within supply chains to answer this question?
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See my post.

TI does not make the base wafers, packages, or the machines to do manufacture, assembly, or test.

TI owns many facilities to manufacture wafers into semiconductor chips (they also use other companies for this step), test them, package them, and test them again.

It's not all about "we need more wafer fabs" to solve the supply chain issues.
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Win At Life said:

BigRobSA said:

Win At Life said:

Clob94 said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Anyone want to go in on a fab facility?
Here.


Do you know a way to get that built and producing in under 5 years? Because people already in the industry don't know.


Hire browns to build it, with a 24/7 schedule and timeline bonuses for early and inspected completion. "People already in the industry" don't do that sort of thing, because, reasons.


I hope this is a joke, because this is a great way to pay top dollar for a building to sit empty for 4 years waiting for the high tech fab machines to arrive. So, actually, horrible construction practice.


Us browns can't do EVERYTHING, you smart crackers need to step y'all's game up, too!!1
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Fed is still buying bonds AND talking about interest increases AT THE SAME TIME.
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