I haven't seen it on here, but Russia got a sort of concession out of the US with the US agreeing to address Russia's complaints of NATO/US creep in writing. Might just be a technicality and face-saving action but it will be interesting to see what we put in writing.

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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No it wasn't originally part of Russia.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Crimea/History

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It was certainly part of Russia before it was given to Ukraine as a gift during the rein of the Soviet Union. The majority of people in Crimea are ethnic Russians.

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Texas was part of Mexico. If hispanics in Texas want Texas to go back to Mexico, then we are going to hand it over?

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Much ado about nothing.

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Unless you a Ukrainian.

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Still much ado about nothing.

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Agreed.

Hey Texags warmongers, the 80s called and want their foreign policy back

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Quoting Obama on foreign policy is hilarious. 2 years after he said that to Romney in a debate, Russia invaded Crimea and annexed it under his watch. Making him look like a moron. Then he doubled down on his idiocy by giving Iran pallets of free money to fund their nuke and terrorism program.

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Well, it will work this time, because 81 million voted for Biden.
And we don't have a President with mean tweets.

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

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That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

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And we're done here

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I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

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Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

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It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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No it wasn't originally part of Russia.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Crimea/History

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It was certainly part of Russia before it was given to Ukraine as a gift during the rein of the Soviet Union. The majority of people in Crimea are ethnic Russians.

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Texas was part of Mexico. If hispanics in Texas want Texas to go back to Mexico, then we are going to hand it over?

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In this scenario is Texas red or is Texas blue?

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

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That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

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And we're done here

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I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

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Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

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It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

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That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

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And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

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It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

aggiehawg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

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It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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"Basically" state dept wienies confessed they were behind it. Because they'd know. That's how CIA coups work.

This administration is both spineless and despicable. That's a dangerous combination for the free world.**



**I'm counting us as part of the free world at least for now.

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

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Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

aggiehawg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

---

$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

---

It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

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Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

---

It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

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Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

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Google Ukraine coup detat 2014 phone call.

Aggie4Life02 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

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Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

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Google Ukraine coup detat 2014 phone call.

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Good lord…the Nuland phone call had us supporting pro-democracy protestors.

We did not kill the Ukrainian Taxi driver that spawned the Maidan movement.

Nor did the CIA get the EU to set up a free trade agreement with Ukraine that freaked Russia out.

Authoritarian regimes are unstable and susceptible to majority rebellion…not everything is a CIA coup.

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

---

It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

---

Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

---

I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

---

Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

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Google Ukraine coup detat 2014 phone call.

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Good lord…the Nuland phone call had us supporting pro-democracy protestors.

We did not kill the Ukrainian Taxi driver that spawned the Maidan movement.

Nor did the CIA get the EU to set up a free trade agreement with Ukraine that freaked Russia out.

Authoritarian regimes are unstable and susceptible to majority rebellion…not everything is a CIA coup.

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Good Lord! Research the reason the IMF screwed on the loan. Jiust long enough to get Yanokoviuch was gone.

You really like conspiracies

Wait, so you guys think that diplomatic phone calls = a coup?

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

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That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

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And we're done here

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I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

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Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

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It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

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Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

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I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

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Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

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Google Ukraine coup detat 2014 phone call.

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Good lord…the Nuland phone call had us supporting pro-democracy protestors.

We did not kill the Ukrainian Taxi driver that spawned the Maidan movement.

Nor did the CIA get the EU to set up a free trade agreement with Ukraine that freaked Russia out.

Authoritarian regimes are unstable and susceptible to majority rebellion…not everything is a CIA coup.

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Good Lord! Research the reason the IMF screwed on the loan. Jiust long enough to get Yanokoviuch was gone.

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Research the reason why Maidan started and get back to me.

Thanks.

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

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It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

---

Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

---

I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

---

Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

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Google Ukraine coup detat 2014 phone call.

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Good lord…the Nuland phone call had us supporting pro-democracy protestors.

We did not kill the Ukrainian Taxi driver that spawned the Maidan movement.

Nor did the CIA get the EU to set up a free trade agreement with Ukraine that freaked Russia out.

Authoritarian regimes are unstable and susceptible to majority rebellion…not everything is a CIA coup.

---

Good Lord! Research the reason the IMF screwed on the loan. Jiust long enough to get Yanokoviuch was gone.

---

Research the reason why Maidan started and get back to me.

Thanks.

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The neocon denial is strong and the US can do no wrong in their eyes. The US empire is dying and you still want the US to play world police.

Aggie4Life02 said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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aggiehawg said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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K2-HMFIC said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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GAC06 said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

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If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

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$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

---

What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

And we're done here

---

I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.

---

Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.

---

It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.

---

It's conspiracy. You might as well be Sypderman.

---

Never watched the first Trump impeachment hearings in the House, did you?

State Department wienies practically confessed they were behind it with the CIA.

---

I didn't watch it, but certainly paid attention. Can you provide a link?

---

Do you know how to use google? Because it has been discussed a lot.

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I do know how to use it. I searched and found nothing. All I get is crap about the Trump Ukraine phone call. Maybe I'm searching the wrong keywords. Since you are the one that threw that there, why not provide a link? If it's been discussed a lot, then it should be really easy for you to find it.

---

Google Ukraine coup detat 2014 phone call.

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Good lord…the Nuland phone call had us supporting pro-democracy protestors.

We did not kill the Ukrainian Taxi driver that spawned the Maidan movement.

Nor did the CIA get the EU to set up a free trade agreement with Ukraine that freaked Russia out.

Authoritarian regimes are unstable and susceptible to majority rebellion…not everything is a CIA coup.

---

Good Lord! Research the reason the IMF screwed on the loan. Jiust long enough to get Yanokoviuch was gone.

---

Research the reason why Maidan started and get back to me.

Thanks.

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The neocon denial is strong and the US can do no wrong in their eyes. The US empire is dying and you still want the US to play world police.

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Cool strawman bro.

All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

All websites

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All websites

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Good point.

aTmAg said:

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All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

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You mean Biden's own words at the Council of Foreign Affairs. If you have not seen that over 50 times, you know nothing about what Obama/Joe Biden/ Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.

Aggie4Life02 said:

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richardag said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

---

If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

---

$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

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What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

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If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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No it wasn't originally part of Russia.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Crimea/History

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It was certainly part of Russia before it was given to Ukraine as a gift during the rein of the Soviet Union. The majority of people in Crimea are ethnic Russians.

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My mistake, you said originally and my understanding of original differs from what you believe it means.

Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

---

If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

---

$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

---

What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

---

What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

Was it the CIA or Russians who supplied the missiles that killed 283 innocent people when MH17 was shot down? It was the Russians.

What exactly is it that the CIA was alleged to have done that was untoward? Meanwhile, you are totally uncritical of Russian aggression and their literal ex-KGB head of state.

aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

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You mean Biden's own words at the Council of Foreign Affairs. If you have not seen that over 50 times, you know nothing about what Obama/Joe Biden/ Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.

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Link me where he said anything like, "yeah we freaking coup-ed the hell out of Yanukovich. C'mon man!"

The people of Ukraine had every reason in the world to be pissed at Yanukovich. Imagine what would happen if Biden threw Trump in jail right now. Anybody who would then say "oh the people are pissed at Biden due to a KGB plot" would be complete morons.

TriAg2010 said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

---

If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

---

$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

---

What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

Was it the CIA or Russians who supplied the missiles that killed 283 innocent people when MH17 was shot down? It was the Russians.

What exactly is it that the CIA was alleged to have done that was untoward? Meanwhile, you are totally uncritical of Russian aggression and their literal ex-KGB head of state.

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I'm critical of both. The US government, the Russian government, and the Ukraine government are all full of power hungry *******s.

Aggie4Life02 said:

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richardag said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

---

If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

---

$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

---

What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

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No it wasn't originally part of Russia.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Crimea/History

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It was certainly part of Russia before it was given to Ukraine as a gift during the rein of the Soviet Union. The majority of people in Crimea are ethnic Russians.

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Yikes. Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize Putin had a texags account.

aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

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You mean Biden's own words at the Council of Foreign Affairs. If you have not seen that over 50 times, you know nothing about what Obama/Joe Biden/ Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.

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Link me where he said anything like, "yeah we freaking coup-ed the hell out of Yanukovich. C'mon man!"

The people of Ukraine had every reason in the world to be pissed at Yanukovich. Imagine what would happen if Biden threw Trump in jail right now. Anybody who would then say "oh the people are pissed at Biden due to a KGB plot" would be complete morons.

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You are a fan Tymshenko? That's what that is about?

Jan 6th pretrial detainees say, "Hello!"

aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

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You mean Biden's own words at the Council of Foreign Affairs. If you have not seen that over 50 times, you know nothing about what Obama/Joe Biden/ Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.

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Link me where he said anything like, "yeah we freaking coup-ed the hell out of Yanukovich. C'mon man!"

The people of Ukraine had every reason in the world to be pissed at Yanukovich. Imagine what would happen if Biden threw Trump in jail right now. Anybody who would then say "oh the people are pissed at Biden due to a KGB plot" would be complete morons.

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You are a fan Tymshenko? That's what that is about?

Jan 6th pretrial detainees say, "Hello!"

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What nonsense are you talking about now?

aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

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You mean Biden's own words at the Council of Foreign Affairs. If you have not seen that over 50 times, you know nothing about what Obama/Joe Biden/ Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.

---

Link me where he said anything like, "yeah we freaking coup-ed the hell out of Yanukovich. C'mon man!"

The people of Ukraine had every reason in the world to be pissed at Yanukovich. Imagine what would happen if Biden threw Trump in jail right now. Anybody who would then say "oh the people are pissed at Biden due to a KGB plot" would be complete morons.

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You are a fan Tymshenko? That's what that is about?

Jan 6th pretrial detainees say, "Hello!"

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What nonsense are you talking about now?

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LOL. Proves you know nothing,

aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aTmAg said:

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All it takes is a little reading to understand how delusional you (Aggie4Life02) are. The CIA would have to work their magic get the entire EU pissed at Yanukovich too. Or were they also in on the coup? Was basically the entire free world in on this big ass conspiracy theory? Or did the CIA somehow trick Yanukovich into turning Yulia Tymoshenko into a political prisoner so that it would piss of the Ukrainian people and the EU?



You and Sypderman need to stay away from BS websites.

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You mean Biden's own words at the Council of Foreign Affairs. If you have not seen that over 50 times, you know nothing about what Obama/Joe Biden/ Hunter Biden did in Ukraine.

---

Link me where he said anything like, "yeah we freaking coup-ed the hell out of Yanukovich. C'mon man!"

The people of Ukraine had every reason in the world to be pissed at Yanukovich. Imagine what would happen if Biden threw Trump in jail right now. Anybody who would then say "oh the people are pissed at Biden due to a KGB plot" would be complete morons.

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You are a fan Tymshenko? That's what that is about?

Jan 6th pretrial detainees say, "Hello!"

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What nonsense are you talking about now?

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LOL. Proves you know nothing,

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What does? You are the one throwing out assertions without any links. The best you have so far is a phone call, which somehow equates to a "coup" in your view. And then you have to ignore all the other circumstances around those events that had nothing to do with the US.

Stick to lawyering. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about on international relations. And I had no idea you were a Spyderman/Aggie4Life level conspiracy theorist on this crap. Here is a hint for you:

If you agree with Aggie4Life on foreign policy or with Spyderman on anything, then you should take a step back and re-evaluate your education and reading materials.

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TriAg2010 said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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Aggie4Life02 said:

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aTmAg said:

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GAC06 said:

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Again

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That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".

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https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/

Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.

---

If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.

---

$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.

---

What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".

---

If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.

---

What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?

---

That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.

---

Was it the CIA or Russians who supplied the missiles that killed 283 innocent people when MH17 was shot down? It was the Russians.

What exactly is it that the CIA was alleged to have done that was untoward? Meanwhile, you are totally uncritical of Russian aggression and their literal ex-KGB head of state.

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I'm critical of both. The US government, the Russian government, and the Ukraine government are all full of power hungry *******s.

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Show us where you've been critical of Russia. You have routinely excused Russia's actions since this crisis began.

And I guess we're all just equally bad guys? The west doesn't have a moral high-ground versus Russia?

So Biden's game of "just the tip" didn't go over well?

Where have we heard this before?

So weird.
It's like I've heard this before.
Just can't put my finger on it.
Anyway, Biden seems like a stand-up guy. It's not like he colluded with the Ukrainians and admitted it on video. I'm sure there's no quid pro quo, just like the rest of his immaculate political career. https://t.co/71ASB19tET

— Rising serpent 🇺🇸 (@rising_serpent) January 24, 2022