Quoting Obama on foreign policy is hilarious. 2 years after he said that to Romney in a debate, Russia invaded Crimea and annexed it under his watch. Making him look like a moron. Then he doubled down on his idiocy by giving Iran pallets of free money to fund their nuke and terrorism program.deddog said:Agreed.Aggie4Life02 said:Martin Cash said:Unless you a Ukrainian.Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Still much ado about nothing.
Hey Texags warmongers, the 80s called and want their foreign policy back
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aTmAg said:Quoting Obama on foreign policy is hilarious. 2 years after he said that to Romney in a debate, Russia invaded Crimea and annexed it under his watch. Making him look like a moron. Then he doubled down on his idiocy by giving Iran pallets of free money to fund their nuke and terrorism program.deddog said:Agreed.Aggie4Life02 said:Martin Cash said:Unless you a Ukrainian.Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Still much ado about nothing.
Hey Texags warmongers, the 80s called and want their foreign policy back
For neocons, history is selectively ignored.
I ignore nothing.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:Quoting Obama on foreign policy is hilarious. 2 years after he said that to Romney in a debate, Russia invaded Crimea and annexed it under his watch. Making him look like a moron. Then he doubled down on his idiocy by giving Iran pallets of free money to fund their nuke and terrorism program.deddog said:Agreed.Aggie4Life02 said:Martin Cash said:Unless you a Ukrainian.Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Still much ado about nothing.
Hey Texags warmongers, the 80s called and want their foreign policy back
For neocons, history is selectively ignored.
For foreign policy libs, common sense is ignored.
Aggie4Life02 said:TriAg2010 said:Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Sure, because when wars start between nation states, history tells us that they end predictably and without consequence for the bystanders.
There isn't going to be a war.
Please elaborate. If Russian tanks roll into Ukraine, are you going to use some rhetorical backflips to tell us that doesn't constitute war? If you're confident Russia isn't preparing to exercise military force, then what gives you this confidence?
TriAg2010 said:Aggie4Life02 said:TriAg2010 said:Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Sure, because when wars start between nation states, history tells us that they end predictably and without consequence for the bystanders.
There isn't going to be a war.
Please elaborate. If Russian tanks roll into Ukraine, are you going to use some rhetorical backflips to tell us that doesn't constitute war? If you're confident Russia isn't preparing to exercise military force, then what gives you this confidence?
They will not step foot into Ukraine.
Again
That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
I don't think he invades. Putin is epitome of little man syndrome. All the dude wants is respect. Knowing he can scare the West into war is enough.
The risk/reward of invading doesn't make much sense to me.
The risk/reward of invading doesn't make much sense to me.
aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
Does seizing Crimea and the war in Donbas count as more than minor incursions?
Russia is doing everything they'd do if they were really planning a full on war.
aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
Gaw617 said:
All it would have taken would have been to deploy US troops to Ukraine. Instead this dementia diaper wearing President is going to start WWIII because of his cowardice.
He's ready to take action…. after Russia invaded and takes over.
What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
The fact is, you have absolute zero idea what is going to occur. Zero.
You say neocons ignore history? Are you one of them? History PROVES things like this should not be taken lightly. Is there going to be a war? I have no idea. And neither do you. Such assurance like you have on international affairs of this magnitude is literally laughable to me. It's ignorant, and dangerous in some people with power.
aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
fightingfarmer09 said:
They probably saw what has happened to ambassadors the last couple times a Dem has been in charge.
Sure would like to see what strategies our generals have put forward.
You seem to say with with quite a lot of authority. Hope you're right, but the signs are definitely pointing to something evil this way comes.Aggie4Life02 said:There isn't going to be a war.TriAg2010 said:Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Sure, because when wars start between nation states, history tells us that they end predictably and without consequence for the bystanders.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Funky Winkerbean said:
Sure would like to see what strategies our generals have put forward.
Milley is busy drumming out white supremacists.
After the debacle of Astan, I can't wait to see the plan either.
I'm sure that lots of people in this thread, and it already documented, where Biden said that if there was a small incursion, no military action would be taken. The idiot then had to come back on national tv and walk back that asinine statement. What an absolute damn TOOL this man is!
Let me guess, the CIA killed Kennedy too? You get all of your news from Oliver Stone? Or did you get that from Putin press releases?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
Bookmarked. I hope you're right but if there is then it's all because of an imbecile President and Woke (with a capital W) Chiefs of Staff and Pentagon who are focused on the millions and millions of "white supremacists ruling this country in fear."Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
Quoted for truth. President Trump was supposed to embroil us in needless wars and did the opposite. Calling people warmongers that believe in strength to prevent wars is a typical Democratic Party leadership bull**** argument.aTmAg said:Quoting Obama on foreign policy is hilarious. 2 years after he said that to Romney in a debate, Russia invaded Crimea and annexed it under his watch. Making him look like a moron. Then he doubled down on his idiocy by giving Iran pallets of free money to fund their nuke and terrorism program.deddog said:Agreed.Aggie4Life02 said:Still much ado about nothing.Martin Cash said:Unless you a Ukrainian.Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Hey Texags warmongers, the 80s called and want their foreign policy back
edit spelling
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
And we're done here
https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/05/opinions/world-war-iii-was-trending-opinion-weekly-column-galant/index.htmlThe Dirty Sock said:
I was promised trump was going to start WW3
Quote:
In the hours after the Pentagon announced the killing of Iranian Maj. Gen. Qasem Soleimani on Thursday, "World War III" was trending on Twitter. Traffic to the US Selective Service, the agency that would be responsible for any eventual military draft, spiked so high that the website crashed.
markedAggie4Life02 said:TriAg2010 said:Aggie4Life02 said:TriAg2010 said:Aggie4Life02 said:
Much ado about nothing.
Sure, because when wars start between nation states, history tells us that they end predictably and without consequence for the bystanders.
There isn't going to be a war.
Please elaborate. If Russian tanks roll into Ukraine, are you going to use some rhetorical backflips to tell us that doesn't constitute war? If you're confident Russia isn't preparing to exercise military force, then what gives you this confidence?
They will not step foot into Ukraine.
No it wasn't originally part of Russia.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Crimea/History
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
GAC06 said:Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
And we're done here
I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.
Aggie4Life02 said:GAC06 said:Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
And we're done here
I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.
Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.
K2-HMFIC said:Aggie4Life02 said:GAC06 said:Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
And we're done here
I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.
Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.
It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.
You are correct, it did and we were behind it.Aggie4Life02 said:K2-HMFIC said:Aggie4Life02 said:GAC06 said:Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What if the Russians drive tanks into Ukraine and overthrows the Ukrainian government without firing a shot? No biggie?Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
That's what the CIA did in 2014, but with more bloodshed.
And we're done here
I guess you weren't aware of the US organized coup detat in Ukraine in 2014. Neocons don't know history. This isn't conjecture. This is widely acknowledged.
Post's like these are great for identifying conspiratorial anti-Americans.
It's not conspiracy, it definitely happened.
richardag said:No it wasn't originally part of Russia.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:What do you define as war? Do you consider Crimea invasion a war? Just because one side gives up without a fight doesn't make you "right".Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:If you think that is similar to what is happening on the Ukranian/Russia border, then at least you are consistent in your naivete.Aggie4Life02 said:aTmAg said:That didn't count. It was just a "minor incursion".GAC06 said:
Again
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/24/armed-mexican-soldiers-confronted-us-soldiers-on-us-soil/
Kind of like this minor incursion that also amounted to nothing.
$100 bet that there is no Russian/Ukraine war in the next 12 months.
If Ukraine hands over the Crimea to Russia without anyone firing a shot, I certainly wouldn't call that a war. Crimea is originally part of Russia. I doubt it happens, but it's not the end of the world if it does. Most Crimeans would rather be part of Russia anyway.
https://www.britannica.com/place/Crimea/History
It was certainly part of Russia before it was given to Ukraine as a gift during the rein of the Soviet Union. The majority of people in Crimea are ethnic Russians.
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