BMX Bandit said:

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Don't disagree, but the claim was it some how helped him with committee assignments

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It probably did initially, before Cheney partnered with Pelosi on the January 6 inquisition. Once Cheney chose sides with Pelosi and the establishment Dan still backed her. I haven't seen anything were he condemns the anti-American, Soviet style fact creating committee on which Cheney is playing a major role.

BMX Bandit said:

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Huh? The party establishment gave Liz Cheney the boot from leadership. Backing her has hurt, not helped, Crenshaw

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Timeline is important.
That was only after she got the Jan 6 false narrative going with the democrats. McConnell in the Senate and the swamp was wanting this. Yes after she would not stop her 24/7 with Pelosi they took "action" in the house. It was basically meaningless but good PR.

Your timeline makes no sense. You said he got the appointments because he supported Cheney. There was nothing wrong with supporting Cheney until she went against Trump on Jan 6.

When she did that, establishment republicans went against her. Crenshaw did not.

So how can it be he did what establishment wanted in supporting her? Establishment didn't.

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Waffledynamics said:

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itsyourboypookie said:

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You can run

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I'm getting to the point in my life in which that might be something I consider, to be honest. The problem is that I have no idea how to run a campaign nor do I know what I would be getting myself into. I have opinions and convictions, but do not know the position beyond a probably rudimentary level.

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If you're serious about running some day, I can put you in contact with people who know how to run campaigns.

Plan to bring $250k with you and if you don't have a natural fundraising base, double that.

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Everything wrong with American politics in one post

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I agree, but the OP also shows a problem.

Were did Crenshaw get his initial backing?
An endorsement by Michael Berry did not hurt his original campaign. Since he has been elected Crenshaw has refused to return to be interviewed by Berry. What is he afraid of?

If someone actually wants to represent his community, it is very difficult to get exposure. A House Representative is intended to represent his constituents more than a Senator or Executive. It should be a role where a little guy with leadership skills could have a chance to be elected. As it stands, if most of us tried to run a primary campaign against Crenshaw, we would be considered gadflies.

Overall, I have been against term limits, but the current system where you get elected once and then it is nearly impossible to lose the job defeats the purpose of representing your constituents. You end up representing big money donors who fund your re-election campaign. It encourages corruption. Term limits might bring back the ideal of a civic minded person sacrificing a few years of his career for the sake of his neighbors. Lifetime appointments should not be the norm.

The need for great personal wealth or a big money sponsor to be more than a gadfly produces a system of lifetime corrupt politicians rather than representatives of the citizens.

I really liked Crenshaw when he first appeared on the political scene. Lately, I'm getting a McCain-esque, military industrial complex lackey vibe about him...like he's been compromised. I hope I'm wrong...

BMX Bandit said:

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Someone will say he supports red flag laws, even though he never voted for any red flag law and has introduced a bill to ban them.

https://www.govinfo.gov/app/details/BILLS-117hr5417ih

Those same people are happy to support Trump despite "first take the guns, then due process"

Personally, I would support a challenger because Crenshaw seems naive in his belief he can convince media and leftists to "see the light".

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Fair points. Haven't heard anyone else chime in on policies they disagree with or votes he's taken that they don't like. Weird.

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Dora ran no campaign. She was unopposed in primary because democrats thought Emmett was unbeatable. Then the "principled libertarians" mad about the astrodome gave the vote to her. She literally fell into the job with no effort

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Dora did have a qualified primary opponent, at least initially. She was not favored to win, by a long shot. Then that guy (whose name escapes me) dropped out at the last minute due to personal health/family issues, etc., leaving it to Dora to get destroyed by Ed. Then Beto wave and Astrodome votes happened and the rest is history.

She wasn't even supposed to be the democrat nominee.

Dan can say he for gun rights but he tweeted about Red Flag laws and also supported the bill that had red flag laws in it which later true conservatives were able to get dissolved from the bill. Guy is a Rino/liberal on 2A

BurnetAggie99 said:

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Dan can say he for gun rights but he tweeted about Red Flag laws and also supported the bill that had red flag laws in it which later true conservatives were able to get dissolved from the bill. Guy is a Rino/liberal on 2A

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A statement that contains the words "try" and "maybe" is hardly "support." It's a bargaining position, which is completely fine with me. Crenshaw didn't vote for any red flag laws in the end.

A key source of dysfunction in Congress is the near total meltdown of negotiation between parties necessary to advance legislation. It's no wonder why those relations have iced over when constituents will lose their mind that their representative is merely willing to negotiate on a contentious issue.

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You referring to NDAA?

If so, that's not accurate. It was known that provision is being removed before anyone voted.

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All are garbage, in my opinion.

Jameson Ellis: https://ballotpedia.org/Jameson_Ellis

• Seems fake as heck
• Panders too much
• If he is authentic, he's entirely too "Jesus Jesus Jesus" and does not appeal to a more broad, populist right audience

Martin Etwop: https://ballotpedia.org/Martin_Etwop

• Seems entirely too focused on religion
• Is not appealing to anyone but staunchly religious conservatives

Milam Langella: https://milam4congress.com/

• Doesn't even have a complete website less than two months away from the primary.
• His only listed issue on his website is election integrity.

Is this the best anyone can do? If I wasn't so averse to moving to DC and putting up with the rat's nest that is that place, I'd consider running myself. Heck, situations like this make me almost want to. What a joke.

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I'd vote for you waffle. You run.

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Dan can say he for gun rights but he tweeted about Red Flag laws and also supported the bill that had red flag laws in it which later true conservatives were able to get dissolved from the bill. Guy is a Rino/liberal on 2A

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A statement that contains the words "try" and "maybe" is hardly "support." It's a bargaining position, which is completely fine with me. Crenshaw didn't vote for any red flag laws in the end.

A key source of dysfunction in Congress is the near total meltdown of negotiation between parties necessary to advance legislation. It's no wonder why those relations have iced over when constituents will lose their mind that their representative is merely willing to negotiate on a contentious issue.

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True 2A conservatives don't even tweet something like that

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itsyourboypookie said:

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You can run

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I'm getting to the point in my life in which that might be something I consider, to be honest. The problem is that I have no idea how to run a campaign nor do I know what I would be getting myself into. I have opinions and convictions, but do not know the position beyond a probably rudimentary level.

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If you're serious about running some day, I can put you in contact with people who know how to run campaigns.

Plan to bring $250k with you and if you don't have a natural fundraising base, double that.

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That can easily be tripled or quadrupled in returns in the first 2 years, and your "staff" can make out like bandits, also.

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True, but your staff can't feed their family on IOUs and while many professional staffers will decline a couple pay checks for a viable candidate, none will do so for fringe candidates.

You have to prime that pump first, either through a network of proven donors, or by bringing your own cash.

If someone is trying to unseat an incumbent, they will need 10x that much b/c donors will already be committed. Running down ballot is likely more impactful and far cheaper than jumping into a congressional race. Outside of the largest counties, a county job or even a state rep position can still be won on a shoestring budget.

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Define shoestring. I looked into a down ballot county position this go-round but didn't get much past that because I didn't know what to do. But I'm interested in 2024.

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By shoestring I'm talking about a self managed campaign. If you want to run for a vacant Justice of the Peace, County Clerk, Tax Assessor, or school board type position, in non-urban counties you just need $10k for some signs, postage, a dozen shirts, and some new shoes. Then spend 2 hours each evening and all weekend knocking on doors for a few months.

In a prior life I worked numerous campaigns at every level from school board to president. I found my niche on the gray side of the campaigns. Basically, I did the kinds of things we couldn't tell our candidates about but not the illegal kinds of things Nixon's plumbers did.

On a congressional or statewide campaign, you have to be able to hire the right people. Campaign managers and data guys are a dime a dozen but the consultants and fundraisers are who will make or break a campaign. You need to get them onboard early. Unfortunately the best among these guys aren't hired guns and are exclusive to their flavor of politics.

Pete Olson is an interesting case study. Nobody was going to seriously challenge Tom Delay in CD22 but when he went down. Cornyn's chief of staff jumped in.
Olson grew up in the district but hadn't lived there in over 20 years.

The night before he parachuted back into the district, Cornyn's K street guys held a fundraiser and he raised $100k from lobbyists. He had already secured Tom Delay's consultant and fundraiser and had more cash than his competitors but he still had to earn his victory.

He was armed with some glossy photos of himself in dress whites from his short time in the Navy and a beautiful & charismatic wife who used to be a television reporter, but he still needed to raise his name awareness to beat the former Sugar Land mayor and legendary Houston television anchor Sylvan Rodriguez's widow who was also a former Houston city councilman in the primary.

Olson joined the Rotary Club, attended every politically connected charity in the district, and knocked on doors 7 days a week for the 15 months before the general election.

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BurnetAggie99 said:

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Dan can say he for gun rights but he tweeted about Red Flag laws and also supported the bill that had red flag laws in it which later true conservatives were able to get dissolved from the bill. Guy is a Rino/liberal on 2A

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A statement that contains the words "try" and "maybe" is hardly "support." It's a bargaining position, which is completely fine with me. Crenshaw didn't vote for any red flag laws in the end.

A key source of dysfunction in Congress is the near total meltdown of negotiation between parties necessary to advance legislation. It's no wonder why those relations have iced over when constituents will lose their mind that their representative is merely willing to negotiate on a contentious issue.

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True 2A conservatives don't even tweet something like that

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I thought we were supposed to ignore what people tweet and only judge them by their actions?

Crenshaw lectured on how a politician should tweet and say things - his tweets can stand on their own. He actually has quite a few that are pretty telling.

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100% agree

I posted this on another thread but it would be useful here too. For those who are against him, I would like you to point out those votes you were against. I haven't found a single one. I am alarmed by some of the things Crenshaw has said, but those who are against Crenshaw remind me of the Never Trumpers - you seem to care more about what he said than what he actually did.

VOTING RECORD

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• If he is authentic, he's entirely too "Jesus Jesus Jesus" and does not appeal to a more broad, populist right audience

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I laughed at that.
Good way to word it.

he did not object to the PA and AZ electors.

OP hates the law of the Lord.

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I thought we were supposed to ignore what people tweet and only judge them by their actions?

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When their tweets are about Rosie O'Donnell, judge by actions. When their tweets are about policy advancement, judge by the content.

Waffledynamics said:

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itsyourboypookie said:

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You can run

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I'm getting to the point in my life in which that might be something I consider, to be honest. The problem is that I have no idea how to run a campaign nor do I know what I would be getting myself into. I have opinions and convictions, but do not know the position beyond a probably rudimentary level.

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I can help set you up with the people who can get you there. Just need a name and email and I can make a warm intro. Now is not the best time to get started, as It is usually right after a political season (Dec. this year) when I believe you want to start this process.

Anyone else looking at this, get in contact with this guy and he can help and wants to help. He has helped others

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-mirani-8a372142/

jagvocate said:

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Waffledynamics said:

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itsyourboypookie said:

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You can run

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I'm getting to the point in my life in which that might be something I consider, to be honest. The problem is that I have no idea how to run a campaign nor do I know what I would be getting myself into. I have opinions and convictions, but do not know the position beyond a probably rudimentary level.

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If you're serious about running some day, I can put you in contact with people who know how to run campaigns.

Plan to bring $250k with you and if you don't have a natural fundraising base, double that.

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Everything wrong with American politics in one post

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I disagree. Founding fathers only wanted land owners and producers to have voting rights in this country and to represent us. What do you think that looks like in today's day and age?

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I posted this on another thread but it would be useful here too. For those who are against him, I would like you to point out those votes you were against. I haven't found a single one. I am alarmed by some of the things Crenshaw has said, but those who are against Crenshaw remind me of the Never Trumpers - you seem to care more about what he said than what he actually did.

VOTING RECORD

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HR 550 on 11/30/21.

it's a shame Creighton isn't ready to run for U.S. rep. I think he could take Crenshaw in a primary