No Mas Bacon For California!

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12:01p, 12/17/21
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A top meatpacker is halting sales of some pork products in California, in the first sign of fallout from the state's new law demanding more space on farms for the animals.

Seaboard Foods, the second-largest U.S. pig producer and fourth-biggest pork processor, confirmed the decision Friday in an emailed statement, blaming the state's Proposition 12 rule that goes into effect on Jan. 1.
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California voters approved the regulation, which advocates say will provide more humane conditions by allowing farm-raised pigs enough room to turn around. The move is a reaction to the widespread use of cages known as gestation crates that constrict the animals' movement.

Hog producers and pork producers have largely opposed the rule, arguing that costly renovations to farms will raise meat prices, at a time when they were already soaring and contributing to the highest food inflation in years.
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12:03p, 12/17/21
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Love it!

More pork for those of us that grew up sorting pigs and throwing castrated pig nuts at each other as kids.
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12:04p, 12/17/21
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They just don't understand how it's harvested, that's all.

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12:05p, 12/17/21
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Yeah these state specific laws need to start hurting Kalifornia instead of affecting the other 49 states. One net positive from their shrinking population.
Trump will fix it.
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In reply to AgResearch • 12:06p, 12/17/21
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Now there's a visual....
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1:34p, 12/17/21
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Now imagine if the big O&G companies would cease selling gas in Kalifornia due to the extra-stringent environmental requirements. Tears would be flowing like Niagara Falls.
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1:35p, 12/17/21
Bacon has become freaking expensive.
I paid 10.99 a pound for the store made bacon at HyVee.

My son is lucky he is cute and I love him.
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1:45p, 12/17/21
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Problem is Cali is some of the most fertile land in the world. But libs dgaf if they **** up wberyones livelihoods and consumer choices, and cause death and famine somewhere else as long as their media masters pander to their workness and make them feel superior.
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In reply to Sarge 91 • 1:46p, 12/17/21
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Sarge 91 said:
Now imagine if the big O&G companies would cease selling gas in Kalifornia due to the extra-stringent environmental requirements. Tears would be flowing like Niagara Falls.
I've wished for this.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 1:47p, 12/17/21
Please halt all food to Cali. Please.
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1:48p, 12/17/21
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Elections are when people find out what politicians stand for, and politicians find out what people will fall for.
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1:50p, 12/17/21
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It's as if they are trying to run off low-income individuals to cause red states to swing blue..... On top of that, They are creating laws and protections of their elections to prevent the takeover of their old states as they fail even with insane policies that are clearly BSC.....

How did Newsome not get recalled?
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1:50p, 12/17/21
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I hope that the price of meat triples in California tomorrow. Being Stupid needs to be Painful
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In reply to rocky the dog • 1:52p, 12/17/21
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You rock, Rocky
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In reply to Tanya 93 • 1:52p, 12/17/21
Tanya 93 said:
Bacon has become freaking expensive.
I paid 10.99 a pound for the store made bacon at HyVee.

My son is lucky he is cute and I love him.
Time in the 60s we did without bacon because it was too high. Same with sugar and milk. Powederd milk on rice crispies made them soggy as hell.
But we worked through it!
Wife loves it because i dont beatch about food.
This will hit the well fed "poor" and they are going to whine (its what they do)
Wont be chomping on Ribs for them , and they will be mad!
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1:54p, 12/17/21
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Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.
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In reply to FBG_Ag78 • 1:55p, 12/17/21
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 1:56p, 12/17/21
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Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be excercised.


"Unintended consequences"

Libs don't understand the concept

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1:57p, 12/17/21
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Unfortunately, there will be a sizable number of idiots in this state that will be happy about this outcome
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In reply to Owlagdad • 1:59p, 12/17/21
Owlagdad said:
Tanya 93 said:
Bacon has become freaking expensive.
I paid 10.99 a pound for the store made bacon at HyVee.

My son is lucky he is cute and I love him.
Time in the 60s we did without bacon because it was too high. Same with sugar and milk. Powederd milk on rice crispies made them soggy as hell.
But we worked through it!
Wife loves it because i dont beatch about food.
This will hit the well fed "poor" and they are going to whine (its what they do)
Wont be chomping on Ribs for them , and they will be mad!


To be honest, I do not know what good bacon is.
I hate it.

So, thru trial and error, and apparently buying this disgusting cheap bacon, I learned what to buy.

He's cute. He asks for so little. So I buy their bacon.
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In reply to rocky the dog • 2:01p, 12/17/21
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 2:02p, 12/17/21
Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.
I work in the industry. Blind eyes are not turned to poor conditions from a macro level. It would cost producers money if poor conditions went rampant. Individual farms have issues for any number of reasons (typically **** employees), but if you have poor conditions for the animals, you'll create a stressing factor which will in turn create opportunities for disease and poor FCR (Feed Conversion Ratio (Amount of feed required to produce a pound of body weight)). Production within confined quarters is all based on keeping FCR low and getting the animals to that point as quickly as possible w/o issue. CA wrote a proposition for a problem that didn't exist and now they will pay for it.
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 2:05p, 12/17/21
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Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that and be willing to pay the accordingly higher meat prices. If that's the trade off we want to make as a society, fine.

The problem is the vast majority of these people who want to give better conditions to the pigs would never actually vote for it if they thought they'd have to pay $10 instead of $5 for bacon. They're voting for something because of feelz with no awareness of the consequence, and then they go whine about capitalism when the consequence hits them in the wallet.
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In reply to akm91 • 2:05p, 12/17/21
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2:06p, 12/17/21
Tell those Cali folks, Nancy just sat down to big ole plate of bacon and eggs. With wine of course.
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2:09p, 12/17/21
I think I grabbed a couple of raw pieces and took them to bait my hook with, and mother whipped my ass for it.
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In reply to Gigemags382 • 2:13p, 12/17/21
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Gigemags382 said:
Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to think that and be willing to pay the accordingly higher meat prices. If that's the trade off we want to make as a society, fine.

The problem is the vast majority of these people who want to give better conditions to the pigs would never actually vote for it if they thought they'd have to pay $10 instead of $5 for bacon. They're voting for something because of feelz with no awareness of the consequence, and then they go whine about capitalism when the consequence hits them in the wallet.
The REAL underlying problem is that Kalifornia and states like them that create cost increasing mandates don't really feel the pain because national companies tend to distribute that cost across their customer base. Meaning everyone pays for Kalifornia's fantastical whims.

The pork industry is doing the right thing and others should follow this example. Make those who want these policies suffer the consequences exclusively.
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2:16p, 12/17/21
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Best Bacon Ever

You can find it at COSTCO

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In reply to techno-ag • 2:21p, 12/17/21
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Yeah these state specific laws need to start hurting Kalifornia instead of affecting the other 49 states. One net positive from their shrinking population.
Problems are fungibility and bottle necks. Those who don't retrofit their hog houses will compete for a smaller market through the same packing plants. Just like "free range" and "organic" require unique infrastructure, this requirement will cost farmers more and as the market forces react to a new fracture there will be rebalancing pains.
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 2:28p, 12/17/21
Irish 2.0 said:
Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.
I work in the industry. Blind eyes are not turned to poor conditions from a macro level. It would cost producers money if poor conditions went rampant. Individual farms have issues for any number of reasons (typically **** employees), but if you have poor conditions for the animals, you'll create a stressing factor which will in turn create opportunities for disease and poor FCR (Feed Conversion Ratio (Amount of feed required to produce a pound of body weight)). Production within confined quarters is all based on keeping FCR low and getting the animals to that point as quickly as possible w/o issue. CA wrote a proposition for a problem that didn't exist and now they will pay for it.
Thanks for the information,always nice to hear from people in the industry.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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In reply to Mr President Elect • 2:36p, 12/17/21
Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.
Hello - they are raised to be killed for our food. who cares how they live
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In reply to Carnwellag2 • 2:39p, 12/17/21
Carnwellag2 said:
Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.
Hello - they are raised to be killed for our food. who cares how they live
The producers do in the name of economics.
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Irish 2.0 said:
Carnwellag2 said:
Mr President Elect said:
Unpopular opinion, but I don't completely hate the new regulation. I haven't read through the details or anything so maybe I am just being naive, but it is really easy to turn a blind eye to some of the poor conditions we subject animals to. I do the carnivore diet quite often so I don't want to see higher meat prices, but some responsibility should be exercised.
Hello - they are raised to be killed for our food. who cares how they live
The producers do in the name of economics.
Probably an English major.
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In reply to peacedude • 2:43p, 12/17/21
peacedude said:
They just don't understand how it's harvested, that's all.

Homer: Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Lisa, honey, are you saying you're never going to eat any animal again? What about bacon?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Ham?
Lisa: No.
Homer: Pork chops?
Lisa: Dad! Those all come from the same animal!
Homer: [Chuckles] Yeah, right Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.

They ARE wonderful, magical animals. Who doesn't like all of the above? I'm making pinto beans right now with a pound and a half of bacon in the crockpot. The bestest and mostest tastiest food EVAR!

Dang, almost forgot.

FJB!
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In reply to Irish 2.0 • 2:45p, 12/17/21
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Stupid games yield stupid prizes...


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Wonder why just some pork products?

California should look at the farm conditions for some pork byproducts
  • Gelatin used in a wide variety of products(gelatin is used in certain beer, wines and fruit juices to absorb the natural cloudiness of the beverages.)
  • Skincare products(Everyday daily hygiene products also contain pork glycerin, including toothpaste, shampoo, soaps and lotions.)
  • Paint brushes(For practical uses, pig hair is used for bristles in inexpensive paintbrushes and is processed and added to some fertilizers.) wonder if Hunter uses these?
  • Glycerine used in foods and numerous other products.
I think we should let the Gov know.
https://www.farmcreditofvirginias.com/sites/default/files/Everything%20But%20the%20Oink%20Updated%202019.pdf
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