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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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Amazon has routinely removed products from their site for various reasons. That actually aligns more with the right and their takes on private business. What does the "left" or alleged book burning have to do with a private company making a legal business decision.

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I don't see anything posted that denies Amazon has the right to remove books. Only comparisons to book burning.

You are disingenuous, deflecting and quite wrong.

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I don't recall saying the poster was alluding to that.

• Thanks for making my point, no poster did. You did by implying other posters inferred Amazon had no right to make this decision.

I explained how this private business decision is closer to the rights principles. This isn't an example of book burning. The disconnect from lots of issues these days come from using terminology wrong. Book burning would be removing all publications and prints from the nation and actually burning the books. Removing a product that violates a company's rules is simple a private business making a legal business decision.

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Now you're deflecting further.

No one said it WAS ACTUAL BOOK BURNING, they made the comparison.

Go away Keith, no one here likes you.

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Is it possible, only for a second, that both were real?

What if, just a thought, they basically shadow banned it or basically made it where it couldn't be found except for a perfect search or via a direct link but not publicized or promoted AND when the author called it out and that got a bit of traction they then pulled that filter and allowed it to be easily found again?

Is that even that far fetched anymore?

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Well OP received the email in his inbox this morning, posted it here by 10:11 a.m., and by 10:40 a.m. a poster pointed out the book was easily found on Amazon.

So you're thinking Amazon shadow banned the book, and after the author emailed hundreds of people the behemoth leapt into action to remove the filter just hours after OP received the notice from the author?

Another possibility is that the author of a book called Deep State thought it might help drum up sales if potential buyers thought Big Tech was trying to keep his book from them. It's what they don't want you to know!

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This isn't a new book that the author would be trying to pump out and get sales up for. It came out last May...it is however the first book in a series and I'd bet someone found other books in the series and was trying to find #1 and that's how this "anomaly" was discovered...

Also the OP stated that he tried looking for it before he posted here and could not find it.

So yea, id guess what you stated is EXACTLY what occurred, you think a company the size of amazon doesn't track authors they support? For instance this author in general seems like his only sales method or at least main sales method is Amazon, his personal website was difficult to find and all of it directed back to amazon....which means the original email probably was immediately sent to them as well.

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sleepybeagle said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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richardag said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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... This has been an example of people simply blaming all of life's ills on the mystical left.

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yes... the "mystical left".

When you have to show "papers" to prove you're not apart of an "unwashed" group to participate in commerce, perhaps then it won't be so mystical?

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Like identifications, which have been around for quite some time? Or licenses, which you need for things like driving? I'm not familiar with any vaccine mandate that says you can't participate in e-commerce of not vaccinated.

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Or, maybe, voting?

sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

Welcome to the technocracy.

Stop relying on big tech. There is a market for this content, and for the time being, these tech giants are safe from consequences.

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Welcome to the technocracy.

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Would you like the government to force Amazon to sell the book?

Ghost Amazon

Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

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No, to deny service to someone based on race would be illegal. What Amazon is doing is not illegal. Would you like it to be? Would you like the government to force businesses to sell books?

Coach_Fran said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

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No, to deny service to someone based on race would be illegal. What Amazon is doing is not illegal. Would you like it to be? Would you like the government to force businesses to sell books?

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Upon what basis in your opinion might it be deniable?

You very specifically referenced the "free market," and were dismissive of whether or not they should be "forced" to sell a product or service.

MiniShrike said:

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MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

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No, to deny service to someone based on race would be illegal. What Amazon is doing is not illegal. Would you like it to be? Would you like the government to force businesses to sell books?

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Upon what basis in your opinion might it be deniable?

You very specifically referenced the "free market," and were dismissive of whether or not they should be "forced" to sell a product or service.

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You're complaining because they aren't selling it. Would you like the government to force Amazon to sell it?

Coach_Fran said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

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No, to deny service to someone based on race would be illegal. What Amazon is doing is not illegal. Would you like it to be? Would you like the government to force businesses to sell books?

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Upon what basis in your opinion might it be deniable?

You very specifically referenced the "free market," and were dismissive of whether or not they should be "forced" to sell a product or service.

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You're complaining because they aren't selling it. Would you like the government to force Amazon to sell it?

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No, stop with the canard.

Answer the question.

(They are selling it, I've read it, and it was at best barely tolerable)

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Stat Monitor Repairman said:

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Welcome to the technocracy.

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Would you like the government to force Amazon to sell the book?

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Nope.

am I the only one that sees his book as the first entry?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=deep+state&rh=n%3A283155&dc&crid=1BBVNW9W13XT7&qid=1642124399&rnid=2941120011&sprefix=deep+state%2Caps%2C218&ref=sr_nr_n_6

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Coach_Fran said:

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MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

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No, to deny service to someone based on race would be illegal. What Amazon is doing is not illegal. Would you like it to be? Would you like the government to force businesses to sell books?

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Upon what basis in your opinion might it be deniable?

You very specifically referenced the "free market," and were dismissive of whether or not they should be "forced" to sell a product or service.

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You're complaining because they aren't selling it. Would you like the government to force Amazon to sell it?

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No, stop with the canard.

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am I the only one that sees his book as the first entry?

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=deep+state&rh=n%3A283155&dc&crid=1BBVNW9W13XT7&qid=1642124399&rnid=2941120011&sprefix=deep+state%2Caps%2C218&ref=sr_nr_n_6

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I think we found our Deep State operative.

Oh look

Carlos loves the idea of of businesses being the tool of government oppression as part of an unholy alliance between big business and big government! He also supports the state making HC decisions for you and the state taking control of your local elections!

Word on the street is he's also a fan of certain amateur Austrian artist too. BIG fan of his work.

MindofCarlos said:

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YouBet said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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Amazon has routinely removed products from their site for various reasons. That actually aligns more with the right and their takes on private business. What does the "left" or alleged book burning have to do with a private company making a legal business decision.

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This is called gas lighting.

See Big Tech and their habit of suppressing conservative voices.

But you know all of this already.

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What basis are you coming from where you allege "Big Tech and their habit of suppressing conservative voices"? Do you have any statistics of something definitive to support your allegation. As far as I know Big tech like any private business or organization has rules to use their product or service that are agreed to by users on the front end. Violating their rules is subject to removal.

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Except if a homo wants to force you to bake a cake and decorate it with lgbt propaganda…..even though you are a Christian and do not want to be forced into participating in that expressions…

See the hypocrisy here from the left?

Coach_Fran said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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MiniShrike said:

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Coach_Fran said:

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sleepybeagle said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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This is actually the free market. Unless you think companies should be forced to sell books?

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So,

if a company doesn't want to sell, say, electricity, heating oil or gasoline to Asians, it's all good in your book?

Interesting.

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No, to deny service to someone based on race would be illegal. What Amazon is doing is not illegal. Would you like it to be? Would you like the government to force businesses to sell books?

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Upon what basis in your opinion might it be deniable?

You very specifically referenced the "free market," and were dismissive of whether or not they should be "forced" to sell a product or service.

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You're complaining because they aren't selling it. Would you like the government to force Amazon to sell it?

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No, stop with the canard.

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Look, I get that you might not be bright enough to understand that this is an old thread, that your strawman arguments failed immediately, that I thought the book was better suited as a coaster, that you can't engage in unedited discourse, and that you can't defend your inference that a company can do anything they'd like as long as it's "Legal."

But please enjoy your next use of the c/lol emoji. It's telling.

MindofCarlos said:

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YouBet said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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YouBet said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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Amazon has routinely removed products from their site for various reasons. That actually aligns more with the right and their takes on private business. What does the "left" or alleged book burning have to do with a private company making a legal business decision.

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This is called gas lighting.

See Big Tech and their habit of suppressing conservative voices.

But you know all of this already.

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What basis are you coming from where you allege "Big Tech and their habit of suppressing conservative voices"? Do you have any statistics of something definitive to support your allegation. As far as I know Big tech like any private business or organization has rules to use their product or service that are agreed to by users on the front end. Violating their rules is subject to removal.

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You serious Clark?

The numerous examples that we have like this one and from Twitter where only conservatives are suppressed.

This isn't even up for debate.

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So your answer is you don't have any objective basis? Twitter has suspended and banned users across all political parties factually speaking. The OP isn't an example of suppressing any political party or even the left allegedly doing so. It's an example of a private entity whose board is made up of individuals of both parties. You're fine to have that opinion, I was more so asking if there was anything substantial or objective to support your opinion.

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The twitter terms of service enshrines leftists opinions in their rules, such as "misgendering is hate speech". Guaranteeing that conservatives are banned more often.

Pathetic lies, we can all see the bias of big tech.

I think someone just found a great way to promote his book...

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YouBet said:

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MindofCarlos said:

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Modern book burning by the left.

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Amazon has routinely removed products from their site for various reasons. That actually aligns more with the right and their takes on private business. What does the "left" or alleged book burning have to do with a private company making a legal business decision.

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This is called gas lighting.

See Big Tech and their habit of suppressing conservative voices.

But you know all of this already.

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What basis are you coming from where you allege "Big Tech and their habit of suppressing conservative voices"? Do you have any statistics of something definitive to support your allegation. As far as I know Big tech like any private business or organization has rules to use their product or service that are agreed to by users on the front end. Violating their rules is subject to removal.

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There's no way you're being serious. Have you been living under a rock? Seriously, WTF?

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Modern book burning by the left.

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Amazon has routinely removed products from their site for various reasons. That actually aligns more with the right and their takes on private business. What does the "left" or alleged book burning have to do with a private company making a legal business decision.

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Are you tacitly admitting that the left doesn't think that private businesses should be able to make their own legal decisions free of government influence? I think that's not the point you're trying to make although that is true.
I do think you're trying to troll and derail OP's post with poorly reasoned distractions of your own.
Any free-thinking, clear-minded person in our country sees a collective effort between big tech, mainstream media and the left-wing political machine to censor right-wing messages. For example, Amazon de-platformed parler in early 2021 because conservatives were beginning to migrate there after twitter banned Trump.
Please tell me you haven't noticed a concerted effort between big tech, msm and the dems to limit conservative messaging? I will know you have purposefully blinded yourself.

He's a trash troll, Shanked Punt by another name.

He's 100% troll with a single goal of getting people banned by intentionally being obtuse and 100% partisan. No amount of reasoning, facts, nor logic will get him to agree with any concept that favors R over L.

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Modern book burning by the left.

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Amazon has routinely removed products from their site for various reasons. That actually aligns more with the right and their takes on private business. What does the "left" or alleged book burning have to do with a private company making a legal business decision.

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Thank you for the laugh. I needed that today. You are nothing if not predictable. Comrade Carlos,
you should really change your name to MindofDmitri Shepilov