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If offensive weapons are going to be supplied now, i wonder if that means Europe has determined Ukraine could fall or if Ukraine has a chance to finish off the invasion.

Probably means none of that

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What better way to see if your weapons / systems work than by supplying them to Ukraine on live targets in a active combat?

What happens with Russian nuclear arsenal if Putin is removed? That has the potential to be just as bad.

45-70Ag said:

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What happens with Russian nuclear arsenal if Putin is removed? That has the potential to be just as bad.

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I would hope the jailed politician that's probably won the elections against Putin would be the new leader. But my guess is there'd be several months of African/South American style coups amongst the military leaders

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I have some questions. If anyone can answer, I would greatly appreciate it.

1. I saw a tweet on the previous page that Kiev is surrounded and the attack will begin tonight. I thought Kiev was surrounded days ago? Haven't there been announcements along the lines of "tonight's the night!" for the last three days?

2. If Putin is killed/deposed, who becomes the new leader? Will this spark a battle within Russia for control?

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Medvedev was his chosen successor/puppet when Putin was not the nominal President. I would presume that unless he puts distance between himself and Putin, then he would likely be taken out alongside him.

Q2 who knows.

Q1 Russians reached Kiev like 2 days ago, but it was not surrounded. With more assets are coming in, but you can't mass evac a city of 3 million.

Not sure how accurate the article is but read something today that stated Putin has a tremendous security and intelligence apparatus that basically controls the military and is very much a Stalin era type setup. Article basically said these organizations have the power to control all of Russia and protect Putin from any effort to remove him.

No clue how accurate it is

for you avi geeks An225 was destroyed. Worlds largest Transporter

"The world against Putin" is becoming an unstoppable force.

I have a sense, perhaps wrongly, that the war is fast approaching an extraordinary inflection point that will result in either Putin taking horrific, irrational actions or him being removed/overthrown as President.

Is this Ukraine or Russia equipment

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TRM said:

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⚡️#Ukrainian media report a serious fire near School 52 in #Kharkiv pic.twitter.com/ZdTf2Dwg29

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) February 27, 2022

❗️Media reports a powerful explosion in Cherkasy pic.twitter.com/coHUHntRnH

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) February 27, 2022

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Whatever that was, that was HUGE!!

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Thermobaric's finally being used? If so this could escalate quickly!

Russian units are not fighting as BTGs. They’re not doing combined arms warfare. They’re driving down roads in small detachments, pushing recon and VDV units forward. Tanks without infantry. It’s not going well for them because this isn’t how they organize and fight (more later). https://t.co/5AibDoyUmL

— Michael Kofman (@KofmanMichael) February 27, 2022

Someone said an ammo depot.

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Maybe a dumb question but one I'm curious to know the answer to

Does all this assistance in the form of weapons, ammo, fuel, food, etc come with no strings attached or are these deals the Ukraines worked out that have something coming back in return?

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Can you put a price on not risking American troops and embarrassing Putin at the same time?

Folks are taking the right lessons about Ukraine’s military from this, but a number of the wrong ones about the Russian military. This operation looks terrible, and it should, because it’s assumptions were nuts, but this isn’t the Russian mil fighting as it would against NATO.

— Michael Kofman (@KofmanMichael) February 27, 2022

⚡️Russian Chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, reportedly fired today. Gerasimov was very highly regarded, the most important military leader of the past generation, & the architect of today’s Russian Armed Forces. He’s served as the head of the military since 2012. pic.twitter.com/zlEVbCPvZ1

— Alexander S. Vindman (@AVindman) February 27, 2022

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Trying to figure out if the Russian procured the tractor or Ukrainians stole it.

There is also a part 2: pic.twitter.com/pogTYrxLdR

— al koj (@koj_al) February 27, 2022

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The tractor has a Z on it so assume that is a Russian driving it.

All 3

All three actually but I'm focused on the info, if true, not the source

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GAC06 said:

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⚡️Russian Chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov, reportedly fired today. Gerasimov was very highly regarded, the most important military leader of the past generation, & the architect of today’s Russian Armed Forces. He’s served as the head of the military since 2012. pic.twitter.com/zlEVbCPvZ1

— Alexander S. Vindman (@AVindman) February 27, 2022

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And that sob vindman is in one of the pics with him.

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I've seen the story of Putin canning this guy is being walked back. There's been no corroboration yet.

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#BREAKING: EU member states to provide Ukraine with fighter jets @JosepBorrellF says

— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 27, 2022

Not just defensive weapons anymore.

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There's some Russian aircraft they could provide that Ukrainians could operate but my bet is drones.

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This.

Poland, Romania and Slovakia still operate some Russian fighter jets. Hungary has Russian attack helicopter as well.

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Poland is already set to phase out their remaining MiG-29s soon. Makes a lot of sense that's what they would offer.

Latest updates on fight for Mariupol, nuke threat, giant explosion, etc. WAR

RUSSIAN CENTRAL BANK ORDERS MARKET PLAYERS TO REJECT FOREIGN CLIENTS' BIDS TO SELL RUSSIAN SECURITIES FROM 0400 GMT ON FEB 28 — CENTRAL BANK DOCUMENT SEEN BY REUTERS

— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 27, 2022

Are his pants down? Lol

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pic.twitter.com/zaxkCFi6wy

— ЖК Рускій іді нахуй (@miaulodetz) February 27, 2022

I kind of want to know the full story here

But in some ways maybe it's better if we don't know.

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Translation for caption on picture is "Marauder from Nikolaev"

In Nikolaev, local residents caught a marauder and tied him to a pillory, taking off his pants beforehand. This publication reports News-N on Sunday, February 27th.


"The incident took place in the Kazarsky microdistrict. There, an enterprising citizen decided to take advantage of the lack of employees and lighting in the store and "buy" something there without money. The looter was unlucky he was seen by local residents. They called the police to the place," the report says.

The arriving patrol found the marauder without pants and taped to a pole with tape.

Recall that "sleeping groups" entered the territory of Ukraine in each settlement, which, having rented apartments, were waiting for the "H" time. Suspicious persons who have rented apartments since December last year are asked to report to law enforcement officers.



Looks like some things may be a bit lost in translation but still no story as to why his pants were down.

If true, this is a huge leap in messaging from the Russian Orthodox Church.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/02/27/head-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-patriarch-kirill-opponents-in-ukraine-evil-forces/?amp

Someone may now fully believe God is on their side.

Ag In Ok said:

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If true, this is a huge leap in messaging from the Russian Orthodox Church.

https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/02/27/head-of-the-russian-orthodox-church-patriarch-kirill-opponents-in-ukraine-evil-forces/?amp

Someone may now fully believe God is on their side.

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Not really. Putin has been working with them for awhile to help control messaging. He's had them bless weapons, tanks, etc.

Turkish Secret Service CL600 TR010 en route to Rzeszow #Poland. pic.twitter.com/8JAlyHxjKn

— Manu Gómez (@GDarkconrad) February 27, 2022

TChaney said:

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In Nikolaev, local residents caught a marauder and tied him to a pillory, taking off his pants beforehand. This publication reports News-N on Sunday, February 27th.


"The incident took place in the Kazarsky microdistrict. There, an enterprising citizen decided to take advantage of the lack of employees and lighting in the store and "buy" something there without money. The looter was unlucky he was seen by local residents. They called the police to the place," the report says.

The arriving patrol found the marauder without pants and taped to a pole with tape.

Recall that "sleeping groups" entered the territory of Ukraine in each settlement, which, having rented apartments, were waiting for the "H" time. Suspicious persons who have rented apartments since December last year are asked to report to law enforcement officers.



Looks like some things may be a bit lost in translation but still no story as to why his pants were down.

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Found the original and translated using Google into Ukrainian

In Nikolaev citizens "sentenced" the marauding citizen to "a pillar of shame" - from it took off trousers and tied to an electric support.

Locals told Novosti-N about this.

The incident took place in the Kazarsky district. There, an enterprising citizen decided to take advantage of the lack of workers and lighting in the store and "buy" something there without money. The marauder was unlucky - he was seen by locals. They called the police.

However, while waiting for the patrol, they handed down a sentence "according to wartime" - they took off the marauder's pants and fastened them to the pole with film.

We will remind, in Nikolaev for fight against looters create municipal guard.

45-70Ag said:

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If offensive weapons are going to be supplied now, i wonder if that means Europe has determined Ukraine could fall or if Ukraine has a chance to finish off the invasion.

Probably means none of that

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Drag it out as long as possible to weaken Russia, until Putin is overthrown from embarrassment, or Ukraine falls, or if Putin escalates in retaliation to western proxy war and sanctions, which may be increased use of force in Ukraine or WW3.

Putin rapidly becoming the most hated man on the planet. Justin Trudeau writing him a thank you note.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10557167/World-rages-Putins-war-Hundreds-thousands-protestors-streets-Berlin-Madrid.html

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World rages at Putin's war: Hundreds of thousands of protestors take to streets of London, Berlin, Madrid and South Korea in anger at invasion of Ukraine

• Demonstrators were seen gathering in Germany, Iraq, Japan, Australia, Spain, Lithuania, South Korea, Turkey
• Protests also sprung up across the UK, in Oxford, London and Peterborough, as people demand the war end
• People waved yellow and blue Ukrainian flags to show their support during protests at the Brandenburg Gate
• More gathered in Madrid holding flags and banners that accused Putin of genocide and of being akin to Hitler
• Ukrainians living in northern Iraq held an anti-war rally on the doorstep of the United Nation's office in Erbil
• Pope Francis denounced the 'diabolical and perverse logic' of launching war in Ukraine in the Vatican Sunday

By LAUREN LEWIS and STEPHEN WYNN-DAVIES FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 09:12 EST, 27 February 2022 | UPDATED: 17:20 EST, 27 February 2022

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Thread. Info comes from a very senior former ministry of defense official.

Belarus will commit air and ground forces to Russia’s war on Ukraine, in the next 24 hours.

The most pressing threat is a large military column headed toward Kyiv from the Northwest.

— Alexander S. Vindman (@AVindman) February 27, 2022