How far are you able to go to not get vaccinated?

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In reply to Sully Dog • 5:43p, 9/18/21
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According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Jesus this is dumb. Let me help you here. Not everyone's risk is the same. Each person's risk is age dependent and co-morbidities. Infact most people who die with COVID are over the age of 60 with 2 or more co-morbidities.
So the risk of a 30 y/o in good health is not the same as the risk of someone who is 80 with COPD, cancer and hypertension.

If you would follow the like I provided from John Hopkins it will help you estimate your risk.
Did I refute any of that? Reading isn't your strong suit is it?
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In reply to Gator92 • 5:44p, 9/18/21
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TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Know one person that died from a lightning strike. Also saw 2 people in a boat struck and killed by lightning on Lake Fork.

I don't know anyone that has died from covid.
My old boss had his house struck by lightening twice!
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5:46p, 9/18/21
The seatbelt analogy is weird. They don't take your car or not treat you if you get in an accident whilst unbuckled. There's also not a dismissed database of hundreds of thousands of adverse events caused by wearing one. There are also no safer and more effective alternatives, unlike w/ the vax.

Every time I hear a jacovid witness completely ignore the superior role of natural immunity and then use hell fire and brimstone tactics to convince me to take something that has no impact on transmission yet could also potentially (though RaReLy) inflame my heart, all the while completely oblivious of the unprecedented level of global tyranny happening concurrently, I will go that much further.
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In reply to Teslag • 5:48p, 9/18/21
Salute The Marines said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/


Do you go generally play around outside during electrical storms? Or do you take precautions?
Yeah, I also don't run around maskless in a COVID ward.


The point you fail to understand is there is also risk in taking the vaccine. Ideally, if my risk of taking the vaccine is lower than my risk of dying of COVID I will choose to take the vaccine. Since the vaccine is new, and there is no longer term data AND my risk of dying from COVID is damn near zero I choose not to get the vaccine till I can make a better educated decision.

If I were 60 with multiple co-morbidities then my risk assessment equation would be different. It's not, so I'm not vaccinated.

You would think that the "follow the science" crowd could understand this simple risk calculation.
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In reply to YouBet • 5:51p, 9/18/21
YouBet said:
Gator92 said:
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Know one person that died from a lightning strike. Also saw 2 people in a boat struck and killed by lightning on Lake Fork.

I don't know anyone that has died from covid.
My old boss had his house struck by lightening twice!
Did he die?
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 5:52p, 9/18/21
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Jesus this is dumb. Let me help you here. Not everyone's risk is the same. Each person's risk is age dependent and co-morbidities. Infact most people who die with COVID are over the age of 60 with 2 or more co-morbidities.
So the risk of a 30 y/o in good health is not the same as the risk of someone who is 80 with COPD, cancer and hypertension.

If you would follow the like I provided from John Hopkins it will help you estimate your risk.
Did I refute any of that? Reading isn't your strong suit is it?
Apparently so. I did mis-read your response. I thought you were implying that lots of people had died of covid but not a lot had died of lightening. Mia Culpa
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In reply to Sully Dog • 5:56p, 9/18/21
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Sully Dog said:
YouBet said:
Gator92 said:
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Know one person that died from a lightning strike. Also saw 2 people in a boat struck and killed by lightning on Lake Fork.

I don't know anyone that has died from covid.
My old boss had his house struck by lightening twice!
Did he die?
No but he lost his HVAC units one time and his TVs the other.
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In reply to Sully Dog • 5:56p, 9/18/21
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Sully Dog said:
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Jesus this is dumb. Let me help you here. Not everyone's risk is the same. Each person's risk is age dependent and co-morbidities. Infact most people who die with COVID are over the age of 60 with 2 or more co-morbidities.
So the risk of a 30 y/o in good health is not the same as the risk of someone who is 80 with COPD, cancer and hypertension.

If you would follow the like I provided from John Hopkins it will help you estimate your risk.
Did I refute any of that? Reading isn't your strong suit is it?
Apparently so. I did mis-read your response.
No worries. I'm just thinking of the 3-4 people I've heard about from friends and family that died of covid. I haven't heard of anyone mentioned by anyone I know dying from a lightning strike, although I know someone who was hit twice.
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Where did our cult members go?
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In reply to SoundsAboutRight • 7:08p, 9/18/21
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cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.


The seatbelt will just trap you so you burn to death.
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In reply to Teslag • 7:37p, 9/18/21
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Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
I live life carelessly Bo Darville. Why else would I have volunteered to deploy to Iraq 3 times with Blackwater?

I get to decide what risks are acceptable to me, not the government.


I've also deployed to Iraq. Spare me the histrionics.
And barebacked some Romanians.

I guess Covid is a bridge too far. We all have our limits.
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SoupNazi2001 said:
The_Fox said:
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
I live life carelessly Bo Darville. Why else would I have volunteered to deploy to Iraq 3 times with Blackwater?

I get to decide what risks are acceptable to me, not the government.


Wait Salute the Marines is Bo? That makes a lot more sense.
frankly, it's been pretty obvious
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 8:42p, 9/18/21
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.


Three cousins of mine died in the 70s from lightning. True story. White side of my family.
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In reply to The_Fox • 8:54p, 9/18/21
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The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.
Weren't you a cop? Ever write a seat belt ticket?
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I drove 400 miles roundtrip to get 2 shots.
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In reply to Sully Dog • 12:36a, 9/19/21
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
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In reply to FamousAgg • 7:28p, 9/19/21
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KorbinDallas said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.


The seatbelt will just trap you so you burn to death.

Or drown.

I don't wear a seatbelt for fear of drowning or burning to death. Surely blunt force trauma would be less painful/quicker. F anyone who supports government mandating seatbelts or shots in the arm.
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In reply to Teslag • 7:42p, 9/19/21
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Salute The Marines said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/


Do you go generally play around outside during electrical storms? Or do you take precautions?

And given the precautions people take to not be electrocuted (e.g. not playing golf during a thunderstorm), the odds are STILL more likely he'll die from a lightning strike than COVID given his demographic.

Re-read that.

Then stop saying stupid things.
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In reply to HollywoodBQ • 7:51p, 9/19/21
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I was thinking that this poster, and his obsessive level of posting, reminded me of the Bo Darville/Bayside Tiger character who basically didn't want us to leave our house during the start of covid and then had some sort of Come to Jesus moment where he was then bleeding all over the board lamenting his trusting of the "experts", but seems like he has his new thing to obsess over until reality slaps him in the face again...
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In reply to Mulberrywildman • 8:06p, 9/19/21
Yes the virus is the eternal damnation he must save humanity from at all costs and the vaccine is the holy water. Fauci is his high priest. He is here to spread the gospel and convert. All other paths to health are freedom are heresy.
Also the kind of soldier who would show up proud on orders to forcefully inject his countrymen with a mystery cocktail while ironically bragging about how's he's been overseas fighting for our freedoms lol
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cevans_40 said:
KorbinDallas said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.


The seatbelt will just trap you so you burn to death.

Or drown.

I don't wear a seatbelt for fear of drowning or burning to death. Surely blunt force trauma would be less painful/quicker. F anyone who supports government mandating seatbelts or shots in the arm.
Lol pretty sure the burn to death post was sarcasm mocking the anti seatbelt doofuses. But maybe you're being sarcastic too and I missed it…hopefully.
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In reply to Teslag • 8:54p, 9/19/21
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Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

I take pride in knowing that my "battle" with COVID that was only 3 days of fatigue gives people like you the vapes.
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It's a silly little piece of paper, I'm not an anti vaxxer but I'd make my own card if i was.
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Salute The Marines said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/


Do you go generally play around outside during electrical storms? Or do you take precautions?


More people need to completely ignore you like I do.. guys perma Ignore is the only way to go with this cat salute the marines .. lives under a rock to keep away from. Lightning and is the guy driving around with 4 mask on !
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I'm probably the most fervent anti masker on this site
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Hey dude .. I ignored you long ago so I can't read your post

More posters need to follow my ignore .. they will thank me later
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In reply to SoundsAboutRight • 10:09p, 9/19/21
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SoundsAboutRight said:

People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.

They don't insert the seat belt into your body. It's taken off after every ride.

The seat belt does not interact with your immune system, cells, organs, platelets, RNA... The seat belt manufacturer can be sued if the seat belt is faulty... There are seat belt exemptions for some cars.

You might occasionally get a traffic ticket and pay a small fine as a consequence. You don't lose your job, or blocked access to food, banking, society, new employment, etc.

These are not comparable principles, in logic or legally.

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In reply to Teslag • 10:26p, 9/19/21
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I'm probably the most fervent anti masker on this site
That line forms behind me.
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Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
Not sure of your age or marital status, however, my Mother in-law would be perfect for you.

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OneProudAg said:
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
Not sure of your age or marital status, however, my Mother in-law would be perfect for you.



I honestly didn't know there were people who didn't wear seatbelts
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10:48p, 9/19/21
I fully encourage people to not wear seatbelts.

It increases my chances of actually getting social security some day, and also increases the number of organs available for transplant.
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I will be willing to lose my job and have already informed my employer of this. Just eating for the hammer to fall.
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