How far are you able to go to not get vaccinated?

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4:21p, 9/18/21
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Question is title. I'm sure some of us are in better positions than others to take on the losses that would go with refusing to take the jab. Curious to hear who is where on how far they are able to take it. Asking as someone who got J&J due to my risk level being elevated above folks that are the same weight and age as me.
I'm not sure if people genuinely believe someone is going to say, "Wow, if some people say I'm a moron for not believing this, it clearly must be true."

It's not much a persuasive argument. It really just sounds like a bunch of miniature dachshunds barking because the first one one barked when it thought it heard something.
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4:26p, 9/18/21
Is this english?
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4:28p, 9/18/21
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Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.
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In reply to Teslag • 4:36p, 9/18/21
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Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.


It must suck being a Coronabro. A virus that lives rent free in your head
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In reply to Teslag • 4:41p, 9/18/21
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
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In reply to Teslag • 4:41p, 9/18/21
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Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.
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In reply to Sully Dog • 4:47p, 9/18/21
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Is this english?
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In reply to Sully Dog • 4:52p, 9/18/21
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Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
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In reply to cevans_40 • 4:52p, 9/18/21
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
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In reply to Sully Dog • 4:53p, 9/18/21
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Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/


Do you go generally play around outside during electrical storms? Or do you take precautions?
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In reply to Sully Dog • 5:01p, 9/18/21
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Yep, more risky to drive a car.


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In reply to PlaneCrashGuy • 5:03p, 9/18/21
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My guess the federal mandate, which nobody should support, isn't going to ever happen.

Also you should probably sober up before posting.
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In reply to SoundsAboutRight • 5:03p, 9/18/21
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.


Yeah, seat belt laws for adults are bull*****
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 5:04p, 9/18/21
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TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Know one person that died from a lightning strike. Also saw 2 people in a boat struck and killed by lightning on Lake Fork.

I don't know anyone that has died from covid.
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In reply to SoundsAboutRight • 5:04p, 9/18/21
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
You have a greater chance of dying in a car wreck wearing a seat belt everyday than from the virus.
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In reply to Teslag • 5:06p, 9/18/21
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

And some people are willing to get the vaccine and still die from covid or the vaccine itself. Life is like a box of chocolates.
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In reply to aggie813 • 5:14p, 9/18/21
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aggie813 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

And some people are willing to get the vaccine and still die from covid or the vaccine itself. Life is like a box of chocolates.
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5:18p, 9/18/21
"Able" and "willing" are differentiated very harshly for many people. I would have had to give up practicing medicine as the cost of refusing the vax.
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In reply to sharpdressedman • 5:19p, 9/18/21
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You would lose your license?
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In reply to Sully Dog • 5:20p, 9/18/21
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/


You need to never drive, and never go outside. Maybe line your shower and all walls with padding just to be sure.
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In reply to SoundsAboutRight • 5:21p, 9/18/21
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.
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5:22p, 9/18/21
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I'll actually answer the question. I would probably start to get uncomfortable after a couple years of unemployment if my job forced a mandate. I 'm not there so I can't really say how far I'd be willing to go.
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In reply to End Of Message • 5:24p, 9/18/21
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You would lose your license?
I would lose all hospital privileges; admissions, surgeries, consultation visits, etc. My license would become little more than a wall ornament.
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In reply to sharpdressedman • 5:26p, 9/18/21
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Is that across the board for all hospitals/facilities? Honest question.
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In reply to The_Fox • 5:31p, 9/18/21
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The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
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In reply to Teslag • 5:33p, 9/18/21
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For a conservative, you sure do have several opinions as to how other ms should live their lives.
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In reply to End Of Message • 5:34p, 9/18/21
Pinche Abogado said:
Is that across the board for all hospitals/facilities? Honest question.
Yes. Also true for medical first responders and hospital/clinic staff members with patient contact.
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In reply to Teslag • 5:35p, 9/18/21
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
I live life carelessly Bo Darville. Why else would I have volunteered to deploy to Iraq 3 times with Blackwater?

I get to decide what risks are acceptable to me, not the government.
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In reply to End Of Message • 5:35p, 9/18/21
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Pinche Abogado said:
For a conservative, you sure do have several opinions as to how other ms should live their lives.


A conservative can have an opinion about someone else's life. Where I draw the line is using government to force a change in their behavior.
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In reply to The_Fox • 5:36p, 9/18/21
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The_Fox said:
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
I live life carelessly Bo Darville. Why else would I have volunteered to deploy to Iraq 3 times with Blackwater?

I get to decide what risks are acceptable to me, not the government.


I've also deployed to Iraq. Spare me the histrionics.
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In reply to sharpdressedman • 5:36p, 9/18/21
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Did the medical board make that decision?
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In reply to End Of Message • 5:41p, 9/18/21
Pinche Abogado said:
Did the medical board make that decision?
Management of the medical service providing entities, with heavy influence from federal/municipal authorities and powerful activists.
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In reply to Teslag • 5:41p, 9/18/21
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
Salute The Marines said:
The_Fox said:
SoundsAboutRight said:
cevans_40 said:
Salute The Marines said:
Some people were willing to even get covid and die to avoid it. Hard to top that one.

You should really stop driving. It could totally kill you.


People reacted the exact same way when seatbelts were mandated to be fair.
I do not ever wear a seat belt when in an automobile. I get to determine the risks that I am willing to take.


This is just stupid and careless
I live life carelessly Bo Darville. Why else would I have volunteered to deploy to Iraq 3 times with Blackwater?

I get to decide what risks are acceptable to me, not the government.


I've also deployed to Iraq. Spare me the histrionics.
Whatever you say leg.
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In reply to TexAgs91 • 5:41p, 9/18/21
TexAgs91 said:
Sully Dog said:
According to John Hopkins University my chances of dying of COVID are 0.2 to 0.8/1,000,000. Which is less than the odds of dying from a lightening strike. So remind me again why I need to rush out and get a new vaccine?

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/
Strange. I haven't heard of that many people dying in a lightning strike which seems also interesting enough for acquaintances to mention if it happened to someone they knew.
Jesus this is dumb. Let me help you here. Not everyone's risk is the same. Each person's risk is age dependent and co-morbidities. Infact most people who die with COVID are over the age of 60 with 2 or more co-morbidities.
So the risk of a 30 y/o in good health is not the same as the risk of someone who is 80 with COPD, cancer and hypertension.

If you would follow the like I provided from John Hopkins it will help you estimate your risk.
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