IMO, it is criminally negligent behavior.

This administrations forcefully promulgates its agenda "by any means necessary." The Dems told us long ago that they have no limits on the enforcement of their plans and programs. They play to win at any cost.

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Because they don't want people getting better. Same reason the FDA is tamping down on the ivermectin and the HQ. These people are sick they are actually killing people. They do not want this control to end.

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Why did the FDA grant EUA to this treatment?

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Why is the FDA speaking out on ivermectin, a drug they approved for human use in 1996, proven to treat malaria, and won the Nobel prize in 2015 and has done well with Covid. They too are trying to push the "only horse medicine" bull*****

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Rule of thumb these days: When 21st C Science conflicts with 20th C Science, choose the older one.

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Because they don't want people getting better. Same reason the FDA is tamping down on the ivermectin and the HQ. These people are sick they are actually killing people. They do not want this control to end.

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Why did the FDA grant EUA to this treatment?

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Why is the FDA speaking out on ivermectin, a drug they approved for human use in 1996, proven to treat malaria, and won the Nobel prize in 2015 and has done well with Covid. They too are trying to push the "only horse medicine" bull*****

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If ivermectin is the only treatment you'll accept, do you care that monoclonal antibodies are being rationed?

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IMO, it is criminally negligent behavior.

This administrations forcefully promulgates its agenda "by any means necessary." The Dems told us long ago that they have no limits on the enforcement of their plans and programs. They play to win at any cost.

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Do you expect Republicans to do anything to stop them?

From Steve Toth... state rep.

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BREAKING -
Texas Department of State Health Services has reinstated the Montgomery county allocation for monoclonal antibodies. We are back up and running at full speed.
Keep in mind,

Texas still does not have all that it needs. There is still a crack down and Texas still needs more than it can get. In this case, that means that it's being drawn from sites that are not using it as efficiently as we are in Montgomery county.

Praise God!

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https://www.facebook.com/SteveTothTX/videos/1548311825505460

If I'm Texas I would get a Federal judge in Texas to issue an injunction or stay or whatever it is called to halt the order.

THEN, critical step here, order 29 million doses from the company that makes the treatment. Enough for every legal resident of the Great State of Texas!!!!

Problem SOLVED!

Texas and Florida are very inconvenient for the globalists and Chinese

Don't we have medical manufacturers here in Texas who could make our own? We don't need the feds telling us how to do anything.

Voting has consequences. Shame on you participating with the 82MM*. This crap is on your ass.

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F*** Joe Biden!

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**** the democrats!

This criminal behavior makes me ill.
Biden and the dems are ******* pieces of ****!
They have truly declared war on the state of Texas.

Genius Dim strategy: let the Reds die off by denying life-saving treatments and flood the state with Browns to replace them. Plot twist: the Browns aren't required to have anything preventing them from being virus carriers. In time the Browns turn Blue.

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That could be. Or, there could be a limited amount of antibody treatments available and they may be trying to get them where they are most needed, or prevent hoarding. I have no idea.

There's a nonzero chance that Montgomery County could have just been 'robbed' by Harris or Travis county.

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No. It's most likely you are completely wrong, goaltending for a terrible administration that desperately needs COVID to stay an issue, amyet contjnue spamming thread after thread with no facts.

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The numbers I linked were for September 14-21 and the policy changed on September 13.

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Again, still not enough time. The Montgomery county judge just found about in the last day or two. I'm not sure what's hard about this part for you (unless you just like to argue).

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I don't think Zobel just likes to argue any more than the rest of us. We're all guilty of that, its why we're here instead of answering emails.

I have been kind of mystified at the totality of Zobel's COVID responses. They are deeply founded in wanting really good data before making a decision (which is great), being educated about what the formal authority groups have to say (also great), and have strong convictions about decisions based upon the data (also fine). But there's always a handwavy-ness when its brought up just how much politics has put their thumb on the scale of the data and how that makes people cautious. The sum political weight of people, health organizations, hospital executives, government agencies, media, and the president are unfounded objections.

Zobel understands data, but people make human decisions. Data isn't everything. I think they've admitted to being an engineer, which if that is the case - their symptoms are incurable and we can only hope to treat aggressively.

By the way, I've really enjoyed Zobel's posts on this board and the religion board. I think they add a different backboard to the way this board does fly off the handle sometimes. Zobel could totally be right here. There could be a shortage and that Harris County could be robbing Montgomery of medicine. There also could not be a shortage at all and we all smell a political play.

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That's all fine and well. He seems like a good dude. But he's an engineer. He is only driven by data he can touch and see. He doesn't understand how things work in the real world of business, finance, and politics. He reads a peer reviewed paper and that becomes the gospel to him. He doesn't realize that the peers who wrote and reveiwed it can be just as biased and crooked as the opposition to it. But that's never taken into account. Once it's words on a screen with a government seal of approval, it's gospel and he spans the board until any other voice is stamped out. It's infuriating. There is no nuance with him.

That's why he had to change his username. He was all over this board with his facts that supported two weeks to flatten the curve. He argued with people who understood how shutting down the economy would be catastrophic for our economy. He was wrong then. He didn't have any data and peer reviewed papers to go off of because we'd never done something so stupid before. But here we are.

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The numbers I linked were for September 14-21 and the policy changed on September 13.

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Again, still not enough time. The Montgomery county judge just found about in the last day or two. I'm not sure what's hard about this part for you (unless you just like to argue).

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I don't think Zobel just likes to argue any more than the rest of us. We're all guilty of that, its why we're here instead of answering emails.

I have been kind of mystified at the totality of Zobel's COVID responses. They are deeply founded in wanting really good data before making a decision (which is great), being educated about what the formal authority groups have to say (also great), and have strong convictions about decisions based upon the data (also fine). But there's always a handwavy-ness when its brought up just how much politics has put their thumb on the scale of the data and how that makes people cautious. The sum political weight of people, health organizations, hospital executives, government agencies, media, and the president are unfounded objections.

Zobel understands data, but people make human decisions. Data isn't everything. I think they've admitted to being an engineer, which if that is the case - their symptoms are incurable and we can only hope to treat aggressively.

By the way, I've really enjoyed Zobel's posts on this board and the religion board. I think they add a different backboard to the way this board does fly off the handle sometimes. Zobel could totally be right here. There could be a shortage and that Harris County could be robbing Montgomery of medicine. There also could not be a shortage at all and we all smell a political play.

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That's all fine and well. He seems like a good dude. But he's an engineer. He is only driven by data he can touch and see. He doesn't understand how things work in the real world of business, finance, and politics. He reads a peer reviewed paper and that becomes the gospel to him. He doesn't realize that the peers who wrote and reveiwed it can be just as biased and crooked as the opposition to it. But that's never taken into account. Once it's words on a screen with a government seal of approval, it's gospel and he spans the board until any other voice is stamped out. It's infuriating. There is no nuance with him.

That's why he had to change his username. He was all over this board with his facts that supported two weeks to flatten the curve. He argued with people who understood how shutting down the economy would be catastrophic for our economy. He was wrong then. He didn't have any data and peer reviewed papers to go off of because we'd never done something so stupid before. But here we are.

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What was it?

Texas will be the last free place on earth. The Last Stand takes place here.

God bless Texas!

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Central planning is never good.

I'm not familiar with the Defense Production Act, but a quick web search found this from https://www.investopedia.com/defense-production-act-dpa-5187806

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The DPA has been reauthorized by Congress 53 times, most recently in 2018, and is scheduled to expire in 2025. Over the years, the biggest change in the law has been an expansion in the definition of "national defense" to encompass energy production, critical infrastructure development, emergency preparedness and recovery, counterterrorism activities, and public health actions, as well as measures to ensure the continuity of government.2

Perhaps not surprisingly, the Department of Defense is the most active user of priority orders under the act, placing some 300,000 contracts each year. By comparison, the Department of Homeland Security secured fewer than 400 orders in 2019, the last year the data was made available, with 60% of those supporting preparedness for hurricanes and other disasters.3

Meanwhileuntil the COVID-19 pandemic led to an executive order by President Donald Trump on March 23, 2020, to prevent price gouging and hoarding of medical suppliesthe allocation power provided by the law hadn't been exercised since the end of the Cold War.

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Though the key power of requiring companies to prioritize contractsalong with the seldom-used ability to allocate resourceswas initially granted to the president, Congress has since delegated those authorities to six cabinet officials. In addition to the secretary of defense, the other department heads with prioritization authority involving their relevant portfolios include the secretaries of agriculture, energy, health and human services, transportation, and commerce.

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In other words, it's an act of Congress passed in 1950 to make sure that the government has first priority on anything they want. This is by no means compatible with a Capitalistic society and it needs to end.

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You voted for this and would happily do so again. Gtfoh.

K2.

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I don't attribute these actions to revenge, evil, etc. In my opinion, the same cast of political characters are benefitting financially off of every vaccine used. The govt pays the manufacturers and somehow our corrupt politicians in this Admin are receiving kickbacks - it could possibly be as simple as they were given a heads-up and bought options at the correct time. Whatever the scam, it seems obvious they have a vested interest in as many vaccines being sold as possible. Cures hurt these people.

So get the vaccine multiple times and keep wearing a cloth mask. Think about it.

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Bingo!!!! Always follow the money.

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No. It's most likely you are completely wrong, goaltending for a terrible administration that desperately needs COVID to stay an issue, amyet contjnue spamming thread after thread with no facts.

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Wait, sorry, hold on. Facts?

You mean like the information from the website that lists the number of doses going to each state that shows that Florida and Texas are getting the most on an absolute and per infection basis? And says that they're distributing to the state level, who then make local decisions?

The irony of this is when I said "There's a nonzero chance that Montgomery County could have just been 'robbed' by Harris or Travis county" the county judge posted that "Texas Department of State Health Services has reinstated the Montgomery county allocation for monoclonal antibodies." And THEN you talk about being completely wrong.

Who has more facts here? I'd like to see them. What have you contributed, fact-wise?

The information at hand doesn't line up with the Biden administration punishing red states.

It's asinine to say that this is goaltending for an administration I don't support and didn't vote for. Have some intellectual honesty.

Actually, one of the things I've tried to convey to people like you is that you shouldn't read a peer review paper and take it as gospel, because even when you ignore bias and fraud there's still a range of results possible based on statistical probability alone. Bias and fraud goes on top of that, so you need to be MUCH more skeptical of EVERYTHING you read. And this isn't just for research but for news, especially news on your social media feed with no sources.

I spent five minutes looking at the website and it really doesn't look like "the narrative" on the first page makes any sense at all. Does that mean it isn't true? No. I've said as much. But there are people who are absolutely convinced this is criminal negligence or trying to kill people in red states. Be better.

The fact that I'm being shouted down as a conservative and a lifelong republican for saying "hey guys maybe before we accuse the administration of trying to murder people in red states we should check and figure out why they're sending more medicine to red states than anywhere else no matter how you look at it" is ridiculous. The fact that you're putting this forward as evidence that I have no nuance is so ironic it hurts.

For the record - I changed my username because people on this forum starting harassing me in PMs. I haven't made any effort to hide who I am, many people on this site have met me and my family, but I saw no reason to make it easier for someone doxx me.

I think this is a great analysis and agree with it completely. Zobel is the guy that you really like but he frustrates the **** out of you sometimes.

Found part of the issue. Your US government is taking it for the DoD.

https://www.contractpharma.com/contents/view_breaking-news/2021-09-15/us-govt-to-purchase-additional-doses-of-regen-cov-antibody-cocktail/

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Regeneron Pharmaceuticals, Inc.announced that the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the Department of Defense (DOD) will purchase 1.4 million additional doses of REGEN-COV (casirivimab and imdevimab).

Regeneron expects to begin delivering the additional REGEN-COV doses to the U.S. government in September, with the vast majority delivered in 4Q21.

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Funny how it's good enough for the federal government but we are going to limit it for other citizens.

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I have a bad habit of only posting when I disagree with something. When it comes to f16 in general silence is tacit approval. But I'm trying to be as hard on ideas that I agree with as those that I don't.

This thread is this post par excellence
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/too-good-to-check-a-play-in-three

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Halfway through. I like this line. Good article so far.

Then I remembered the Law Of Rationalist Irony: the smugger you feel about having caught a bias in someone else, the more likely you are falling victim to that bias right now, in whatever way would be most embarrassing.

Who was he?