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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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good grief!

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Tell us more about the flu vaccine again.

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You don't know what a vaccine is, so why would I bother. Your original response is idiotic!

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You claimed the flu vaccine as a vaccine and thought it was 100% effective.

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I never claimed it was 100% effective. The reason we want everyone to take it is to reach herd immunity, to protect those that it doesn't work for.


The CDC changed the definition here to fit what this chemical that you worship does.

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The flu vaccines aren't given to create herd immunity since the flu is endemic. That's strike 2.

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wow. You really dont understand any of this, do you?

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Your lack of self-awareness is mind blowing.

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Dude, you are clueless on this matter. Herd immunity is a thing with influenza in the US each year! A major goal of encouraging everyone to get the shot is to get there! Being endemic is irrelevant!

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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Marxism isn't new

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aggiehawg said:

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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So by your definition, the technology of vaccines is getting weaker?

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It is not a "vaccine" at all, not in the true medical sense, that is. It was misnamed from the get-go.

So instead of calling it a "therapeutic" they change the definition, I guess. And then they wonder why people are confused.

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You're smarter than this.

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Yes I am pretty smart. That doesn't mean I never get confused when presented with conflicting and contradictory information from the same party over time. In this case it is the CDC confusing me.

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A therapeutic is one that is given post infection at the onset or duration of disease. No covid vaccine is used for this, nor is it acknowledged by anyone.

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So a "gene therapy" is not a "therapeutic"? Weird.

Lower the bar so failure doesn't seem like failure.

I have no doubt they change this on purpose to give themselves a little CYA, but I don't think the definitions are necessarily different. I think the first definition still leaves the possibility that the agent does not provide immunity. Like saying a beta blocker is designed to lower blood pressure but that doesn't guarantee that every person that takes it will have their blood pressure lowered.

gig em 02 said:

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aggiehawg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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So by your definition, the technology of vaccines is getting weaker?

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It is not a "vaccine" at all, not in the true medical sense, that is. It was misnamed from the get-go.

So instead of calling it a "therapeutic" they change the definition, I guess. And then they wonder why people are confused.

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You're smarter than this.

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Yes I am pretty smart. That doesn't mean I never get confused when presented with conflicting and contradictory information from the same party over time. In this case it is the CDC confusing me.

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A therapeutic is one that is given post infection at the onset or duration of disease. No covid vaccine is used for this, nor is it acknowledged by anyone.

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So a "gene therapy" is not a "therapeutic"? Weird.

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Is this one of those "the covid vaccines are gene therapy" gibberish posts.

Cassius said:

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Cassius said:

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Cassius said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Cassius said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Cassius said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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good grief!

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Tell us more about the flu vaccine again.

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You don't know what a vaccine is, so why would I bother. Your original response is idiotic!

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You claimed the flu vaccine as a vaccine and thought it was 100% effective.

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I never claimed it was 100% effective. The reason we want everyone to take it is to reach herd immunity, to protect those that it doesn't work for.


The CDC changed the definition here to fit what this chemical that you worship does.

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The flu vaccines aren't given to create herd immunity since the flu is endemic. That's strike 2.

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wow. You really dont understand any of this, do you?

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Your lack of self-awareness is mind blowing.

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Dude, you are clueless on this matter. Herd immunity is a thing with influenza in the US each year! A major goal of encouraging everyone to get the shot is to get there! Being endemic is irrelevant!

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Simply stunning.

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I have no doubt they change this on purpose to give themselves a little CYA, but I don't think the definitions are necessarily different. I think the first definition still leaves the possibility that the agent does not provide immunity. Like saying a beta blocker is designed to lower blood pressure but that doesn't guarantee that every person that takes it will have their blood pressure lowered.

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Shhhhh, we have to pretend the Big Pharma cabal is out to get our money. Or bill gates is microchipping us. I can't keep up depending on the day.

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I have no doubt they change this on purpose to give themselves a little CYA, but I don't think the definitions are necessarily different. I think the first definition still leaves the possibility that the agent does not provide immunity. Like saying a beta blocker is designed to lower blood pressure but that doesn't guarantee that every person that takes it will have their blood pressure lowered.

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Shhhhh, we have to pretend the Big Pharma cabal is out to get our money. Or bill gates is microchipping us. I can't keep up depending on the day.

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Why do you exert so much time and energy defending a group that has demonstrably lied to the American public for political and who knows what other purposes?

The CDC or Big Pharma?


I loathe the CDC. I admire BIg Pharma. Like "Big Oil" and "Big food" they have saved more lives and done more for humanity than any government or religion in history.

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The CDC or Big Pharma?

Both


I loathe the CDC. I admire BIg Pharma. Like "Big Oil" and "Big food" they have saved more lives and done more for humanity than any government or religion in history.

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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So by your definition, the technology of vaccines is getting weaker?

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It is not a "vaccine" at all, not in the true medical sense, that is. It was misnamed from the get-go.

So instead of calling it a "therapeutic" they change the definition, I guess. And then they wonder why people are confused.

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You're smarter than this.

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Yes I am pretty smart. That doesn't mean I never get confused when presented with conflicting and contradictory information from the same party over time. In this case it is the CDC confusing me.

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A therapeutic is one that is given post infection at the onset or duration of disease. No covid vaccine is used for this, nor is it acknowledged by anyone.

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So a "gene therapy" is not a "therapeutic"? Weird.

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Is this one of those "the covid vaccines are gene therapy" gibberish posts.

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The covid vaccines are gene therapy. Is that another one of those redefine terms to fit your narrative responses?

I remember when eric defended Trayvon Martin and 2 teas defended his economic theories or when petro defended abortion. Seems that some people here will suffer the same fate in pushing the vaccine.

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aggiehawg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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So by your definition, the technology of vaccines is getting weaker?

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It is not a "vaccine" at all, not in the true medical sense, that is. It was misnamed from the get-go.

So instead of calling it a "therapeutic" they change the definition, I guess. And then they wonder why people are confused.

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You're smarter than this.

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Yes I am pretty smart. That doesn't mean I never get confused when presented with conflicting and contradictory information from the same party over time. In this case it is the CDC confusing me.

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A therapeutic is one that is given post infection at the onset or duration of disease. No covid vaccine is used for this, nor is it acknowledged by anyone.

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So a "gene therapy" is not a "therapeutic"? Weird.

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Is this one of those "the covid vaccines are gene therapy" gibberish posts.

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The covid vaccines are gene therapy. Is that another one of those redefine terms to fit your narrative responses?

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I love it so much.

WHO deletes Naturally Acquired Immunity

Pandemic, Herd Immunity, Vaccine Definitions changed

Herd Immunity changed by WHO

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Why Did WHO Change Definition Of Herd Immunity Last Year ?
APRIL 19, 2021 / BRIANPECKFORD
John Carpay, President of the Center of Constitutional Freedoms brought to my attention through one of his videos , podcasts this startling fact.
On the WHO website for June 9 , 2020 the following definition is given for herd immunity :
' Herd immunity is the indirect protection from an infectious disease that happens when a population is immune either through vaccination or immunity developed through previous infection '

On November 13, 2020 the definition was changed to:
'Herd immunity also known as 'population immunity' is a concept used for vaccination in which a population can be protected from a certain virus if a threshold of vaccination is reached.'
The Mayo Clinic says that that there are two paths to immunity for COVID , vaccines and infection.
Now , there is a the persuasive idea that vaccines are necessary to get to herd immunity quicker than just through infection but Mayo does tell the truth that there are two ways to reach herd immunity .
If one looks up John Hopkins Medical School and type in herd immunity they immediately have an article attacking natural immunity and supporting vaccine immunity. But it mentions both. It was written last August. It says Sweden who did not get into severe lockdown paid a big price in deaths comparing it to Finland and Norway. However, this world leading Institution has not updated this article to show that since last August many European countries that had severe lockdowns incurred death rates higher than Sweden worldometer says Swedish death rate was 1359 per one million -France is 1541, UK 1867 , Italy 1941.
What WHO should have done was kept the definition for honesty sake ( rather important one would think) and proceed as Mayo did and explain both methods fully.
But in their zeal to be a vaccine partisan they sacrificed honesty.
The other points that are important and not discussed even by Mayo or Hopkins are
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The vaccines presently available are experimental special exemptions by Governments

Hence , we know not what are possible negative effects to these

[/ol]vaccines , even six months out let alone a year or two.
3. Up until now vaccines took two to four years to be approved

4. Given that the companies are provided their own legal immunity from any negative effects of the vaccines , talking about immunity, one has to wonder just how effective these vaccines are going forward. There is even talk now that they are effective for only one year and boosters will be needed.

5. And perhaps the biggest fault of all of all these BIG INSTITUTIONS AND MEDICAL EXPERTS was and is to downplay preventive measures which would have lessened the the number of sick people from using vitamin D, to invermectin to hdroxchoroquin and many other treatments.

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The changing of definitions for herd immunity and natural immunity are complete garbage and not based on science.

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The changing of definitions for herd immunity and natural immunity are complete garbage and not based on science.

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Neither are mask and vaccine policies.

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The changing of definitions for herd immunity and natural immunity are complete garbage and not based on science.

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100% clown show. Agreed.

Downplay preventative measures.
Downplay health.

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wo COVID-19 antivirals in pill form are now in Phase 3 trials, raising hopes that a proven oral treatment will soon be available to quell SARS-CoV-2 infection.

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Merck & Co. with partner Ridgeback Biotherapeutics are well into a Phase 3 trial of molnupiravir as a treatment for people who are in early infection. The firms announced this week that they are enrolling uninfected people who live with someone who is COVID-19 positive in a new Phase 3 trial to test the small molecule's ability to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection.

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Having an antiviral in pill form would take the burden off hospitals, says Daria Hazuda, an antiviral expert and vice president of infectious disease discovery at Merck. A pill would also be easier to disseminate to patients and be easier to take, bolstering compliance.

"There's a lot of excitement for the potential of oral agents, not just for treatment," Hazuda says. "The other huge advantage is the use of oral therapies for prevention."

Molnupiravir works by confusing SARS-CoV-2's polymerase, the enzyme that builds the viral genome during replication. The drug looks enough like some of the natural building blocks that the enzyme incorporates it into the replicating virus, creating mutations in its genetic code, Hazuda says. The virus can copy itself, she says, but with the drug in its genome, it's weak or non-infectious.

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The changing of definitions for herd immunity and natural immunity are complete garbage and not based on science.

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Neither are mask and vaccine policies.

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Completely agree on both.

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aggiehawg said:

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aggiehawg said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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So by your definition, the technology of vaccines is getting weaker?

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It is not a "vaccine" at all, not in the true medical sense, that is. It was misnamed from the get-go.

So instead of calling it a "therapeutic" they change the definition, I guess. And then they wonder why people are confused.

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You're smarter than this.

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Yes I am pretty smart. That doesn't mean I never get confused when presented with conflicting and contradictory information from the same party over time. In this case it is the CDC confusing me.

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A therapeutic is one that is given post infection at the onset or duration of disease. No covid vaccine is used for this, nor is it acknowledged by anyone.

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So a "gene therapy" is not a "therapeutic"? Weird.

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Is this one of those "the covid vaccines are gene therapy" gibberish posts.

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The covid vaccines are gene therapy. Is that another one of those redefine terms to fit your narrative responses?

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I love it so much.

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According to Moderna, Pfizer, FDA, and the SEC it's a gene therapy. According to random internet troll who binges maddow, they arent.

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aggiehawg said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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aggiehawg said:

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RGLAG85 said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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Definitions change as new technology arises? No way.

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So by your definition, the technology of vaccines is getting weaker?

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It is not a "vaccine" at all, not in the true medical sense, that is. It was misnamed from the get-go.

So instead of calling it a "therapeutic" they change the definition, I guess. And then they wonder why people are confused.

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You're smarter than this.

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Yes I am pretty smart. That doesn't mean I never get confused when presented with conflicting and contradictory information from the same party over time. In this case it is the CDC confusing me.

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A therapeutic is one that is given post infection at the onset or duration of disease. No covid vaccine is used for this, nor is it acknowledged by anyone.

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So a "gene therapy" is not a "therapeutic"? Weird.

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Is this one of those "the covid vaccines are gene therapy" gibberish posts.

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The covid vaccines are gene therapy. Is that another one of those redefine terms to fit your narrative responses?

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I love it so much.

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According to Moderna, Pfizer, FDA, and the SEC it's a gene therapy. According to random internet troll who binges maddow, they arent.

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Of course it is.

Technically Tums antacid is now an oral vaccine according to the CDC.