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Freedom isn't selfish.

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And selfishness isn't freedom.

Wrong again...virus transmits through small aerosol particles...go cough and look at all the small droplets.

N95 would block most of those particles. Even if surgical masks 50% effective, it worth it.

Do the simple math.

What?

wxman2005 said:

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Wrong again...virus transmits through small aerosol particles...go cough and look at all the small droplets.

N95 would block most of those particles. Even if surgical masks 50% effective, it worth it.

Do the simple math.

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No, you can't do simple math. Eventually the chance you get covid particles goes to 100%.

wxman2005 said:

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Wrong again...virus transmits through small aerosol particles...go cough and look at all the small droplets.

N95 would block most of those particles. Even if surgical masks 50% effective, it worth it.

Do the simple math.

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Here is the simple math for you.

A mask reduces chance of spread by 50% per encounter.
After 1 encounter your chance of not being infected is 50%
After 2 encounters 25%
After 5 encounters 3%
After 10 encounters 0.1%.
So of your child enteracts with 10 kids he or she will almost certainly catch it (assuming they don't have recent immunity from having it)

backintexas2013 said:

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What?

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He supports forced masks and shots. That's all you need to know.

Isn't this against the law since TAMU is a public university?

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Isn't this against the law since TAMU is a public university?

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Hospitals are exempt.

Post citing the Florida study was deleted? Ok.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.19.21257467v1

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This paper reports on the correlation of mitigation practices with staff and student COVID-19 case rates in Florida, New York, and Massachusetts during the 2020-2021 school year. We analyze data collected by the COVID-19 School Response Dashboard and focus on student density, ventilation upgrades, and masking. We find higher student COVID-19 rates in schools and districts with lower in-person density but no correlations in staff rates. Ventilation upgrades are correlated with lower rates in Florida but not in New York. We do not find any correlations with mask mandates. All rates are lower in the spring, after teacher vaccination is underway.

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Did it quote anything by wxman2005?

Looks like some of his comments got nuked so if it did quote one of those posts, that's probably why.

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Did it quote anything by wxman2005?

Looks like some of his comments got nuked so if it did quote one of those posts, that's probably why.

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Maybe Jack Dorsey deleted his post for spreading misinformation about the effectiveness of masks.

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Spring ISD all masks---low covid
Humble ISD no masks --high covid. Son's school, no mask policy, tons of covid.

MASKS WORK. Been wearing masks everywhere I go, and I still haven't gotten covid.
Also vaccinated fully since April, and will get my booster.

Why wouldn't masks work? N95 blocks everything, Surgical will block almost all large particles coming out of my mouth that contain covid. Go breath on a cold day and watch the mist and how far it goes, put a mask on and it won't go nearly as far. Simple basic physics.

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This is some untrue drivel.


I dont wear a mask. I havent missed a day of work in the field since this started. I also participated in some hurricane Laura recovery stuff and shared a big room with about 200 other people. I haven't gotten covid. So my anecdotal experience cancels out yours.

The only thing scientific studies say about masks is they provide no benefit, especially when worn outside of a laboratory setting.

A recent study out of Bangladesh purported to show wearing a surgical mask helped reduce spread by 12% or so, but they also were doing social distancing. Hard to tell what effected it more.

I'm not some crazy anti masker. There just isn't any evidence they do anything. There's as much evidence they increase your chances of getting covid as there is they decrease it. But you do you. Wear a mask if you wish. I dont care and won't bother someone wearing one because it's their choice.

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Spring ISD all masks---low covid
Humble ISD no masks --high covid. Son's school, no mask policy, tons of covid.

MASKS WORK. Been wearing masks everywhere I go, and I still haven't gotten covid.
Also vaccinated fully since April, and will get my booster.

Why wouldn't masks work? N95 blocks everything, Surgical will block almost all large particles coming out of my mouth that contain covid. Go breath on a cold day and watch the mist and how far it goes, put a mask on and it won't go nearly as far. Simple basic physics.

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you even admit that they are not fool proof. Why is it that mask proponents seem to come with blinders.
I don't wear a mask anywhere I don't have to. Haven't been vaccinated and haven't contracted ( and not fighting not to, just haven't) but then I maintain distance, wash hands, etc. etc.

The distance aerosols travel is immaterial.

Aerosols stay airborne for hours.

COVID does not leave the room when an infected person leaves the room.

I like when people try to make the "simple math" argument and then back their point up with an n=2.

Can the covid not enter your body through your eyes?

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MASKS WORK. Been wearing masks everywhere I go, and I still haven't gotten covid.

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You realize that even ardent mask proponents don't claim that they help keep you from getting infected, right?

Obviously not. I've long thought that most fervent mask wearers and supporters were motivated by their own irrational fears. Choosing to wear a mask makes you feel safer, when there is absolutely no rational basis to believe that it actually does make you safer.

Bro Jeremy how did I catch you lackin this bad????

I dont understand this, but I assume this is gon be good

All the back and forth about masks keeps using the word "work," but if there is to be thoughtful discussion, we should agree on what we mean by "work."

If we expect masks to be magical bulletproof shields against SARS-CoV-2, they will never do that, as even real bulletproof plates can fail when tested beyond their specifications. If by work we mean something less like "slow the spread" then we simply have to quibble about to what degree they satisfy that aim and if satisfying that defined goal is worth accepting them as a worthwhile inconvenience when in shared public spaces..

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All the back and forth about masks keeps using the word "work," but if there is to be thoughtful discussion, we should agree on what we mean by "work."

If we expect masks to be magical bulletproof shields against SARS-CoV-2, they will never do that, as even real bulletproof plates can fail when tested beyond their specifications. If by work we mean something less like "slow the spread" then we simply have to quibble about to what degree they satisfy that aim and if satisfying that defined goal is worth accepting them as a worthwhile inconvenience when in shared public spaces..

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What amount of spread slowing would mean it is working to you? 0.1% effective? 1% effective? 25% effective? More? At what percent effectiveness would it be worth the increased hassle, waste, frustration etc for it to be worth it to you?

There isn't any factor of "work" that mask do to contain covid. They likely cause far more harm than any good, both physical and societal.


If they did work, it would be plainly obvious and backed by pretty substantial studies. Kinda like the vaccine is.

Mask are worn in surgery for bacterial infection reasons, not respiratory.

Lmfao at this discussion. I went to TAMU for the professors, most highly respected in their expertise and their research. If they felt confident that masked helped, I would not care if I thought they didn't. A mask is the least I would do to learn from them. By the way, I have worn all sorts of mask for my profession. Back in the 90s, I spent several 8 hour days in a M8A1 in a butyl suit in a chemical agent incinerator. Surgical masks don't eliminate the hazard, but it does reduce the area of influence. You need something with a MERV 16 rating to eliminate the hazard for viruses.

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Lmfao at this discussion. I went to TAMU for the professors, most highly respected in their expertise and their research. If they felt confident that masked helped, I would not care if I thought they didn't. A mask is the least I would do to learn from them. By the way, I have worn all sorts of mask for my profession. Back in the 90s, I spent several 8 hour days in a M8A1 in a butyl suit in a chemical agent incinerator. Surgical masks don't eliminate the hazard, but it does reduce the area of influence. You need something with a MERV 16 rating to eliminate the hazard for viruses.

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You're saying there's still a chance of getting it with a mask. Now, what happens when you have enough exposures?

Six pages of commentary, and I'll bet not a single current student posted. I saw one person post whom I know is staff on campus. The rest, it seems like a lot old Ags with too much time on their hands, with no current connection to campus, and whose knowledge of what happens on campus is limited to internet rumors.

From my observations , 80% of students don't wear masks. Some professors care and some professors don't. if you have a child on campus who feels their professor is pressuring them to wear a mask, for pete's sake stop being a helicopter parent and let your kid figure out how to deal with it.

(And I'm 5 days late to this thread, because the current students are now using it as an example on Reddit of how out of touch Texags is.)

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Masks work.
Vaccines work.

Just lost a family member to covid. Stop being idiots.

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Apparently they did not work for your family member. Just saying.

Children do not post on TexAgs cause that is what us dorks do.