Irish 2.0's COVID Vaccine Rant

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Irish 2.0
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YouBet said:

Do we know yet if you get an mRNA now and then a year or more from now you then get the Novavax if there is any potential harm in doing so?

Mostly rhetorical since I know we don't know that yet, but I am curious when later vaccines are developed that are more effective if you are stuck with an mRNA forever because you took one of those now.
I would assume in theory it shouldn't be an issue given that they're two different vaccines and the mode of action is different. Not sceintific enough to give a true answer though
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Few might realize this because it is not so heavily reported, but vaccine hesitancy amongst medical professionals is running over 40% still. Even some of our own doctors aren't in a rush to get a mRNA vaccine due to the lack of data. But the ones I have talked to that are hesitant to get the mRNA have said they'll be first in line for Novovax and I'll be right behind them.
This study found that as of June 2021, practicing physicians were 96% vaccinated.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-96-of-physicians-are-vaccinated-for-covid-19

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
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YouBet said:

Do we know yet if you get an mRNA now and then a year or more from now you then get the Novavax if there is any potential harm in doing so?

Mostly rhetorical since I know we don't know that yet, but I am curious when later vaccines are developed that are more effective if you are stuck with an mRNA forever because you took one of those now.


Good Lord....this is the premise to "28 Days Later".
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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GeorgiAg said:

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Few might realize this because it is not so heavily reported, but vaccine hesitancy amongst medical professionals is running over 40% still. Even some of our own doctors aren't in a rush to get a mRNA vaccine due to the lack of data. But the ones I have talked to that are hesitant to get the mRNA have said they'll be first in line for Novovax and I'll be right behind them.
This study found that as of June 2021, practicing physicians were 96% vaccinated.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-96-of-physicians-are-vaccinated-for-covid-19

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19


96% of the 301 respondents....yes.
"The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution was never designed to restrain the people. It was designed to restrain the government."
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YouBet said:

Do we know yet if you get an mRNA now and then a year or more from now you then get the Novavax if there is any potential harm in doing so?

Mostly rhetorical since I know we don't know that yet, but I am curious when later vaccines are developed that are more effective if you are stuck with an mRNA forever because you took one of those now.
I've seen a few articles which have said the NovaVax one could be used as a booster to previously administers shots. Now this was some months ago so I guess we'll find out if or when the FDA gets their head out of their ass.

"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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GeorgiAg said:

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Few might realize this because it is not so heavily reported, but vaccine hesitancy amongst medical professionals is running over 40% still. Even some of our own doctors aren't in a rush to get a mRNA vaccine due to the lack of data. But the ones I have talked to that are hesitant to get the mRNA have said they'll be first in line for Novovax and I'll be right behind them.
This study found that as of June 2021, practicing physicians were 96% vaccinated.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-96-of-physicians-are-vaccinated-for-covid-19

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
A completely bull**** poll. 301 people is not nearly a large enough sample size to be remotely accurate.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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BigRobSA said:

YouBet said:

Do we know yet if you get an mRNA now and then a year or more from now you then get the Novavax if there is any potential harm in doing so?

Mostly rhetorical since I know we don't know that yet, but I am curious when later vaccines are developed that are more effective if you are stuck with an mRNA forever because you took one of those now.


Good Lord....this is the premise to "28 Days Later".
If I get the vaccine and become a fast zombie I'm going to try and get myself to a highly concentrated area of Democrats before I turn.

You're welcome, America!
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Rapier108 said:

GeorgiAg said:

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Few might realize this because it is not so heavily reported, but vaccine hesitancy amongst medical professionals is running over 40% still. Even some of our own doctors aren't in a rush to get a mRNA vaccine due to the lack of data. But the ones I have talked to that are hesitant to get the mRNA have said they'll be first in line for Novovax and I'll be right behind them.
This study found that as of June 2021, practicing physicians were 96% vaccinated.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-96-of-physicians-are-vaccinated-for-covid-19

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
A completely bull**** poll. 301 people is not nearly a large enough sample size to be remotely accurate.


Exactly, thank you Rapier. The actual percentage is likely higher.
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GeorgiAg said:

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Few might realize this because it is not so heavily reported, but vaccine hesitancy amongst medical professionals is running over 40% still. Even some of our own doctors aren't in a rush to get a mRNA vaccine due to the lack of data. But the ones I have talked to that are hesitant to get the mRNA have said they'll be first in line for Novovax and I'll be right behind them.
This study found that as of June 2021, practicing physicians were 96% vaccinated.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-96-of-physicians-are-vaccinated-for-covid-19

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19


the Forbes article OP linked referred to all healthcare workers, not just physicians but also nurses and aides. it also cited the 96% figure among physicians, but noted that vaccination rates were under 50% for nurses.

maybe the nurses know something the physicians don't?
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Ag$08 said:

Rapier108 said:

GeorgiAg said:

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Few might realize this because it is not so heavily reported, but vaccine hesitancy amongst medical professionals is running over 40% still. Even some of our own doctors aren't in a rush to get a mRNA vaccine due to the lack of data. But the ones I have talked to that are hesitant to get the mRNA have said they'll be first in line for Novovax and I'll be right behind them.
This study found that as of June 2021, practicing physicians were 96% vaccinated.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/study-finds-96-of-physicians-are-vaccinated-for-covid-19

https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-survey-shows-over-96-doctors-fully-vaccinated-against-covid-19
A completely bull**** poll. 301 people is not nearly a large enough sample size to be remotely accurate.


Exactly, thank you Rapier. The actual percentage is likely higher.
Only in the fantasy world you created for yourself where you believe the shots are 100% safe and everyone is willing to get them except for stupid people that need to be forced to take the needle or else.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Ag$08
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And yet your unfounded pessimistic outlook keeps getting shown to be unwarranted and people are dying needlessly as a result.
JonSnow
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"Healthcare workers" can include everyone in the hospital including the janitors and orderlies. I can tell with certainty that vaccination rate amongst physicians is 95%+ if not higher. The only point of contention is which vaccine to get and when/if you booster.
Irish 2.0
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Novavax applies to WHO for emergency listing of COVID-19 vaccine

Getting closer...
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Novovax is the one I am waiting for.
aggiehawg
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Rapier108 said:

YouBet said:

Do we know yet if you get an mRNA now and then a year or more from now you then get the Novavax if there is any potential harm in doing so?

Mostly rhetorical since I know we don't know that yet, but I am curious when later vaccines are developed that are more effective if you are stuck with an mRNA forever because you took one of those now.
I've seen a few articles which have said the NovaVax one could be used as a booster to previously administers shots. Now this was some months ago so I guess we'll find out if or when the FDA gets their head out of their ass.


Let's go back to this for a moment. Correct me if I am wrong but the Novavax shot is a true vaccine and not mrna gene therapy. So using an actual vaccine as a "booster" shot to augment the mrna shots is a bit disingenuous, isn't it? An admission that the mrna shots aren't working?
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Ag$08 said:

And yet your unfounded pessimistic outlook keeps getting shown to be unwarranted and people are dying needlessly as a result.
Wrong, people have made up their minds on these drugs a long time ago. No amount of shilling on your part or skepticism on "AnTiVaXxErS" part will change anybody's minds at this point.
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Getting closer...
Of course it was for that. In what universe did you think it was okay to post a naked man spreading open his butt cheeks on our platform?
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Tailgate88
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Does Covavax = Novavax?
Irish 2.0
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Never heard of Covovax
Of course it was for that. In what universe did you think it was okay to post a naked man spreading open his butt cheeks on our platform?
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Boo Weekley
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They are threatening to fire us even though some of us have vastly superior natural immunity (not that that should matter). I have heard of some pharmacists willing to give the shot into the trash can for a small price. If anyone has "a guy" (lol can't imagine any female ever doing this) please PM me. Shooting for the Houston area but someone told me there a pharmacist in college station that does it for $100 and I'd be willing to make that trek if I had to.
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I thought it was the name of the vaccine developed by Novavax. Thought I read that somewhere
Irish 2.0
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Nitro Power said:

I thought it was the name of the vaccine developed by Novavax. Thought I read that somewhere
Novavax is NVX-CoV2373
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richardag
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Irish 2.0 said:

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Too late for me, hope it works and gains traction. I read it should be ok for booster shots. Now need GlaxoSmithKline version approved.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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