Biden to Americans in Afghanistan: good luck getting to the airport

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Kenneth_2003
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Hannity reporting that the Taliban has a perimeter outside that at up by the 82nd Airborn and no one is permitted passage. Said a German flight, capable of carrying close to 200, recently departed with 7 passengers.
Sarge 91
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Hannity reporting that the Taliban has a perimeter outside that at up by the 82nd Airborn and no one is permitted passage. Said a German flight, capable of carrying close to 200, recently departed with 7 passengers.


Has to be fake news. Taliban pinkie promised safe passage for everyone!!
titan
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Sea Speed said:

LostInLA07 said:

thirdcoast said:

100% guarantee there will be hostages traded for cash and prisoner releases in the end. Carter 2.0.


Every American in Kabul is currently a hostage


I had not even thought about it that way but that is about as real as it gets.
Now imagine if that could be true if they were Chinese of Xi, or Russians of Putin, and you will have a good idea of a particular trait we need to lose.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Now we are going to get to the point where this becomes Biden's Benghazi.

Wonder how they'll try covering it up when American citizens start receiving the Taliban treatment?

Kenneth_2003
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Stlkofta said:

Now we are going to get to the point where this becomes Biden's Benghazi.

Wonder how they'll try covering it up when American citizens start receiving the Taliban treatment?


10,000 plus? Someone's parent or sibling just might start shooting.
There's NO WAY to cover up 10,000+ US Citizens stuck over there.
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BTHOB-98 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

At this point, what American citizen would possibly be in Afghanistan unless they were Military on orders?
I'm sure we have government contractors there.
I hope that they have an H Ross Perot equivalent who will get them out.

The State Department said get the hell out back in April
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/afghanistan-advisory.html
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On April 27, 2021, the Department ordered the departure from U.S. Embassy Kabul of U.S. government employees whose functions can be performed elsewhere.

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.

Terrorist and insurgent groups continue planning and executing attacks in Afghanistan. These attacks occur with little or no warning, and have targeted official Afghan and U.S. government convoys and facilities, local government buildings, foreign embassies, military installations, commercial entities, non-governmental organization (NGO) offices, hospitals, residential compounds, tourist locations, transportation hubs, public gatherings, markets and shopping areas, places of worship, restaurants, hotels, universities, airports, schools, gymnasiums, and other locations frequented by U.S. citizens and other foreign nationals.

The U.S. Embassy's ability to provide routine and emergency services to U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is severely limited, particularly outside of Kabul. Evacuation options from Afghanistan are extremely limited due to the lack of infrastructure, geographic constraints, and the volatile security situation.

Family members cannot accompany U.S. government employees who work in Afghanistan. Unofficial travel to Afghanistan by U.S. government employees and their family members is restricted and requires prior approval from the Department of State. U.S. Embassy personnel are restricted from traveling to all locations in Kabul except the U.S. Embassy and other U.S. government facilities unless there is a compelling U.S. government interest in permitting such travel that outweighs the risk. Additional security measures are needed for any U.S. government employee travel and movement through Afghanistan.
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Get Netflix on the phone. We bout to do a Spies Like Us reboot.

Chevy Case and Akroyd still kickin?
TxTarpon
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Geez, you have to log into a website?
Harder to get that done than vote in blue states.
What an outrage.
titan
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Fightin TX Aggie said:


Keep re-reading that notice. Look at that real implications of it ---- get somewhere, but we can't help protect you trying to do it, but if you can get there, presumably, will be taken out.

I wonder if Xi could guarantee it for Chinese if the shoe was on their foot...
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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aggiehawg said:



They just don't care.
Psaki said we're focusing on getting out as many American citizens, SIV applicants, and the venerable population as possible.

She should have said we're not going to stop until every American citizen is safely out of Afghanistan, but she didn't. That's the difference.
titan
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Right. Something more like Belgium has to say, not a `superpower'.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
richardag
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HollywoodBQ said:

BTHOB-98 said:

HollywoodBQ said:

At this point, what American citizen would possibly be in Afghanistan unless they were Military on orders?
I'm sure we have government contractors there.
I hope that they have an H Ross Perot equivalent who will get them out.

The State Department said get the hell out back in April
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/traveladvisories/traveladvisories/afghanistan-advisory.html
Quote:

On April 27, 2021, the Department ordered the departure from U.S. Embassy Kabul of U.S. government employees whose functions can be performed elsewhere.

Travel to all areas of Afghanistan is unsafe because of critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.

Terrorist and insurgent groups continue planning and executing attacks in Afghanistan. These attacks occur with little or no warning, and have targeted official Afghan and U.S. government convoys and facilities, local government buildings, foreign embassies, military installations, commercial entities, non-governmental organization (NGO) offices, hospitals, residential compounds, tourist locations, transportation hubs, public gatherings, markets and shopping areas, places of worship, restaurants, hotels, universities, airports, schools, gymnasiums, and other locations frequented by U.S. citizens and other foreign nationals.

The U.S. Embassy's ability to provide routine and emergency services to U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is severely limited, particularly outside of Kabul. Evacuation options from Afghanistan are extremely limited due to the lack of infrastructure, geographic constraints, and the volatile security situation.

Family members cannot accompany U.S. government employees who work in Afghanistan. Unofficial travel to Afghanistan by U.S. government employees and their family members is restricted and requires prior approval from the Department of State. U.S. Embassy personnel are restricted from traveling to all locations in Kabul except the U.S. Embassy and other U.S. government facilities unless there is a compelling U.S. government interest in permitting such travel that outweighs the risk. Additional security measures are needed for any U.S. government employee travel and movement through Afghanistan.

Thank you for the information.

So back in April the
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critical levels of kidnappings, hostage taking, suicide bombings, widespread military combat operations, landmines, and terrorist and insurgent attacks, including attacks using vehicle-borne, magnetic, or other improvised explosive devices (IEDs), suicide vests, and grenades.
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targeted official Afghan and U.S. government convoys and facilities, local government buildings, foreign embassies, military installations, commercial entities, non-governmental organization (NGO) offices, hospitals, residential compounds, tourist locations, transportation hubs, public gatherings, markets and shopping areas, places of worship, restaurants, hotels, universities, airports, schools, gymnasiums, and other locations frequented by U.S. citizens and other foreign nationals.

But now our government, President Biden's administration, must trust the Taliban to allow US citizens safe passage to the airport for evacuation.

This administration is the most incompetent insidiously ignorant in the history of our nation.

Anyone even remotely considering voting for any Democratic candidate should reconsider as all the disasters are unfolding before our eyes in the last 8 months.



Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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I was working in the coastal city of Salalah, Oman during the Arab Spring period in early 2011. I was registered with the US Embassy in Muscat during my entire 5 years there, but it got interesting in May 2011 when the government cracked down on a bunch of folks staging an almost month-long sit-in at the Dhofar governor's office. The first clue that something was happening was the cell service and the internet went out suddenly one evening. I found out the next morning that the government had cut comm and that the Omani Army, police, etc. moved in and cleared the protest out. We had armored vehicles at most major intersections for a couple of months afterward...but the guys were clearly there for show as most of the troops were literally asleep on top of their vehicles.

Getting to my point--during this time, the Embassy was very proactive in communicating with us. They even sent out instructions on "safe havens" to go to if things got bad. There were at least three in the city at western hotels with defendable perimeters. The idea was to go there, then be pulled out if required. I was, however, working with the US military and my plan was to go to the base and ride things out there if required. Bottom line, there was a PLAN.

Beyond that, most expats overseas have a bug-out plan. Some even had local clothing and planned to exfil without using air travel. Salalah was on the coast...boats were available. I can remember having three distinct alternative plans to get out. Thankfully, it never became necessary. Oman is/was a stable country that is a bit like the Switzerland of the Middle East. The Omani people were wonderful and I often find myself thinking fondly about my time there.
Sea Speed
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I traveled from muscat to duqm and our driver stopped in a field to talk with his friend and serve us dates and fresh goat and camel milk from his friends herd. It is something I will never ever forget.

Salalah was much nicer than duqm haha
Cen-Tex
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Is this Kabul or World War Z?

Proc92
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Cen-Tex said:

Is this Kabul or World War Z?


Desperation.
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