Companies Using Prison Labor Amid Shortage

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Companies claim there's a labor shortage. Their solution? Prisoners
Some companies are using prison labor amid claims of a worker shortage. Critics argue they should just raise wages instead.
How corporations buyand sellfood made with prison labor

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Examples include candy manufacturer Russell Stover, which operates in Kansas, along with restaurants in Texas, Michigan, Delaware, and Ohio.

Though this may be an economical solution for companies, critics say prison work release programs are exploitative, as prisoners are typically paid less than non-incarcerated workers and are denied benefits and paid time off. A spokesperson for Russell Stover did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
They are making the food we consume?
I wish the article would list the Texas restaurants participating in this program.
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In April, Russell Stover candy production facilities in Iola and Abilene, Kansas, began using prison labor through the Topeka correctional facility in response to staffing issues disrupting production lines.

About 150 prisoners work at the plant, making $14 an hour with no benefits or paid time off, while other workers start at higher wages with benefits and paid time off. Kansas also deducts 25% of prisoners' pay for room and board, and another 5% goes toward a victim's fund. The prisoners also must pay for gas for the nearly two-hour bus ride to and from the plant.
Sweet labor rate there.
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In New York City, construction industry employers recruit recently released prisoners who must seek and maintain employment as a condition of their release from prison.

Thousands of workers in New York City are siphoned from prison into low-paying construction jobs with no benefits, no health insurance and unsafe working conditions. These job sites, known as "body shops", use subcontractors so that employers can offload risk insurance liability. The practice has been spreading, but the New York city council is considering legislation to regulate these employers.
Interesting how all those liberals up there keep this going.
Sort of like they are uncaring elitists or something.
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Black Media News Link on Hiring Cons From 2014
Prison labor in the United States is referred to as insourcing.
Under the Work Opportunity Tax Credit (WOTC), employers receive a tax credit of $2,400 for every work-release inmate they employ as a reward for hiring "risky target groups."

The workers are not only cheap labor, but they are considered easier to control. They also tend to be African-American males. Companies are free to avoid providing benefits like health insurance or sick days. They also don't need to worry about unions, demands for vacation time, raises or family issues.

According to the Left Business Observer, "the federal prison industry produces 100 percent of all military helmets, war supplies and other equipment. The workers supply 98 percent of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93 percent of paints and paintbrushes; 92 percent of stove assembly; 46 percent of body armor; 36 percent of home appliances; 30 percent of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21 percent of office furniture.

Airplane parts, medical supplies and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people."
Nice!!
Beats sitting around a prison yard worrying about getting shanked.
They make all military helmets? Really? That is surprising.
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BillYeoman
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Scarlet O'Hara economics..
Nasreddin
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Absolutely disgusting. The prison system in this country is so corrupt. One of the biggest lobby groups against marijuana legalization? Do you know who it is? It's the prison guards union. Think about that for awhile.
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Federal prison in Beaumont rebuilds diesel engines for DOD.
TxTarpon
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Do they do a good job?
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Robin Hood Was A Thief said:

Absolutely disgusting. The prison system in this country is so corrupt. One of the biggest lobby groups against marijuana legalization? Do you know who it is? It's the prison guards union. Think about that for awhile.


Yes. How evil to pay derelicts $14/hour to do something productive with their time. The prison-industrial complex has gone too far this time!
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As long as it costs the companies as much as it would using non-incarcerated workers. If they are saving money, this **** needs to stop right now.
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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TxTarpon said:


Companies claim there's a labor shortage. Their solution? Prisoners
Some companies are using prison labor amid claims of a worker shortage. Critics argue they should just raise wages instead.
How corporations buyand sellfood made with prison labor

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Examples include candy manufacturer Russell Stover, which operates in Kansas, along with restaurants in Texas, Michigan, Delaware, and Ohio.

Though this may be an economical solution for companies, critics say prison work release programs are exploitative, as prisoners are typically paid less than non-incarcerated workers and are denied benefits and paid time off. A spokesperson for Russell Stover did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
They are making the food we consume?
I wish the article would list the Texas restaurants participating in this program.
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In April, Russell Stover candy production facilities in Iola and Abilene, Kansas, began using prison labor through the Topeka correctional facility in response to staffing issues disrupting production lines.

About 150 prisoners work at the plant, making $14 an hour with no benefits or paid time off, while other workers start at higher wages with benefits and paid time off. Kansas also deducts 25% of prisoners' pay for room and board, and another 5% goes toward a victim's fund. The prisoners also must pay for gas for the nearly two-hour bus ride to and from the plant.
Sweet labor rate there.
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In New York City, construction industry employers recruit recently released prisoners who must seek and maintain employment as a condition of their release from prison.

Thousands of workers in New York City are siphoned from prison into low-paying construction jobs with no benefits, no health insurance and unsafe working conditions. These job sites, known as "body shops", use subcontractors so that employers can offload risk insurance liability. The practice has been spreading, but the New York city council is considering legislation to regulate these employers.
Interesting how all those liberals up there keep this going.
Sort of like they are uncaring elitists or something.
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Black Media News Link on Hiring Cons From 2014
Prison labor in the United States is referred to as insourcing.
Under the Work Opportunity Tax Credit (WOTC), employers receive a tax credit of $2,400 for every work-release inmate they employ as a reward for hiring "risky target groups."

The workers are not only cheap labor, but they are considered easier to control. They also tend to be African-American males. Companies are free to avoid providing benefits like health insurance or sick days. They also don't need to worry about unions, demands for vacation time, raises or family issues.

According to the Left Business Observer, "the federal prison industry produces 100 percent of all military helmets, war supplies and other equipment. The workers supply 98 percent of the entire market for equipment assembly services; 93 percent of paints and paintbrushes; 92 percent of stove assembly; 46 percent of body armor; 36 percent of home appliances; 30 percent of headphones/microphones/speakers; and 21 percent of office furniture.

Airplane parts, medical supplies and much more: prisoners are even raising seeing-eye dogs for blind people."
Nice!!
Beats sitting around a prison yard worrying about getting shanked.
They make all military helmets? Really? That is surprising.
Trying to blame the dems for the corruption of the prison system may not work out for ya.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries./indus.php?ind=G7000

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/contrib.php?cycle=2018&ind=G7000
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

As long as it costs the companies as much as it would using non-incarcerated workers. If they are saving money, this **** needs to stop right now.


Why? They're saving money because they don't have to provide benefits for individuals that have every single one of their expenses covered by tax dollars. Not to mention work programs allow them the opportunity to show good behavior and build a case for parole. Do you think the workers would prefer to sit staring at a wall with no recourse to help their case?

I'm fine if you get rid of the tax incentive, but what the hell does it matter if it's cheaper for the company? They're hiring from a riskier labor pool so they have to account for the fact that the product quality might be lower.
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As long as it costs the companies as much as it would using non-incarcerated workers. If they are saving money, this **** needs to stop right now.
Looks like they are spending less per worker than non convict labor.
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TxTarpon
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Geo Group houses illegal aliens for a hefty bill us thanks to us taxpayers.
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The State of Texas did this in thelate 1800's, early 1900's for a while. The program ended due to craptastic treatment of prison labor and eventual court cases outlawing it.

I personally have no issue with it, or the lower wages or tge no benefits. That is part of incareration, and part of the risk taken on by companies. Beats having,orisoners in the yard lifting weights or,doing nothing and gives them marketable skills upon release.
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Prison system is a scam.
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

As long as it costs the companies as much as it would using non-incarcerated workers. If they are saving money, this **** needs to stop right now.


Why should a convicted criminal get to work for the same wage as anyone else while they're being punished for a crime and living on society's dime? That is giving them their cake and letting them eat it too. Everyone else has to pay for gas, food, housing, utilities, etc, so why should convicts who are paying for nothing be allowed to work for the same amount and keep more than law abiding citizens at the end of the day?
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Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

As long as it costs the companies as much as it would using non-incarcerated workers. If they are saving money, this **** needs to stop right now.

why?
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snowdog90 said:

Prison system is a scam.


Exactly how? And what is a better alternative?
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Exactly how? And what is a better alternative?





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"Why won't companies just pay the $25/hr the government is giving them to stay at home and do nothing?!"

-Concerned Moderate
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TxTarpon said:



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Examples include candy manufacturer Russell Stover, which operates in Kansas, along with restaurants in Texas, Michigan, Delaware, and Ohio.

Though this may be an economical solution for companies, critics say prison work release programs are exploitative, as prisoners are typically paid less than non-incarcerated workers and are denied benefits and paid time off. A spokesperson for Russell Stover did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

So we're upset that prisoners can't go on vacation?
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Ghost of Andrew Eaton said:

As long as it costs the companies as much as it would using non-incarcerated workers. If they are saving money, this **** needs to stop right now.


Why should a convicted criminal get to work for the same wage as anyone else while they're being punished for a crime and living on society's dime? That is giving them their cake and letting them eat it too. Everyone else has to pay for gas, food, housing, utilities, etc, so why should convicts who are paying for nothing be allowed to work for the same amount and keep more than law abiding citizens at the end of the day?


I don't know that the individual worker should be paid the same but if the cost is less than what would be paid to a member of society, then the prison don't have a reason to employee people who need to be productive. And it encourages gross injustices and a "need" for prison labor.

Something similar to this.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal
If you say you hate the state of politics in this nation and you don't get involved in it, you obviously don't hate the state of politics in this nation.
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So we're upset that prisoners can't go on vacation?
You might be.
Most of the "we" on this page are wondering whose bro in law is getting rich off of these honey pot deals.
And what restaurants are hiring these convicts to make our food.
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Biblical Justice knows nothing of jail or prisons. The Biblical model is restitution (often a multiple of harm to the victim) or capital punishment. Putting someone in jail does nothing for the victim. It's not justice.
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Why are the prisoners being paid at all? The money should go to the state to defray the cost of their incarceration, not to mention court costs, police time, etc. I don't see this as materially different than prison farms, license plate making, or jobs inside the prison.
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"No benefits or health insurance"

Like:

- No meals
- No free gym membership
- No medical treatments if they get shanked or just get sick?

Liars.
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New York should hire an inmate as governor. Status quo is guaranteed.
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Weed ought to be decriminalized and violent offenders ought to be put on the chain gang and made to work 12 hours for their dinner.

The criminal justice system is weak. Real criminals are not afraid. They see incarceration as an inconvenience. It needs to become a fate worse than death.

I realize there is caselaw. It's written by soft,'weak, and Godless jurists.
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