JNJ company meeting...what should I do?

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Quito
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I'm not vaccinated because I was prior military abd had all 4 rounds of Anthrax, Small Pox, Cow Pox, you name it. Those were threats I was actually concerned about.

Last thing I want is another shot that may or may not work. I'm 45 and healthy...I work out or run everyday.

Jnj basically shaming us to vaccinate. As a white male (just being real, as we all know there's a target on my back) what should I do.


samurai_science
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They dont have a way to verify the vaccine cards in Texas.
Dilettante
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You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Marcus Brutus
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Fake card.
Marcus Brutus
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Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.


Or a labotomy. About as good as any vax prevention at his age and health.
Troglodyte
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Work from home
samurai_science
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Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.
Buying_time
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Stop, drop, and roll.
hbtheduce
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Get a new job
Stat Monitor Repairman
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'Anthrax, Small Pox, Cow Pox, you name it.'

Yep. Same.

I'm vaxxed up for life far as Im concerned.

Somebody else's turn.

If covid kills me after all this ****

See y'all
FriscoKid
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Say that you got it. There are enough breakthroughs so that when you get it you can just claim that.
UTExan
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Tell them to diversify into ammunition production.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
-Havelock Vetinari
Deputy Travis Junior
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samurai_texan said:

Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.


Citation.
Buck Turgidson
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I'm not sure what your previous vaccinations have to do with anything. I was in the Marines and got all kinds of shots without knowing what they were.

I won't take any Covid "vaccine" like Pfizer without seeing the long term results. That means I won't consider taking it for a minimum of 4-5 more years. If the people who took it today are just fine at that point, MAYBE I'd take it. But none of that has any relation to the ridiculous amount of crap I had injected into my system by Uncle Sam back before I realized how ****ing evil our government is.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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UTExan said:

Tell them to diversify into ammunition production.


Wasn't it J&J that manufactured gas for gas chambers or maybe that was Kodak?
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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Buck Turgidson said:

I'm not sure what your previous vaccinations have to do with anything. I was in the Marines and got all kinds of shots without knowing what they were.

I won't take any Covid "vaccine" like Pfizer without seeing the long term results. That means I won't consider taking it for a minimum of 4-5 more years. If the people who took it today are just fine at that point, MAYBE I'd take it. But none of that has any relation to the ridiculous amount of crap I had injected into my system by Uncle Sam back before I realized how ****ing evil our government is.


Thank you for your service. Your spot on.
samurai_science
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

samurai_texan said:

Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.


Citation.
Easy to find...see UK and Israel data....
C@LAg
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Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
you should get #$^&#^$

and my Ted talk was better.

see how that works.
samurai_science
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

samurai_texan said:

Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.


Citation.
Some of us have been posting studies on here for at least a month, guess no one reads?
Marcus Brutus
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

samurai_texan said:

Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.


Citation.


Search engines exist.
PA24
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Don't lie

Stat Monitor Repairman
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Hearing more and more about people having long term side effects from a type of malaria drug they gave to people in the mid 90s.

If they couldn't get your paper medical record to see if you'd already been vaccinated, they didn't give a ****, they just vaccinated you again for the same ****.

Every year they would give out flu shots and ever single year I would get hammered with flu symptoms 2-3 days after the shot. Every time.

But, you got up and went to work anyway.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Point is,

I don't want to participate in this drama, i dont want to voluntarily seek out problems, and don't need any more problems than I already got.
HollywoodBQ
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I assume it's a short duration meeting.

Mask up and if anyone asks just say you feel more comfortable this way.

No matter what, don't lie in any situation where your answer will be recorded.

Because, they could use it as a reason to fire you later when they find out the truth.
FbgTxAg
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At this point NO business is requiring an employee or customer to be vaccinated. What they are requiring is that you show proof of vaccination.

Currently this is beyond simple and easy to do.

Play the game. Show them what they want to see. Remain employed and unvaccinated.

Everyone is happy(ish).
samurai_science
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Deputy Travis Junior said:

samurai_texan said:

Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.


Citation.


Just a sample

Ginormus Ag
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Tell them you identify as vaccinated. And, some times you identify as a purple unicorn who pisses Mountain Dew and ****s Skittles.

This concludes my TEd Talk.
Deputy Travis Junior
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polarice
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samurai_texan said:

Deputy Travis Junior said:

samurai_texan said:

Dilettante said:

You should get vaccinated.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
It's pointless against the Delta, this is the data from the UK and Israel.


Citation.
Some of us have been posting studies on here for at least a month, guess no one reads?

You and all your socks?
DeWrecking Crew
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Tell them you were vaccinated with Ivermectin
Deputy Travis Junior
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So... I don't think that study says what you think it does.

First group (Delta Cases): look at how low the "total cases, > 50" number is versus the "total cases, < 50" number. Only 9,571 cases in 4 months for the far more naturally vulnerable, yet heavily vaccinated, population versus 82,458 for the < 50 population, which has stronger natural resistance, yet a much lower vaccination rate. The vaccine is clearly providing some protection against symptomatic cases.

In the ER visits sections, the "unvaccinated" numbers are 6-8x as high as the vaccinated numbers. 190 (vaccinated) versus 1,571 (unvaccinated) for ER visits. 80 (vaccinated) versus 484 (unvaccinated) for overnight admissions.

I'll give you the deaths (50 versus 44), but that's a fairly small population overall and 88 of the 94 were over 50 (likely had complicating health problems), and all 6 of the under 50 deaths were unvaccinated.

One major complication with interpreting these numbers: they were collected during a phased vaccine rollout, so the vaccine percentages changed significantly over time. So, early on, basically nobody under 50 was vaccinated, so the nearly all cases went in the unvaccinated column. The opposite is true with the > 50 crowd: by June, vaccination rates were so high that the vaccinated population dwarfed the unvaccinated population.

Still, the fact that total case numbers and hospitalizations were so low in the < 50 group shows that the vaccines work. Everybody knows that covid is far more dangerous to the old, and yet here's data showing more ER visits by the young and roughly equal overnight admissions.
vmiaptetr
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Tell them you're going to pause to think about getting vaccinated. Just like their vaccination was paused from being given. You gotta speak their language man.
agsalaska
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You should get vaccinated. This is not rocket science.

Go ask your doctor. Do you have a doctor that you listen too? Cause if you do you should ask him. I bet you $100,000 internet bucks that he/she would agree with me.

The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln.



gtaggie_08
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Wrong. 35 years old and relatively healthy male who had a bout with this pansy ask cold. Doctor I talked to said at my age and health level the vaxx jab didn't make much sense since I had recovered from it already. Said I could get it if I wanted but it would be like putting a band aid on a scar. Body already healed so the jab would only try to do what the body already did
mannerheim77
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I'm in IT and my company has the same policy - vaxxed, no restrictions. unvaxxed mask at all times.

But here's the thing though. The VAST majority of employees are already used to the new normal of WFH, so the office is completely dead. Nobody is going in. And being in IT, the company knows we can bolt and find another job easy, so they're playing the covid game very carefully. If they give me a vax ultimatum then no problem...see ya. If they force me to WFH then I win.
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