Forgive my ignorance on the topic (which is why I'm posting here); but what, when, how does this all come to an end? It's seemingly evident that our rights and freedoms as US citizens are being imposed upon if not stripped out from beneath our feet. From post 9/11 privacy concerns to now vaccine mandates. When is enough to the point where people fight this? How would it go down? What can we do?

Complete governmental control.

I could tell you, but I'm not sure this boards mods would allow it

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Complete governmental control.

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Then aliens and then zombies.

Genocide tailored for the modern palate.

Total dependence on modern monetary theory. Consolidation of financial system to Blackrock and handful of other institutions. Anyone fortunate enough to own assets will be vilified and taxed until wealth is concentrated amongst gov bureaucrats, celebs, and a few corporate cronies.

I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

4th industrial revolution

Jesus Returns

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Total dependence on modern monetary theory. Consolidation of financial system to Blackrock and handful of other institutions. Anyone fortunate enough to own assets will be vilified and taxed until wealth is concentrated amongst gov bureaucrats, celebs, and a few corporate cronies.

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So basically Venezuela.

Thats all you got to say.

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Forgive my ignorance on the topic (which is why I'm posting here); but what, when, how does this all come to an end? It's seemingly evident that our rights and freedoms as US citizens are being imposed upon if not stripped out from beneath our feet. From post 9/11 privacy concerns to now vaccine mandates. When is enough to the point where people fight this? How would it go down? What can we do?

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I am not a dispensationalist, but I can certainly see how my dispensational brothers and sisters feel like all the worst parts of Revelation are upon us.

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Forgive my ignorance on the topic (which is why I'm posting here); but what, when, how does this all come to an end? It's seemingly evident that our rights and freedoms as US citizens are being imposed upon if not stripped out from beneath our feet. From post 9/11 privacy concerns to now vaccine mandates. When is enough to the point where people fight this? How would it go down? What can we do?

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Step 1 is to move out of large cities. That will automatically give you at least some better chance of surviving the meltdown.

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

The end game is full control over the population. Total control. It has always been their goal.

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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The end game is full control over the population. Total control. It has always been their goal.

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Yes but by the way let's do war with Cuba and China in the name of freedom

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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Jesus Returns

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I'm all for this.

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

UBI is the dumbest idea on the planet. It would be a failure of epic proportions.

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aTmAg said:

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

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Whether or not people go hungry solely depends on if there is enough food. If there is not enough food, then we can print everybody UBI checks of $10 Trillion each and it won't matter. People can't eat UBI checks.

Same with free Healthcare and education.
Free doesn't mean it's available or worth a darn.

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aTmAg said:

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

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Whether or not people go hungry solely depends on if there is enough food. If there is not enough food, then we can print everybody UBI checks of $10 Trillion each and it won't matter. People can't eat UBI checks.

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Of course this is all hypothetical. They tried the thing in the 1910s and 20s which led to a lot above people getting starved out and a war. I don't think they'll starve you out again (if you comply with your QR vax status)

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aTmAg said:

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

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Whether or not people go hungry solely depends on if there is enough food. If there is not enough food, then we can print everybody UBI checks of $10 Trillion each and it won't matter. People can't eat UBI checks.

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Of course this is all hypothetical. They tried the thing in the 1910s and 20s which led to a lot above people getting starved out and a war. I don't think they'll starve you out again (if you comply with your QR vax status)

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There is nothing hypothetical about math. Every American could have 20 vaccines each and the QR to prove it, but if there is not enough food than people will starve. It doesn't matter what the government does at that point.

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

---

Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

---

You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

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Whether or not people go hungry solely depends on if there is enough food. If there is not enough food, then we can print everybody UBI checks of $10 Trillion each and it won't matter. People can't eat UBI checks.

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Of course this is all hypothetical. They tried the thing in the 1910s and 20s which led to a lot above people getting starved out and a war. I don't think they'll starve you out again (if you comply with your QR vax status)

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There is nothing hypothetical about math. Every American could have 20 vaccines each and the QR to prove it, but if there is not enough food than people will starve. It doesn't matter what the government does at that point.

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"Enough food"? That's your argument? Where is all the food gonna go? Are you trying to do "communist countries don't have food because my tv told me so" argument?

You will have access to food with your QR vax code which will be linked to you ability to travel as well

The end game is 2 more weeks

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The end game is 2 more weeks

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Alot of people forget the boiling frog metaphor. Or they just don't care about getting boiled

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

---

Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

---

The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

---

You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

---

Whether or not people go hungry solely depends on if there is enough food. If there is not enough food, then we can print everybody UBI checks of $10 Trillion each and it won't matter. People can't eat UBI checks.

---

Of course this is all hypothetical. They tried the thing in the 1910s and 20s which led to a lot above people getting starved out and a war. I don't think they'll starve you out again (if you comply with your QR vax status)

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There is nothing hypothetical about math. Every American could have 20 vaccines each and the QR to prove it, but if there is not enough food than people will starve. It doesn't matter what the government does at that point.

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"Enough food"? That's your argument? Where is all the food gonna go? Are you trying to do "communist countries don't have food because my tv told me so" argument?

You will have access to food with your QR vax code which will be linked to you ability to travel as well

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Currently, we don't produce enough stuff. That is why we keep setting trade deficit records. We import the stuff we need in exchange for dollars that we print. So dollars are chasing goods over the entire world. When THE crash occurs, the value of the dollar will start to plummet. People everywhere will unload their dollars. They will do so by buying stuff. There is one place in the world that MUST use dollars. That is the USA. So most of those dollars will come flooding back. (Meaning that foreigners will be buying everything in America that is not nailed down. Including food.)

Though it is included, I was using food a metaphor for pretty much everything. We will have very few things to share among very many people. And UBI or QR vax codes won't change any of that. The only thing that will is Americans producing more stuff again.

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when dems have cemented their destruction of our capitalist system, our voting system, the economy, have implemented UBI, universal free voting rights, removed most private property ownership opened the border to the dreck of Central and South America, and implemented digital currency.

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This, plus the elimination of public religious expression. Primarily Christianity, but I'm sure this will extend to others.

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I think we are going to have an economic collapse of monumental proportions. The bond market will collapse and the government will no longer be able to borrow money that they do not print. People dependent on entitlement checks will either get checks that are worth nothing due to inflation or will stop getting checks altogether. At that moment, there will no carrot that the democrats can dangle in front of them anymore. The near unanimous consensus will be "what is the government doing for me anymore?"

At that moment, secession movements will become serious. Even if the feds wanted to stop it they would not have the resources to do so. It will be like conference realignment. States will pick and choose what secession movement to jump into. Some conservative some liberal.

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Keep dreaming. You will have to QR code vax status to buy goods. Very soon. I like the idea of secession and I would vote for it. But voting doesn't really matter anymore (as we saw less than a year ago if anyone remember).

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The votes will be on a state by state level. And if they are holding a vote at all, that means the ones in charge want secession, and they will do whatever it takes to make it legit including requiring picture ID, fingerprints, or whatever. There would be nothing the feds could do to stop it, since they would be worried about appeasing pissed off federal employees who's pensions are worth nothing among a million other problems.

Just realize that during a depression that is far worse than the Great Depression, things will be TOTALLY different than they are right now.

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Yea you are doing fan fiction. I'm telling you the script

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You are too short sighted to recognize our situation. When a huge portion of the population is going hungry things become different. Every single person who depends on government checks will suddenly get none of that. If you think they are just going to sit back and say "meh.. no biggie" then you are delusional.

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Bro have you not been informed of the QR code? It will be linked to your vax status but it will also give your your UBI allowance so you don't go hungry. All of this has been in the works for awhile, way before anyone heard about the deadly coronavirus

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You think that UBI would keep people from going hungry?

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Well see. I guess it depends on whether they spend it on food or air Jordan's

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Whether or not people go hungry solely depends on if there is enough food. If there is not enough food, then we can print everybody UBI checks of $10 Trillion each and it won't matter. People can't eat UBI checks.

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Of course this is all hypothetical. They tried the thing in the 1910s and 20s which led to a lot above people getting starved out and a war. I don't think they'll starve you out again (if you comply with your QR vax status)

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There is nothing hypothetical about math. Every American could have 20 vaccines each and the QR to prove it, but if there is not enough food than people will starve. It doesn't matter what the government does at that point.

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"Enough food"? That's your argument? Where is all the food gonna go? Are you trying to do "communist countries don't have food because my tv told me so" argument?

You will have access to food with your QR vax code which will be linked to you ability to travel as well

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Currently, we don't produce enough stuff. That is why we keep setting trade deficit records. We import the stuff we need in exchange for dollars that we print. So dollars are chasing goods over the entire world. When THE crash occurs, the value of the dollar will start to plummet. People everywhere will unload their dollars. They will do so by buying stuff. There is one place in the world that MUST use dollars. That is the USA. So most of those dollars will come flooding back. (Meaning that foreigners will be buying everything in America that is not nailed down. Including food.)

Though it is included, I was using food a metaphor for pretty much everything. We will have very few things to share among very many people. And UBI or QR vax codes won't change any of that. The only thing that will is Americans producing more stuff again.

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Ha any "trade deficits" you are claiming have been in effect for like 3 decades now. We signed away our trade advantage for cheap goods. Water under the bridge. We have food. Whether you will be able to purchase will depend on your vax status which you will scan with a QR code at the entry to every "private company"