Dr. Peter Hammond of Frontline Fellowship, who documented the Rwandan genocide, did mission work and was jailed in South Sudan and throughout east Africa, recounts the vicious racism of African Marxists. TLDW items:

In 1994, some 70,000 white South African commercial farmers produced enough food to feed over 100 million people. 26 years on, only 28,000 white farmers remain and can feed less than 58 million people.

After Rhodesian farmers were run out of their country, many took up residence in Zambia, where the government granted them land. They helped turn around the Zambian economy and that country's currency is the only currency in Africa revalued upward after being granted independence and emerging from domestic strife.

Every year, ANC incompetence at governance plus the birth rate adds 1 million to unemployment rolls. Currently, some 56 percent of South Africa is unemployed.

During one episode of attempted ethnic cleansing in Zimbabwe, a white farmer was shot by government troops in the leg. He retreated back to his house and during the ensuing firefight, killed 18 government soldiers. He ran out of ammunition and the government troops killed him. Neighboring white farmers were blocked by police from coming to his aid.

Communist China supplied some 300,000 machetes which sat in a warehouse waiting for Rwandan Hutus to appropriate them and slaughter the Tutsis. The UN's Kofi Annan prevented UN forces from seizing the machetes. Warren Christopher and the Clinton administration knew of the genocide to come and did nothing.

White farmers in South Africa now own only 22% of farmland, mostly in the semi arid northern cape area, yet are in great demand by Russia and Georgia, which offer them incentives for resettlement. (Think of what they could do with west Texas)

Watch only the first 40 minutes and many misconceptions you have about South Africa will be corrected in a fascinating account.

What makes you think we have poor farmers in West Texas? It's our growers and Ag industry that travels the world (including South Africa) teaching them how to grow the crops you just bragged about.

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What makes you think we have poor farmers in West Texas? It's our growers and Ag industry that travels the world (including South Africa) teaching them how to grow the crops you just bragged about.

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Yep. We just need more of them. Look at all the little towns that are deserted or barely exist anymore. South Africans would be a great fit in west Texas.

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What makes you think we have poor farmers in West Texas? It's our growers and Ag industry that travels the world (including South Africa) teaching them how to grow the crops you just bragged about.

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Yep. We just need more of them. Look at all the little towns that are deserted or barely exist anymore. South Africans would be a great fit in west Texas.

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Texas needs to start a program to bring them here and help them get started. Screw the Federal government. If they can ignore immigration law, we can too.

Nah S Africa is fine : b1 83

If a pathway for this existed, I know someone who'd come over tomorrow.

He had a job for 30 years, and was fired because of his skin color. However, his replacement couldn't so what he did...because he didn't have the experience. So, his former company hired him as a consultant to do his previous job, even though they were also paying his replacement. When the replacement found out, they had to fire him permanently.

He lives in a nicer neighborhood. But even it has become pretty unsafe, and the worry is that it'll be confiscated at some point.

Hammond discussed that amendment to their constitution: it allows government to seize property (not farmland) without compensation.

Yep.

It's ironic, because many like him didn't want to leave, and forfeit their life savings. Last I heard, they could take about 20k with them, and they gave up everything else.

But now, it looks like they'll end up having it all taken anyway. You could see it coming for years. Started with small things, spread to farms/land...now it's spreading to more. It's never enough. The smart ones got out years ago.

Very sad. It used to be such a beautiful country. It's quickly becoming a wasteland.

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What makes you think we have poor farmers in West Texas? It's our growers and Ag industry that travels the world (including South Africa) teaching them how to grow the crops you just bragged about.

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Yep. We just need more of them. Look at all the little towns that are deserted or barely exist anymore. South Africans would be a great fit in west Texas.

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That has nothing to do with "bad" farmers needing to be replaced by South Africans.

I'm sure they would be the ideal immigrants. Hard working, culturally significant contributions, and law abiding taxpayers. They would make great farm managers throughout the mid south and larger operations of high value crops. But the idea that West Texas farm towns are going away and this will reversed by them is absurd. It completely ignores the unique economics of American agriculture and the maximum economic utility of the western landscape that has caused this shift to fewer large operations with less labor, bigger scale equipment.

If you were serious about resettling them solely for farming, then rural Mexico is a realistic fit. You see the success of the Mennonite communities south of the border that voluntarily relocated.

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What makes you think we have poor farmers in West Texas? It's our growers and Ag industry that travels the world (including South Africa) teaching them how to grow the crops you just bragged about.

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Yep. We just need more of them. Look at all the little towns that are deserted or barely exist anymore. South Africans would be a great fit in west Texas.

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That has nothing to do with "bad" farmers needing to be replaced by South Africans.

I'm sure they would be the ideal immigrants. Hard working, culturally significant contributions, and law abiding taxpayers. They would make great farm managers throughout the mid south and larger operations of high value crops. But the idea that West Texas farm towns are going away and this will reversed by them is absurd. It completely ignores the unique economics of American agriculture and the maximum economic utility of the western landscape that has caused this shift to fewer large operations with less labor, bigger scale equipment.

If you were serious about resettling them solely for farming, then rural Mexico is a realistic fit. You see the success of the Mennonite communities south of the border that voluntarily relocated.

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Mexico might also be a good fit, but Afrikaners believe in the right to keep and bear arms, so that's a tough place for them to be, especially with Mexican lawlessness and government corruption. They would be trading one problem for another problem. But I think about all the small towns like Guthrie, McAdoo or even Comanche, Goldthwaite or Ranger. These towns could stand an influx of entrepreneurs with a more global experience. It doesn't have to be agriculture, but could be if they found a market niche.

Hopefully they salt the land and destroy any equipment left behind that is not sold

I'd give them refugee status, simply because they're good hard working people with transferrable skills (farming or other). Many who would love to come over are middle class, educated people having their lives confiscated.

But given the way most of these people would vote, there is very little chance it would ever happen.

Wouldn't it be nice though, for once, to welcome people like this here...instead of the dependent masses we bend over backwards to allow in?

Agree 100% with your post. Little West Texas towns are not dying due to lack of farmers, nor lack of knowledge on the part of present farmers. It's economics, mechanization, and climate.

Towns up on the plains, in the Panhandle, are at about the same population they were 50 years ago. But the number of farmers in each town is maybe 10% of of what it would have been in 1971. The ones left are working huge acreages. The towns are simply bedroom communities for the towns like Lubbock and Amarillo

Off the Caprock, in the Rolling Plains, towns like Quitaque and Turkey are almost ghost towns, they are too far away from even the smaller "big towns" like Plainview or Childress, to be in commuting distance. Look at their Wikipedia entries. Their peak populations were in the 1930s. Economics killed the farming in those areas, not lack of skill or knowledge.

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But I think about all the small towns like Guthrie, McAdoo or even Comanche, Goldthwaite or Ranger. These towns could stand an influx of entrepreneurs with a more global experience. It doesn't have to be agriculture, but could be if they found a market niche.

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Your heart is in the right place, but if there were markets, jobs, or Ag opportunities in towns like Comanche, people would be pouring out of Houston and DFW to set up shop there. We have tons of American entrepreneurs who would love the small town life.

For most, the jobs are just not there.

They would be relegated to the same status as Cubans, unfortunately. Meanwhile, open borders exist for Haitians and Latinos.

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Every year, ANC incompetence at governance plus the birth rate adds 1 million to unemployment rolls. Currently, some 56 percent of South Africa is unemployed.

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Had to look this up because it's shocking. Another source:

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The expanded definition of unemployment, including people who have stopped looking for a work, was at 43.2%, up from 42.6% in the prior period. Also, the youth unemployment rate, measuring job-seekers between 15 and 24 years old, hit a new record high of 63.3%. source: Statistics South Africa

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Good lord. If you are white, it's time to abandon your wealth and get the hell out if you value your life. I know that's easy for me to say from the comfort of my chair, but my goodness this will 100% end poorly for whites there.

Fun fact: the Rwandan genocide museum in Kigali was funded by the Belgians and the Clinton Foundation. Literally felt bile rise in my throat when I read that plaque.

Can some one post the "that escalated quickly" meme. Still don't know how to.

Strange question. Could these folks transfer their wealth into bitcoin and leave with more than the restrictions?

Was just about to post this. Problem is, I imagine many of them are "land rich but cash poor", and there is likely no market for the land. Who are you going to sell to for fair market value? A destitute peasant? No. Another white Afrikaner trying to get out or at least who sees the writing on the wall? No. That leaves you with selling to an ANC crony who knows you're in a weak negotiating position.

I'm thinking it's like trying to get full value for your property as a Jew being evicted to the ghetto in 1940 Warsaw.

Amd you'd have still been a lot better off bolting that staying in that scenario too.

I can see the value the farmers of South Africa would bring to Texas, arid areas of the west and even the Southeastern farms. I have had the opportunity to work with one such person, for over 20 years, who currently lives in Florida. Small towns have died or remained small for many reasons, I bet the OB and to a lesser extent the politics board is littered with those of us who grew up on a working farm or ranch that that now live on a few acres of less and if they still own land it is a hobby farm or hunting ranch. But one reason they died is because the kids wanted to leave and get jobs that were more financially stable with ac and a pretty fixed 40-50 hour work week schedule. It's not solely been due to mechanization/automation, economies of scale and changes in farm structure.

I left the farm, but continue to work in the ag industry, because milking cows at 1 am on Christmas morning or pulling a calf at 4 am on your birthday before school just isn't fun. I am sure others have similar and worse farm and ranch experiences. But look at the off the boat Dutch in the dairy industry, granted they have some financial support that would be different than the South Afrikaans, but many are capable of being successful reasonably quickly. I see no reason as to why farmers from South Africa could not find some success. And more importantly they are willing and enjoy working in what most Americans consider a fairly isolated environment under harsh environmental conditions.

We'll see a minor resurgence of small towns after SpaceX's Starlink dishes go mobile and digital nomads can stray further from the big cities.

The AVERAGE IQ of subsaharan Africans is 80. That means half the population is BELOW 80. Seeing that low IQ and propensity for violence are HIGHLY correlated tells you everything you need to know about the powder keg in South Africa. Add Marxism into the mix and the situation becomes EXPLOSIVE.

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We'll see a minor resurgence of small towns after SpaceX's Starlink dishes go mobile and digital nomads can stray further from the big cities.

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My thinking was similar: these little towns would be safe havens for Afrikaner refugees. If they could create farmland from thornbush and keep it profitable after 100 years, I don't doubt they could develop a niche. Typically, Afrikaners would be a tight knit group with mutual support networks, with high intragroup trust and marketable skills. Face it: if they can forge careers in a country which openly discriminates against them and places institutional barriers to job retention, they have a great chance of succeeding in a region (west Texas, the Great Plains or the inter mountain West) which has parallel experiences and cultural values. IMHO, Texas pioneers and the Afrikaners Voortrekkers have virtually the same experiences in subduing savage opposition and imposing Christian-derived civilization on their areas of settlement. They fought alongside us in most wars, including Korea until the 1960s when they were forced to fight massive Communist aggression funded by the USSR and fought by their Cuban and Angolan proxies.