https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/may/migrants-crossing-u-s-southern-border-spike-900-violent-criminals-captured-in-the-mix

With migrants entering these areas. Some are calling for a return to Mexican jurisdiction because Mexican authorities better represent the makeup of the population.

Should the 14th amendment's naturalization clause be repealed? When will the states finally decide to act?

Edit: under national arbitration act Mexican law is already enforceable in arbitration in Texas and California. Only a matter of time until our courts can't hear cases in their own territory.

Mexico can't afford the purchase price

Icecream_Ag said:

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Mexico can't afford the purchase price

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Haha its funny that you think they will buy it.

It's called the Reconquista and they've been working at it for decades.

The US Government is willfully allowing the Southwest United States to be irreversibly demographically changed

codker92 said:

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https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/may/migrants-crossing-u-s-southern-border-spike-900-violent-criminals-captured-in-the-mix

With migrants entering these areas. Some are calling for a return to Mexican jurisdiction because Mexican authorities better represent the makeup of the population.

Should the 14th amendment's naturalization clause be repealed? When will the states finally decide to act?

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Yes, because it was never intended to be interpreted in the manner that SCOTUS did. The drafter of the Amendment specifically stated that it was not intended to allow anchor babies.

States won't act because nobody is willing to risk their political career on repealing that aspect of the amendment, and there wouldn't be enough support from state legislatures to create a new amendment anyway. Plu, no guarantee that SCOTUS wouldn't shoot it down because of precedent.

Rapier108 said:

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It's called the Reconquista and they've been working at it for decades.

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Sounds like they have an open door. Our men are fighting for oil overseas that we already have in Texas.

I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

And he may have been a unionists lefty. But Ceasar Chavez had lots of strong feelings against illegal immigrants and a desire to keep from adopting anything close to what his parents fled in Mexico years earlier.

policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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Have any data to support that? Sounds like speculation.

policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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When you import foreign people, you import foreign culture. When the demographics change, that is an inevitability.

policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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from what I've seen is the second and third generations that want it, not the people actually coming in right now

Icecream_Ag said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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from what I've seen is the second and third generations that want it, not the people actually coming in right now

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Imagine how easy it is to brainwash people while you are teaching them a second language that their parents are trying to learn at the same time. That is the current situation with Marxist educators and the "birth right" children.

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policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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When you import foreign people, you import foreign culture. When the demographics change, that is an inevitability.

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Sometimes this is a good thing

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gbaby23 said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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When you import foreign people, you import foreign culture. When the demographics change, that is an inevitability.

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Sometimes this is a good thing

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By the looks of the American decline during the past 100 years, not really.

Full circle. Us to them Them to us.

gbaby23 said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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gbaby23 said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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When you import foreign people, you import foreign culture. When the demographics change, that is an inevitability.

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Sometimes this is a good thing

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By the looks of the American decline during the past 100 years, not really.

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Well no tamales at Christmas for you

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codker92 said:

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https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2021/may/migrants-crossing-u-s-southern-border-spike-900-violent-criminals-captured-in-the-mix

With migrants entering these areas. Some are calling for a return to Mexican jurisdiction because Mexican authorities better represent the makeup of the population.

Should the 14th amendment's naturalization clause be repealed? When will the states finally decide to act?

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Yes, because it was never intended to be interpreted in the manner that SCOTUS did. The drafter of the Amendment specifically stated that it was not intended to allow anchor babies.

States won't act because nobody is willing to risk their political career on repealing that aspect of the amendment, and there wouldn't be enough support from state legislatures to create a new amendment anyway. Plu, no guarantee that SCOTUS wouldn't shoot it down because of precedent.

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For the record I agree with you with regard to the political implications of modifying the 14th. having said that if it were done via amendment SCOTUS would have no voice as a ratified amendment is by default Constitutional. This is why I almost always go back to amendments rather than legislation. If it's an important issue let's pursue an amendment. Democrats of course dismiss that route because they could never get a liberal amendment ratified as they hold less than 40% of the state legislatures. Roe v Wade is a perfect example. Abortion could never be ratified as an Amendment. If we really want to see change to the right the red states are going to have to go the Convention of the States route and force it to happen.

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Salute The Marines said:

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gbaby23 said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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When you import foreign people, you import foreign culture. When the demographics change, that is an inevitability.

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Sometimes this is a good thing

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By the looks of the American decline during the past 100 years, not really.

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Our decline isn't the result of Mexican immigration. It's a direct result of white liberals and their thirst for power. It's a direct result of all of the following:

The 16th Amendment
The 17th Amendment
The Federal Reserve Act
The creation of the welfare state
Abandoning the gold standard

All of the above created this mess, immigration is just people taking advantage of our stupidity.

I don't disagree about the flood of people coming over the southern borders but that pretty colored map
is just inaccurate.

I looked up only 2 counties.
Wharton county Texas had 72% white in the 2010 census.
Clark County Nevada had 61% white in the 2010 census.

The map indicates 40% range.

It would not be that hard to be accurate and still show the effects.

LOYAL AG said:

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gbaby23 said:

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Salute The Marines said:

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gbaby23 said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I can't speak for SoCal immigrants.

But it's becoming increasingly more clear that more and more of the SoTex and SoFlo immigrants don't have much of an interest in turning their new Homeland into their old Homeland.

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When you import foreign people, you import foreign culture. When the demographics change, that is an inevitability.

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Sometimes this is a good thing

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By the looks of the American decline during the past 100 years, not really.

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Our decline isn't the result of Mexican immigration. It's a direct result of white liberals and their thirst for power. It's a direct result of all of the following:

The 16th Amendment
The 17th Amendment
The Federal Reserve Act
The creation of the welfare state
Abandoning the gold standard

All of the above created this mess, immigration is just people taking advantage of our stupidity.

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Immigration has also been a major cause of social decline. As diversity increases, societal trust decreases. Low-skilled laborers flooding the country en masses has had demonstrable negative effects on the economy. Different demographics have different voting patterns and Mexican immigrants overwhelmingly vote Democrat.

Your points are valid, but immigration has been a major issue and overwhelmingly negative.

Butter1 said:

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I don't disagree about the flood of people coming over the southern borders but that pretty colored map
is just inaccurate.

I looked up only 2 counties.
Wharton county Texas had 72% white in the 2010 census.
Clark County Nevada had 61% white in the 2010 census.

The map indicates 40% range.

It would not be that hard to be accurate and still show the effects.

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Were you taking the demographics of "White" or "non-Hispanic White"?

Look at what unrestricted immigration did to once solid red Cali.

The majority of the conservative Hispanics are already in TX and Florida. The liberal ones in Cali.

Eventually they will become the demographic majority and TX will be just like Cali.

Conservatives are committing political suicide, and are too dumb to see it happening. All in the name of political correctness and being nice to brown people. TX will become a liberal hellhole just like CA or like the countrys these immigrants come from.

Culture comes from people. Import those people you'll get the same culture.

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With migrants entering these areas. Some are calling for a return to Mexican jurisdiction because Mexican authorities better represent the makeup of the population.

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OP, you think all these migrants fleeing Mexico and other countries want to be governed by Mexico?

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Butter1 said:

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I don't disagree about the flood of people coming over the southern borders but that pretty colored map
is just inaccurate.

I looked up only 2 counties.
Wharton county Texas had 72% white in the 2010 census.
Clark County Nevada had 61% white in the 2010 census.

The map indicates 40% range.

It would not be that hard to be accurate and still show the effects.

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Where you taking the demographics of "White" or "non-Hispanic White"?

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That sounds like a reasonable explanation, but the map still can't be right. The lower Rio Grande Valley was 90+% non-Hispanic White in 1940? Not on your life. 1940 looks like "White", and the later map only "non-Hispanic White".

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gbaby23 said:

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Butter1 said:

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I don't disagree about the flood of people coming over the southern borders but that pretty colored map
is just inaccurate.

I looked up only 2 counties.
Wharton county Texas had 72% white in the 2010 census.
Clark County Nevada had 61% white in the 2010 census.

The map indicates 40% range.

It would not be that hard to be accurate and still show the effects.

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Where you taking the demographics of "White" or "non-Hispanic White"?

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That sounds like a reasonable explanation, but the map still can't be right. The lower Rio Grande Valley was 90+% non-Hispanic White in 1940? Not on your life. 1940 looks like "White", and the later map only "non-Hispanic White".

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1940 was directly following the end of the Mexican Repatriation Act and before immigrants took advantage of WWII to come in while attention was diverted.

Lotta whites mad that hispanics are taking back their homeland, FYI Texas is more hispanic than it is white pendejos

hedge said:

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Lotta whites mad that hispanics are taking back their homeland, FYI Texas is more hispanic than it is white pendejos

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Hispanic's homeland? Is this Spain?

Mestizos are half hispanic and half Indian

To answer the OP - as long as there is a union.

Rapier108 said:

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It's called the Reconquista and they've been working at it for decades.

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Texas was part of Mexico for what? 12? 13 years? It was it's own country for almost as long, a part of Spain for longer, and a part of the US for nearly 2 centuries now.

Why do people not seem to know this?

hedge said:

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Mestizos are half hispanic and half Indian

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Smells like colonizers.

hedge said:

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Lotta whites mad that hispanics are taking back their homeland, FYI Texas is more hispanic than it is white pendejos

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See my post above. Texas was an independent country for almost as long as it was part of Mexico. And the "Mexico" it was a part of was basically just a bunch of warlords infighting over territory and power.

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Rapier108 said:

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It's called the Reconquista and they've been working at it for decades.

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Texas was part of Mexico for what? 12? 13 years? It was it's own country for almost as long, a part of Spain for longer, and a part of the US for nearly 2 centuries now.

Why do people not seem to know this?

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It's hedge

And yet hispanics have lived here longer than whites, why do you not seem to know this

Whites move to mexican dominated colony

Is upset that mexicans live there and are the dominant culture