SidsBurnerAccount said:

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Pine tree riots is the best source for South African rioting footage

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Google has failed me. Can you link it?

https://twitter.com/pine_tree_riots

At the end of apartheid, South Africa had 6 nuclear weapons and was completing a 7th. The government decided to give up the nukes prior to holding a general election. In hindsight, it would have been better to divide the country and declare a new state in the western and northern cape areas where the greatest concentration of Afrikaners and Coloured citizens were located. The rest of the country, including the developed eastern cape, KwaZulu-Natal and Gauteng would belong to the ANC dominated government. Might have delayed the inevitable ethnic warfare and allowed the ANC to steal from its supporters instead of the most productive citizens.

flashplayer said:

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This riot has everything. Hippos, casket thieving, and Indians with baseball bats delivering retribution beat downs. Even white dudes that couldn't shoot the ocean from the beach. Show me to the sharks with laser beams videos.

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Time for the AWB to step back up

TChaney said:

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His ancestors spoke to him😅😂
Out of all the things he could of took😂this man is Leardership🙆‍♂️one of a kind indeed✊👊#ShutdownSA istore justice Jafta Julius sis Ouma pic.twitter.com/HWfX655SBP

— Sego (@MonthatiPrince) July 12, 2021

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Resurrection of the dead, South African style.

I can't stand that sob. I would beat the absolute **** out of him if I saw him in public.

DamnGood86 said:

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Teach a man to fish, he will never go hungry.

Let a man steal a guitar, he will........well I am not really sure but maybe he can sing for his dinner.

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That is if he actually knows how to play that guitar for most thefts are opportunistic.

He can always use the guitar as a club to steal that dinner.

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In hindsight, it would have been better to divide the country and declare a new state in the western and northern cape areas where the greatest concentration of Afrikaners and Coloured citizens were located.

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Seems like this would have been the best solution for everyone involved.

Looting the gun shops now.....never a good sign that things will return to normal soon.

not sure about the second part, but the gun store part is true

KZN gun store looted. #SouthAfrica https://t.co/PDdX88Nc1V pic.twitter.com/usLFoPwtBh

— pine_tree_riots (@pine_tree_riots) July 13, 2021

Win At Life said:

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TChaney said:

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His ancestors spoke to him😅😂
Out of all the things he could of took😂this man is Leardership🙆‍♂️one of a kind indeed✊👊#ShutdownSA istore justice Jafta Julius sis Ouma pic.twitter.com/HWfX655SBP

— Sego (@MonthatiPrince) July 12, 2021

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Resurrection of the dead, South African style.

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When I saw that it instantly made me think of this.

Maybe he and his buddies are going to get some practice in for the days ahead.

Interesting situation with the Indian community. The Indian navy evacuated Indian nationals from Lebanon in 2006 and from Libya in 2011 or 2012, and while the million or so ethnic Indians aren't Indian nationals, Modi may feel compelled to do something if the violence keeps up.

He has an old Kiev class carrier, a pretty big amphibious transport dock, and a swarm of subs, destroyers and frigates which are reasonably well maintained, so he has some power projection capabilities.

I'm not talking about a war here, necessarily, but a big rescue operation. Question is whether India wants a million or so refugees. Possibly not. On the other hand, maybe Modi wants to be seen as a player on the world stage, particularly with the constant scuffles with China.

GTdad said:

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Interesting situation with the Indian community. The Indian navy evacuated Indian nationals from Lebanon in 2006 and from Libya in 2011 or 2012, and while the million or so ethnic Indians aren't Indian nationals, Modi may feel compelled to do something if the violence keeps up.

He has an old Kiev class carrier, a pretty big amphibious transport dock, and a swarm of subs, destroyers and frigates which are reasonably well maintained, so he has some power projection capabilities.

I'm not talking about a war here, necessarily, but a big rescue operation. Question is whether India wants a million or so refugees. Possibly not. On the other hand, maybe Modi wants to be seen as a player on the world stage, particularly with the constant scuffles with China.

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Organized, well prepared Indians will hold their own against looters just wanting to tear shlt up. There is nothing organized about the rioters. They just want to destroy something they don't have.

Are these Indians better off than the ones in India proper? Might get a ready-made influx of high potential individuals.

YouBet said:

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Who was our resident poster who was constantly defending SA and always told us it's a totally secure country with no issues?

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I wasn't going to dignify this BS post with an answer, but since multiple posters have wrongly put words in my mouth, and they've chosen to believe the MSM (ironic for F16) over people actually IN SA, why not? Won't make any difference..

1. I never said "all was well in SA". I simply said the "slaughter" of white farmers was in certain areas, not nation wide. SA is a big country. Downtown Minneapolis and Portland are not the same as Downtown Omaha or Des Moines. California and New York are not the same as Texas and South Dakota.
2. I also said (and it was true) that white lands were not being randomly taken away. Lands foreclosed on by BANKS were being parceled out. Every attempt to legislatively confiscate land has been shot down so far.
3. I provided contact info for my PAs, outfitters, and farmers so that certain posters could contact them and call them liars to their faces, but of course, none did.
4. Here are messages from my contacts from last night:
Q - Are you folks safe and sound with all of what's going on there?
Answers:

"Just in the cities we 100% fine here" - large outfitter and farmer with 250k acres, car dealerships, and import/export business

"Hi *****. Hope you're doing well. Yes everything is fine here thanks. Luckily the riots and looting are slightly more north east from us. About 500miles away. But its really bad there. Don't you feel like bringing a few ARs over for us " PH

"All still quiet for now our end but some crazy shift in Joburg and Durban at the moment. There some crazy **** happening but hopefully it won't boil over to us but everyone is on high alert." Farmer and PH. He has considered leaving.

No doubt the rioting and looting over the arrest of a crooked Black former leader is serious, but there are other stories to be told by those who live there in other areas, and whose families have been there for way over a century. No doubt there are people in SA who think our entire country is one giant BLM and ANTIFA protest based on what they've seen.

Only time will tell if this settles down. Feel free to flame away and call me a liar again. After all, you've seen the situation on TV via MSM.

PearlJammin said:

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GTdad said:

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Interesting situation with the Indian community. The Indian navy evacuated Indian nationals from Lebanon in 2006 and from Libya in 2011 or 2012, and while the million or so ethnic Indians aren't Indian nationals, Modi may feel compelled to do something if the violence keeps up.

He has an old Kiev class carrier, a pretty big amphibious transport dock, and a swarm of subs, destroyers and frigates which are reasonably well maintained, so he has some power projection capabilities.

I'm not talking about a war here, necessarily, but a big rescue operation. Question is whether India wants a million or so refugees. Possibly not. On the other hand, maybe Modi wants to be seen as a player on the world stage, particularly with the constant scuffles with China.

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Organized, well prepared Indians will hold their own against looters just wanting to tear shlt up. There is nothing organized about the rioters. They just want to destroy something they don't have.

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I know nothing about the gun laws in SA, but are the Indian nationals allowed (or likely) to actually be "well prepared"?

I won't call you a liar and I don't believe I have previously. I absolutely believe your friends here and, yes, I was being snarky and probably a dick.

I just think that country is headed towards a bad outcome all around. They have major structural and societal issues there and it's not going to end well if you are white. The people there and here who have blown this off in the past and continue to are nave.

To your point on how our country is portrayed, we aren't headed in a positive direction either. It's only going to get worse here as well because of our own racial crap. Granted, our racial strife is strategic policy by the Democrats and leftist foreign agitators (Ex: Soros).

YouBet said:

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I won't call you a liar and I don't believe I have previously. I absolutely believe your friends here and, yes, I was being snarky and probably a dick.

I just think that country is headed towards a bad outcome all around. They have major structural and societal issues there and it's not going to end well if you are white. The people there and here who have blown this off in the past and continue to are nave.

To your point on how our country is portrayed, we aren't headed in a positive direction either. It's only going to get worse here as well because of our own racial crap. Granted, our racial strife is strategic policy by the Democrats and leftist foreign agitators (Ex: Soros).

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Sorry, didn't mean to call you out on that. I was told by other posters that "my guys" were lying just to get folks over there to spend money, and that "knowing some guys" held little weight compared to their infinite knowledge of SA via the MSM. There is a post on this thread mocking the concept of communicating directly with them.

B-1 83 said:

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YouBet said:

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Who was our resident poster who was constantly defending SA and always told us it's a totally secure country with no issues?

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I wasn't going to dignify this BS post with an answer, but since multiple posters have wrongly put words in my mouth, and they've chosen to believe the MSM (ironic for F16) over people actually IN SA, why not? Won't make any difference..

1. I never said "all was well in SA". I simply said the "slaughter" of white farmers was in certain areas, not nation wide. SA is a big country. Downtown Minneapolis and Portland are not the same as Downtown Omaha or Des Moines. California and New York are not the same as Texas and South Dakota.
2. I also said (and it was true) that white lands were not being randomly taken away. Lands foreclosed on by BANKS were being parceled out. Every attempt to legislatively confiscate land has been shot down so far.
3. I provided contact info for my PAs, outfitters, and farmers so that certain posters could contact them and call them liars to their faces, but of course, none did.
4. Here are messages from my contacts from last night:
Q - Are you folks safe and sound with all of what's going on there?
Answers:

"Just in the cities we 100% fine here" - large outfitter and farmer with 250k acres, car dealerships, and import/export business

"Hi *****. Hope you're doing well. Yes everything is fine here thanks. Luckily the riots and looting are slightly more north east from us. About 500miles away. But its really bad there. Don't you feel like bringing a few ARs over for us " PH

"All still quiet for now our end but some crazy shift in Joburg and Durban at the moment. There some crazy **** happening but hopefully it won't boil over to us but everyone is on high alert." Farmer and PH. He has considered leaving.

No doubt the rioting and looting over the arrest of a crooked Black former leader is serious, but there are other stories to be told by those who live there in other areas, and whose families have been there for way over a century. No doubt there are people in SA who think our entire country is one giant BLM and ANTIFA protest based on what they've seen.

Only time will tell if this settles down. Feel free to flame away and call me a liar again. After all, you've seen the situation on TV via MSM.

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A slight rebuttal.

Things are fine in Bryan / College Station and Texas for the most part, but things are far from OK in America as a whole.

That's a great post, and with more than the ring of truth in just how it addresses matter of scale. Like you said, to the outside world, most of America probably looks like a lawless Left lunatic asylum between the gender bending and CRT education and the race-baiting of the DEM-MSM Party. But except for long run by Democrat urban centers, its not really that way everywhere yet.

The most favorable thing in your post was "legislative attempts at confiscation" being shot down. Property foreclosed by banks is problematical in how that power might be used, but is still very different from random seizure and redistribution which is the impression many have been getting here.

https://vocaroo.com/19jH3oZm7y02

This audio is amazing. Cops are running out of ammo and private citizens are supplying them now. The military is doing nothing and they are saying that they are on their own with tens of thousands of looters coming directly for them. Horrible situation all around.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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https://vocaroo.com/19jH3oZm7y02

This audio is amazing. Cops are running out of ammo and private citizens are supplying them now. The military is doing nothing and they are saying that they are on their own with tens of thousands of looters coming directly for them. Horrible situation all around.

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That's the danger of what the Dems and Media here are unleashing. That could very well be the trajectory of major blue cities if a sense of lawlessness is not rolled back soon. Never disarm -- no matter what incidents (like if Denver had happened) occur.

Maybe the more conservative Asian nations might think that. But the limp-wristed libs in Europe probably view us as violent right wingers with a "white supremacy" problem.

It's all relative and I don't really care what any second rate nation thinks about the US or Texas.

hbtheduce said:

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Maybe the more conservative Asian nations might think that. But the limp-wristed libs in Europe probably view us as violent right wingers with a "white supremacy" problem.

It's all relative and I don't really care what any second rate nation thinks about the US or Texas.

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Agree. Actually don't care what a first rate one thinks either. Especially if news is their basis, and not some kind of overall look at the reality.

The Automobile Association has warned that if the Durban harbour is not operating - many parts of the country could face fuel shortages in the coming days.

— SAfm news (@SAfmnews) July 13, 2021

Durban port is shut down.

https://www.news24.com/fin24/Companies/Agribusiness/all-kzn-sugar-mills-now-shut-after-cane-farms-set-alight-citrus-exports-halted-as-riots-rage-on-20210713

Sugar cane farms on fire.

https://www.news24.com/citypress/news/durban-looting-aftermath-45-000-businesses-affected-r16-billion-in-lost-stock-and-damaged-infrastructure-20210714

45,000 business affected in Durban and destroyed.

If you want up to date info follow South Africa Reports on Telegram. They have tons of video and pictures.

Will you people quit feeding the troll?

It's a 4 day old account.

GTdad said:

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Interesting situation with the Indian community. The Indian navy evacuated Indian nationals from Lebanon in 2006 and from Libya in 2011 or 2012, and while the million or so ethnic Indians aren't Indian nationals, Modi may feel compelled to do something if the violence keeps up.

He has an old Kiev class carrier, a pretty big amphibious transport dock, and a swarm of subs, destroyers and frigates which are reasonably well maintained, so he has some power projection capabilities.

I'm not talking about a war here, necessarily, but a big rescue operation. Question is whether India wants a million or so refugees. Possibly not. On the other hand, maybe Modi wants to be seen as a player on the world stage, particularly with the constant scuffles with China.

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Very interesting point. Durban is the largest port in southern Africa and has a large Indian population.

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Nagler said:

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Will you people quit feeding the troll?

It's a 4 day old account.

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I've posted here for a decade. Apparently if you say anything to BallerStaf you get banned now.

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Yep, it is not worth it. Used to be a brief timeout, but now all bets are off.

BAP Enthusiast said:

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https://vocaroo.com/19jH3oZm7y02

This audio is amazing. Cops are running out of ammo and private citizens are supplying them now. The military is doing nothing and they are saying that they are on their own with tens of thousands of looters coming directly for them. Horrible situation all around.

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"Why would the average person need thousands of rounds of ammunition"

Now you see why democraps want to restrict ammunition sales.

Muslims are organizing.

SidsBurnerAccount said:

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Muslims are organizing.

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Everyone is organizing. Indians, whites, Middle Easterners are all against the blacks. They have no choice. It's either that are die in rioting and looting. The scale of the looting is unprecedented.