Mounting evidence on the efficacy of Ivermectin against COVID

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3:31p, 6/20/21
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I am not sure why it is important for the MSM to have COVID patients die without Ivermectin in their system. The authors of the current pub below advocate for the use of Ivermectin much better than I can.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Ivermectin_for_Prevention_and_Treatment_of.98040.pdf
Andrew Bryant, MSc, Theresa A. Lawrie, MBBCh, PhD,Therese Dowswell, PhD,2 Edmund J. Fordham, PhD, Scott Mitchell, MBChB, MRCS,3 Sarah R. Hill, PhD,1 and Tony C. Tham, MD, FRCP. Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines. American Journal of Therapeutics 0, e1e27

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Given the evidence of efficacy, safety, low cost, and current death rates, ivermectin is likely to have an impact on health and economic outcomes of the pandemic across many countries. Ivermectin is not a new and experimental drug with an unknown safety profile. It is a WHO "Essential Medicine" already used in several different indications, in colossal cumulative volumes. Corticosteroids have become an accepted standard of care in COVID-19, based on a single RCT of dexamethasone.1 If a single RCT is sufficient for the adoption of dexamethasone, then a fortiori the evidence of 2 dozen RCTs supports the adoption of ivermectin. Ivermectin is likely to be an equitable, acceptable, and feasible global intervention against COVID-19. Health professionals should strongly consider its use, in both treatment and prophylaxis

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3:36p, 6/20/21
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!
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Can't make trillions off Ivermectin (patent is expired) and they wanted as many deaths as possible during Trumps time
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Yet I had to practically beg my PCP to give it to me when I got to the point of nearing hospitalization.

Medical professionals are the biggest frauds on the planet. I say that as someone who works with them daily.
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Oh you will now be called an anti-Vaxxer by the guinea pigs.
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3:57p, 6/20/21
We just saw one political party try as hard as they could to covertly kill a bunch of people just so they could get their political opponent out of office.

Time to call a spade a spade.
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4:00p, 6/20/21
Remember how in the early 2000's, every few months a new "computer virus" would go around, people would get a little perturbed, and within a few days McAfee would have the "cure?"

COVID feels like that
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In reply to flashplayer • 4:06p, 6/20/21
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flashplayer said:
Yet I had to practically beg my PCP to give it to me when I got to the point of nearing hospitalization.

Medical professionals are the biggest frauds on the planet. I say that as someone who works with them daily.


This is why a lot of people go to tractor supply to get it. I've lost any faith I had in the medical field after this past year. Its clear most doctors could be replaced with government bureaucrats and you could get the same level of care.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 4:07p, 6/20/21
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We just saw one political party try as hard as they could to covertly kill murder a bunch of people just so they could get their political opponent out of office.

Time to call a spade a spade.


FIFY. We are now officially a banana republic where a political party doesn't hesitate to "take out" anyone who might stand in the way of satiating their thirst for power. The loss of more than a few innocent bystanders is just collateral damage and is acceptable as long as it meets their objective.
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Bucillamine also had good results and long-established safety profile (decades) for arthritis. But been in limbo in phase 3 for use with covid... Wouldn't be super expensive and big pharma doesn't get a cut. So yup.
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In reply to flashplayer • 4:19p, 6/20/21
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Yet I had to practically beg my PCP to give it to me when I got to the point of nearing hospitalization.

Medical professionals are the biggest frauds on the planet. I say that as someone who works with them daily.
99% of doctors prescribe the drugs that are approved by their practice group at the rate negotiated with the insurance companies.

Its a massive shell game of kickbacks and rebates.
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FDA is corrupt as hell. There's several drugs that have been out there for a year, known to be safe, and they've held off EUA while mainstreaming the vaccine pipeline. So many unnecessary deaths.
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Don't forget the opioid crisis that was 100% caused by big Pharma slingin' heroin in pill form to the masses.

Doctors were getting sneaky kickbacks and big pharma made record profits.

Big pharma made dope fiends out of millions of people and caused hundreds of thousands of deaths.

Thats a fact.
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In reply to Kvetch • 6:44p, 6/20/21
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DallasGrad18 said:
FDA is corrupt as hell. There's several drugs that have been out there for a year, known to be safe, and they've held off EUA while mainstreaming the vaccine pipeline. So many unnecessary deaths.

Exactly. An EUA can't be approved of an effective treatment is available.
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Just to show you how decidedly against people's well being the establishment is:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/17/health/covid-pill-antiviral.amp.html

They're giving billions to Merck to develop a new antiviral.

Merck had the patent on ivermectin before it expired.

They'd rather waste more taxpayer money and risk more lives on an experiment than give you ivermectin.

Wife took it when Covid lingered. Better in 24 hours.
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As recently as two weeks ago, InfectionAg tripled down on Ivermectin being a waste of time.

CRIMINAL
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The truth is so confusing!
X was born on October 28, 2022 and should be a national holiday.
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In reply to Oak Tree • 8:25p, 6/20/21
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Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.
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In reply to Oak Tree • 8:28p, 6/20/21
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Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


Trump suggested HCQ. Fauci didn't back him up and also didn't suggest any other treatment. The Lancet published an obviously fake article that said HCQ was ineffective, which was retracted two weeks later. Fauci, the MSM and big tech colluded to make sure no one got properly treated by censoring posts that referred to treatments. It was a political hit job and many, many extra Americans died because of it.
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Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?

The Dems are mental midgets.
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Wow. Ivermectin used as prophactic in medical workers resulted in zero contractions of Covid where the control group was 50%.
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In reply to Pookers • 8:54p, 6/20/21
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Pookers said:
Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.


I think Trump's DOJ should have investigated and prosecuted Fauci. Trump decided to put him front and center instead. I'm surprised anyone can defend that.

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In reply to Oak Tree • 8:57p, 6/20/21
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Oak Tree said:
Pookers said:
Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.


I think Trump's DOJ should have investigated and prosecuted Fauci. Trump decided to put him front and center instead. I'm surprised anyone can defend that.



Trump is one person. We the people failed him by expecting him to save the republic when its our damn fault for sitting on our asses for decades voting for establishment goons. We are to blame, not Trump. WE need to get busy draining the swamp starting locally.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 9:05p, 6/20/21
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Stat Monitor Repairman said:
flashplayer said:
Yet I had to practically beg my PCP to give it to me when I got to the point of nearing hospitalization.

Medical professionals are the biggest frauds on the planet. I say that as someone who works with them daily.
99% of doctors prescribe the drugs that are approved by their practice group at the rate negotiated with the insurance companies.

Its a massive shell game of kickbacks and rebates.
this is why i am going to find a new dermatologist. they kept trying to get me some name brand stuff and use a coupon for it instead of insurance and get it from some pharmacy on another town and get it delivered, telling me it was some new drug that wasnt covered by insurance and would cost hundreds without going to this pharmacy. that just wreaks of fraud.

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In reply to Oak Tree • 9:08p, 6/20/21
Oak Tree said:
Pookers said:
Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.


I think Trump's DOJ should have investigated and prosecuted Fauci. Trump decided to put him front and center instead. I'm surprised anyone can defend that.

Was it really Trump's DOJ? Sure seems like very few around Trump went to work genuinely on things he was pushing. They sure as hell didn't back him up when he was speaking proven truths. Trump can't prosecute anyone and it was proven over and over again that when he tried to push his DOJ into action, he was met with blunt force. Wake up Oak.
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9:10p, 6/20/21
The fog of war creates confusion, be it intentional or unintentional. This also applies to the "Covid Battle" since it was an unprecedented event compared to the norm. At this point you have to ask yourself who and what can you trust? How much of the fog of war is intentionally being created? To constantly have the media, politicians, and social media go out of their way to censor, vilify and shut down any alternative should be concerning.

If Covid is so damm bad (and it is to certain segments of the population), what problem would someone have trying rx drugs such as ivermectin, Plaquenil, Colchicine, steroids, etc.? Instead, we where fed a steady dose of how dangerous these drugs were. Yet we told patients there was nothing to do but go home and if they got worse go to the ER.

When the **** hits the fan sometimes you have to think outside the box. Extraordinary times call for extraordinary measures. Seemed the powers to be had no problem enacting extraordinary measures such as shutting down businesses (of course HEB, Wal Mart, Home Depot, airlines, etc. were allowed to remain open), closing schools, enacting draconian orders against citizens, letting people die alone without their loved ones or NH directives like we saw in New York.

This entire Covid crisis has been compromised by nothing but bull **** propaganda!

I said this previously in another thread and I stand by it.

"Ivermectin, Colchicine, Dexa or Prednisone, as well as several other medications (Rx and OTC) had a profound affect on the outpatient side (and ultimately the inpatient side) in both towns I work in. I feel the psychological benefit alone to patients was worth it - the fear and helplessness of being told medically there is nothing to do but go home and wait takes a psychological toll. There are still docs that are pissed off at us because they feel we overstepped our place as hospitalist by encouraging the "rogue" clinics to use the outpatient regiment - which they did not agree with and will still argue that the "data" does not support it. I really do not give a **** at this point.

Don't even get me going on the hoops we had to jump through to establish decent inpatient treatment protocols."

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In reply to Oak Tree • 9:12p, 6/20/21
Oak Tree said:
Pookers said:
Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.


I think Trump's DOJ should have investigated and prosecuted Fauci. Trump decided to put him front and center instead. I'm surprised anyone can defend that.



Only so much Trump can do. Seemed like every few months he was finding a new member of his inner circle was compromised or sold put to the swamp in some way or another.

And the DOJ ran deep with swampiness.

Hell most of the leadership was actively trying toanipulate evidence so they could prosecute him for treason.

And u want him to be able to ferret out and find every piece of corruption?

half of his cabinet at any given time was working against him on top of his own DOJ.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 9:20p, 6/20/21
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Sea Speed said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
flashplayer said:
Yet I had to practically beg my PCP to give it to me when I got to the point of nearing hospitalization.

Medical professionals are the biggest frauds on the planet. I say that as someone who works with them daily.
99% of doctors prescribe the drugs that are approved by their practice group at the rate negotiated with the insurance companies.

Its a massive shell game of kickbacks and rebates.
this is why i am going to find a new dermatologist. they kept trying to get me some name brand stuff and use a coupon for it instead of insurance and get it from some pharmacy on another town and get it delivered, telling me it was some new drug that wasnt covered by insurance and would cost hundreds without going to this pharmacy. that just wreaks of fraud.



Highly unlikely to be fraud. This is increasingly common. A smaller biotech company develops a drug and rather than fighting and negotiating coverage with every single insurance plan, they opt to contract with a private pharmacy and negotiate a cash price. I have several patients who go this route as their monthly expense would have actually been higher using their insurance on a similar regimen.

Know what sort of kickback I get from the company for prescribing their medication? A coke and a smile. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.
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In reply to Ags4DaWin • 9:25p, 6/20/21
Ags4DaWin said:
Oak Tree said:
Pookers said:
Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.


I think Trump's DOJ should have investigated and prosecuted Fauci. Trump decided to put him front and center instead. I'm surprised anyone can defend that.



Only so much Trump can do. Seemed like every few months he was finding a new member of his inner circle was compromised or sold put to the swamp in some way or another.

And the DOJ ran deep with swampiness.

Hell most of the leadership was actively trying toanipulate evidence so they could prosecute him for treason.

And u want him to be able to ferret out and find every piece of corruption?

half of his cabinet at any given time was working against him on top of his own DOJ.
Yep, Oak is right to point the finger at republicans sitting on their hands, but his hatred of Trump is clouding his vision. This was not Trump's fault in the way he is making it out to be. Could Trump have done things better, reacted definitely to some things, no doubt. But the things that man faced the last 5 years, his wife, his kids, his friends, his businesses, his future, he reacted better than I would have and gained a lot of respect from me. He faced all of it with a straight back, a full heart, and Americans interest at the center of his work in my opinion. For those saying he was doing it for himself, well Trumps an American too.
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In reply to agdoc2001 • 9:26p, 6/20/21
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one of the medications is made by almirall, which doesnt seem to be some small biotech company. additionally, 100% of the things they initially tried to prescribe me were from a pharmacy hundreds of miles away and not through my standard pharmacy run through my insurance.

it may not be sketchy, but it absolutely seems that way....
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ShaggySLC said:
Oak Tree said:
Pookers said:
Oak Tree said:
Stat Monitor Repairman said:
Because Big Pharma wants their piece of the pie.

Dems scratch Big Pharma's back Big Pharma scratches the Dems back.

A couple of Memaws and Pepaws kick the can it's just a cost of doing business.

The biggest scam in the history of mankind and we love every minute of it!


I thought Trump was president and Republicans controlled the Senate in 2020. Did they allow the biggest scam in US history?


What should Trump had done? Claimed the whole thing was a hoax and promptly get removed via the 25th? He was handed a no win situation. He put Fauci front and center for a reason. No one can blame Trump for "trusting the science". Fauci will end up in jail once his connection to the virus is further established and Trump will be fine.

On a local level I agree we were screwed over by Abbott and his ilk.


I think Trump's DOJ should have investigated and prosecuted Fauci. Trump decided to put him front and center instead. I'm surprised anyone can defend that.

Was it really Trump's DOJ? Sure seems like very few around Trump went to work genuinely on things he was pushing. They sure as hell didn't back him up when he was speaking proven truths. Trump can't prosecute anyone and it was proven over and over again that when he tried to push his DOJ into action, he was met with blunt force. Wake up Oak.


Trump appointed Sessions and Barr to AG who heads the DOJ/FBI. I expect his appointees to do their job. If they fail, as President, he gets some of the blame. I absolutely agree that Trump had an uphill battle.

Edit: I don't hate Trump...I voted for him. Honest criticism is needed to fix the problem.
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In reply to Oak Tree • 10:34p, 6/20/21
You do hate Trump, your post are dramatic towards Trump man. Also, Trump thought the same when he appointed them.

Your criticism needs to be directed at the right people to have the best impact. Trump wasn't the problem. Understand for the 1000th time?
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In reply to ShaggySLC • 10:54p, 6/20/21
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ShaggySLC said:
You do hate Trump, your post are dramatic towards Trump man. Also, Trump thought the same when he appointed them.

Your criticism needs to be directed at the right people to have the best impact. Trump wasn't the problem. Understand for the 1000th time?


Criticism isn't hate....having higher expectations for ANY Republican would have the best impact.
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half of his cabinet at any given time was working against him on top of his own DOJ.


The cabinet HE appointed? That's ok with you?

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