There's a whole bunch study on this haplogroups and y or mitochondrial dna tell the story.

Let's not forget that when you talk to a Greek they invented and/or started everything, including the Turks.

It's nobody's business but the Turks.

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The Turkish DNA Project, an online endeavor to track Turkish genetics, is enraged at the popular genealogy site Ancestry.com and has called for it to be boycotted for stating an inconvenient truth: many, and possibly most, modern Turks are the descendants of the Greeks who once formed the overwhelming majority of the population of the land that is now Turkey. In this as in so many other instances, the truth hurts, but that doesn't make it any less the truth.

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Greek City Times explained that the Turkish group was enraged "because Ancestry.com correctly highlighted that many Turkish citizens are indeed mostly unrelated to Turkic peoples from Central Asia and are rather native Anatolian people that have been Turkified.Ancestry.com highlighted that after the Ottoman conquest of Pontos in today's Turkey's southeastern Black Sea coast, the "Pontian Greeks adopted Turkish language and culture, and many converted to Islam in order to have greater opportunities in Turkish society. Ancestry.com also highlighted that another round of Turkification of Pontian Greeks occurred after the second Russo-Turkish War (1828-29)."

This is not at all surprising, and nowhere even close to a false claim. Throughout history, when Muslims have conquered an area, they relegate the non-Muslims to second-class status, denying them numerous rights and mandating that they pay a tax, the jizya, for the privilege of practicing their religions without being killed. There is one easy way for the subjugated dhimmis to escape this state of humiliation and degradation: they can convert to Islam.

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Greek City Times reported that the Turkish DNA Project tweeted: "AncestryDNA prioritizes to demonize the Turkish people and delegitimaze [sic] their presence in Turkey rather than giving information about the genetic structure of the relevant population." The Turkish DNA Project called upon "all Turks to boycott this company: Ancestry."

After Greek City Times called attention to the tweet, the Turkish DNA Project took it down, but it still has up a retweet calling for a boycott of Ancestry.com, as well as a tweet fulminating with incandescent rage against Greek City Times' Athens Bureau chief Paul Antopoulos, whom it calls a "white supremacist." Very original line of attack you got there, guys.

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Meh, wait until the real story of human genetic "manipulation" becomes common knowledge..

I've got a 2nd cousin who is a Roman Catholic Priest and he did a little family research.

He got my dad's side back to the early 1600s in England.
He got my mom's side back to the year 740 in present day Germany.

I took the DNA test and it came back English, Scot, Welsh, French, German, Pole, and "Scandinavian".

Pure Northern European.

Well of course the turks would be mad about this. Their ancestors sold out their heritage/culture when conquered by mohammedans.

It's like Ilhan Omar's kid being mad at rich white people when her mom is married to one now.

My dad was adopted, so we both did Ancestry's DNA test several years ago. I also did the Y test from Family Search. Both confirmed what we suspected all along; almost completely Brit with a smattering of northwest Europe. I've also done a lot of genealogical research for my mom's side of the family. Also lily-white from England and northwest Europe.

Last year, I got an email from a guy who was puzzled that I and several other relatives on my mom's side kept being suggested as distant matches for him and other relatives in his tree. (They're all AA, hence his puzzlement.) He asked me if I had any information on specific relatives from the 1850s. When I put all the pieces together from his research and mine, the story that emerged was that the father of their family matriarch was my great-great-great grandfather, and the mother was a slave in his neighbor's household. Awkward. Never heard from him again.

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Are Turks ever not mad? Do Turks have another mode?

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As a guy married to a Turkish woman, I can verify Turks are always mad

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Patrick?

From what I can remember, the actual Turks were a semi nomadic peoples who over time took advantage of the occasional mess that the eastern Roman Empire fell into.

They basically slotted themselves into the power structure of the existing eastern Roman peoples.

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How do these DNA sites know they're accurate? Where do they get their base level or "person zero" DNA from?

If I was one of the first people in the system and said I was of ____ origin, but was either lying or mistaken, is it really the case that all others could be incorrect? I mean, yeah, I know its MUCH more substantial that that (I only use that small example for illustration) but seriously: what is the basis for verifying the underlying data?

Incidentally, there are many others who, if this stuff IS accurate, are going to not like what they find.

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Clustering and (really) big data.

Were the results confirmed by ottoman stool samples?

Turks:Turkey::Normans:England

aggiehawg said:

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Are Turks ever not mad? Do Turks have another mode?

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As a guy married to a Turkish woman, I can verify Turks are always mad

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Greek women are no picnic either. Sure she isn't Greek?

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Greek women look like they ate the entire picnic. Then blamed everyone for not eating enough at said picnic.