FriscoKid said:

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Someone had to use a USB stick to reprogram the vote counter and "fix the glitch".

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They have completed their investigation, case closed. Everyone can move along now.

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Double Talk = LIES.

This was a stolen election.

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And no one will ever be able convince me otherwise.

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thirdcoast said:

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"The machines are air gapped, they are not connected to internet, it's just not physically possible"
-Dominion spokesman

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if they have an LTE modem... they are not "air gapped".
that is like saying my smart phone cannot connect to the internet because it does not have a cable.
liberal doublespeak

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Strictly speaking, even if it is there, it is still air gapped as long as it is not connected to anything.

Logically speaking, it does make sense to be able to connect it to a network in order to upgrade software and/or firmware.

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Not over an expensive modem. It's not just the hardware either. You have to pay for a data plan if you decide to use an LTE modem for this. Much smarter way would be through a network jack or USB thumb drive. People don't install modems in equipment like this for "upgrades".

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Not if you were sitting in a van near the voting machines with an LTE transceiver. They exist and are used for rapid deployment scenarios.

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I'll prove it even further...

Remember the MI county that "didn't upgrade their software" and it resulted in the 8k vote swing for Biden???

If the modem was there for upgrades then that wouldn't have happened. The machine would have been upgraded automatically over LTE. No, that isn't how they upgrade the firmware. Someone had to use a USB stick to reprogram the vote counter and "fix the glitch".

If justice wanted to get to the bottom of this then the SIM cards would be pulled and the phone numbers for all these machines and phone records would be pulled. I bet there were multiple calls made on election night.

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We see lots of accusations. What we aren't seeing is proof of anything.

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I'll go back to the very 1st post. Why in the hell would you have a modem in there in the first place? It doesn't belong there.

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The ones to ask why it is there is the manufacturer and the local voting districts. All any of us can do is speculate about the reasons.

While the fact that they can connect over a cell network is concerning, we don't know whether or not they did connect and for what reason if they did connect out.

More concerning, I think, is the potential that the device could be attacked over the internet while connected. Remember that in this Internet of Things (IoT), the 'S' in "IoT" stands for security.

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eric, you are being hammered into the turf with an Aluminum baseball bat.

There is absolutely NO reason that a voting machine, or a vote tabulation machine, should be connected to or contain ANY hardware device that allows remote access, communication, updates or monitoring. Neither should the LAW, RULES, VOTING CODE OR COMMON SENSE allow any Firmware updates after early voting opens, or Mail-in Ballots are received and processed, whichever is earlier. I say firmware, because that's at the machine level...no operating system involved.

Neither should SoS, State Supreme Courts, the Governor, LT Governor or the admin assistant down the hall, be permitted to bend, fold, staple or mutilate State Voting Laws for any reason. In fact, based on the wording in the US Constitution, I'm not sure the Governor even has sign-off / veto rights on voting rules/laws. It clearly says, "State Legislatures", not "State Governments". My opinion.

If the machine ain't working, TAKE IT OFFLINE, REMOVE IT FROM THE POLLING / COUNTING PLACE, and either replace it with a BACKUP machine, or (OMG, U meen acksual work?) count the fricken ballots by hand.

We went through MS (Bill Gates) putzing around on our mission criutical servers and PC's with more than a smattering of "WTFH???" incidences. We don't need voting / polling machines being updated after voting starts.

Voting is our most sacred right...treat it as such.

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I don't think anyone is saying that they should be doing firmware or software updates while the election is in process. Those would need to be done prior to the start of voting.

I have never been a fan of voting machines. That said, we seem to be stuck with them. The capabilities of the voting machines should be negotiated between the buyer and seller of the machines (unless, of course, you detest Capitalism and Free Markets).

I do not claim to know why the machines have the capability of connecting to the LTE networks. The best I can do is to think of reasons why they might. The one thing I can think of is that some customers need it (or think that they need it) for doing software and/or firmware updates.

In the absence of actual facts, all anyone is doing here, myself included, is speculating.

And nobody that I've seen is arguing that they need to do firmware or software updates during the election itself. That is just downright crazy.

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"The machines are air gapped, they are not connected to internet, it's just not physically possible"
-Dominion spokesman

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if they have an LTE modem... they are not "air gapped".
that is like saying my smart phone cannot connect to the internet because it does not have a cable.
liberal doublespeak

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Strictly speaking, even if it is there, it is still air gapped as long as it is not connected to anything.

Logically speaking, it does make sense to be able to connect it to a network in order to upgrade software and/or firmware.

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Not over an expensive modem. It's not just the hardware either. You have to pay for a data plan if you decide to use an LTE modem for this. Much smarter way would be through a network jack or USB thumb drive. People don't install modems in equipment like this for "upgrades".

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Data plans for appliances are pretty cheap.
I've got a Covert Scouting Trailcam on AT&T 4G that sends me 1,000 HD pix for $6/month.
I'm sure the voter tallies would use very little data traffic.

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But, they don't need that in real time. That's not the official way that results are submitted. Your trail cam is remote and using an M2M modem makes sense. How else would you get the pics?

Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time. That isn't necessary (or legal).

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eric76 said:

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I'll prove it even further...

Remember the MI county that "didn't upgrade their software" and it resulted in the 8k vote swing for Biden???

If the modem was there for upgrades then that wouldn't have happened. The machine would have been upgraded automatically over LTE. No, that isn't how they upgrade the firmware. Someone had to use a USB stick to reprogram the vote counter and "fix the glitch".

If justice wanted to get to the bottom of this then the SIM cards would be pulled and the phone numbers for all these machines and phone records would be pulled. I bet there were multiple calls made on election night.

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We see lots of accusations. What we aren't seeing is proof of anything.

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It is up to election officials to prove that the election was legitimate. That is their job. They need to explain this kind of irregularity and the purpose of the wireless connection in the machines. I imagine we will not hear anything from them.

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It is up to the legislature to come up with laws designed to result in an honest and fair election. If they don't do their job. That is not an easy job and the legislatures don't seem to be very good at it. For legislatures, it seems to be more like a bucket list of things to do that needs to be checked off.

As I've said numerous times, this is the time to start getting ready for the 2028 election. Rushing through to pass legislation is not likely to fix anything.

And it is up to us to hold the election officials responsible for abiding by the laws created by the legislature and signed into law by the governor. The election officials are there to carry out the election according to the law. If the law is poorly thought out and hastily rushed through, then that is what the election officials will follow. Don't blame them for the laws they are required to follow.

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HollywoodBQ said:

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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C@LAg said:

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thirdcoast said:

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"The machines are air gapped, they are not connected to internet, it's just not physically possible"
-Dominion spokesman

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if they have an LTE modem... they are not "air gapped".
that is like saying my smart phone cannot connect to the internet because it does not have a cable.
liberal doublespeak

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Strictly speaking, even if it is there, it is still air gapped as long as it is not connected to anything.

Logically speaking, it does make sense to be able to connect it to a network in order to upgrade software and/or firmware.

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Not over an expensive modem. It's not just the hardware either. You have to pay for a data plan if you decide to use an LTE modem for this. Much smarter way would be through a network jack or USB thumb drive. People don't install modems in equipment like this for "upgrades".

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Data plans for appliances are pretty cheap.
I've got a Covert Scouting Trailcam on AT&T 4G that sends me 1,000 HD pix for $6/month.
I'm sure the voter tallies would use very little data traffic.

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But, they don't need that in real time. That's not the official way that results are submitted. Your trail cam is remote and using an M2M modem makes sense. How else would you get the pics?

Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time. That isn't necessary (or legal).

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What are we talking about here? There are machines that produce a ballot that is then processed by tabulators. There are also ballots marked by hand that are then processed by tabulators. Then there are machines that actually count the vote -- did Michigan even use these?

Don't most election machines these days produce a paper ballot that is then processed by the tabulators? If so, then there should be no need for the machine that produces the paper ballot to count anything.

So when do we take our country back?

It's simple here, you must identify to vote.

What identification is registered for every access to a voting machine?

If there's an ability to access LTE with them how is each access identified? If each access is identified, how is it identified as unique? Are edits recorded? Or is this an access and edit but never question system?

Maybe this is a bomb that Trump has been waiting on because voting legalities are not to be effed with... But then again FBI and department of justice had been feared too

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FriscoKid said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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C@LAg said:

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thirdcoast said:

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"The machines are air gapped, they are not connected to internet, it's just not physically possible"
-Dominion spokesman

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if they have an LTE modem... they are not "air gapped".
that is like saying my smart phone cannot connect to the internet because it does not have a cable.
liberal doublespeak

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Strictly speaking, even if it is there, it is still air gapped as long as it is not connected to anything.

Logically speaking, it does make sense to be able to connect it to a network in order to upgrade software and/or firmware.

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Not over an expensive modem. It's not just the hardware either. You have to pay for a data plan if you decide to use an LTE modem for this. Much smarter way would be through a network jack or USB thumb drive. People don't install modems in equipment like this for "upgrades".

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Data plans for appliances are pretty cheap.
I've got a Covert Scouting Trailcam on AT&T 4G that sends me 1,000 HD pix for $6/month.
I'm sure the voter tallies would use very little data traffic.

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But, they don't need that in real time. That's not the official way that results are submitted. Your trail cam is remote and using an M2M modem makes sense. How else would you get the pics?

Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time. That isn't necessary (or legal).

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What are we talking about here? There are machines that produce a ballot that is then processed by tabulators. There are also ballots marked by hand that are then processed by tabulators. Then there are machines that actually count the vote -- did Michigan even use these?

Don't most election machines these days produce a paper ballot that is then processed by the tabulators? If so, then there should be no need for the machine that produces the paper ballot to count anything.

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It's the ballot scanner.
https://www.essvote.com/products/ds200/

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eric76 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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C@LAg said:

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thirdcoast said:

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"The machines are air gapped, they are not connected to internet, it's just not physically possible"
-Dominion spokesman

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if they have an LTE modem... they are not "air gapped".
that is like saying my smart phone cannot connect to the internet because it does not have a cable.
liberal doublespeak

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Strictly speaking, even if it is there, it is still air gapped as long as it is not connected to anything.

Logically speaking, it does make sense to be able to connect it to a network in order to upgrade software and/or firmware.

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Not over an expensive modem. It's not just the hardware either. You have to pay for a data plan if you decide to use an LTE modem for this. Much smarter way would be through a network jack or USB thumb drive. People don't install modems in equipment like this for "upgrades".

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Data plans for appliances are pretty cheap.
I've got a Covert Scouting Trailcam on AT&T 4G that sends me 1,000 HD pix for $6/month.
I'm sure the voter tallies would use very little data traffic.

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But, they don't need that in real time. That's not the official way that results are submitted. Your trail cam is remote and using an M2M modem makes sense. How else would you get the pics?

Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time. That isn't necessary (or legal).

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What are we talking about here? There are machines that produce a ballot that is then processed by tabulators. There are also ballots marked by hand that are then processed by tabulators. Then there are machines that actually count the vote -- did Michigan even use these?

Don't most election machines these days produce a paper ballot that is then processed by the tabulators? If so, then there should be no need for the machine that produces the paper ballot to count anything.

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It's the ballot scanner.
https://www.essvote.com/products/ds200/

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So the votes aren't counted at all until the polls closed and the election workers run the ballots through the tabulator.

Note that you earlier seemed to be saying that the votes are counted as they are made: "Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time."

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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HollywoodBQ said:

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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C@LAg said:

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thirdcoast said:

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"The machines are air gapped, they are not connected to internet, it's just not physically possible"
-Dominion spokesman

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if they have an LTE modem... they are not "air gapped".
that is like saying my smart phone cannot connect to the internet because it does not have a cable.
liberal doublespeak

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Strictly speaking, even if it is there, it is still air gapped as long as it is not connected to anything.

Logically speaking, it does make sense to be able to connect it to a network in order to upgrade software and/or firmware.

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Not over an expensive modem. It's not just the hardware either. You have to pay for a data plan if you decide to use an LTE modem for this. Much smarter way would be through a network jack or USB thumb drive. People don't install modems in equipment like this for "upgrades".

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Data plans for appliances are pretty cheap.
I've got a Covert Scouting Trailcam on AT&T 4G that sends me 1,000 HD pix for $6/month.
I'm sure the voter tallies would use very little data traffic.

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But, they don't need that in real time. That's not the official way that results are submitted. Your trail cam is remote and using an M2M modem makes sense. How else would you get the pics?

Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time. That isn't necessary (or legal).

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What are we talking about here? There are machines that produce a ballot that is then processed by tabulators. There are also ballots marked by hand that are then processed by tabulators. Then there are machines that actually count the vote -- did Michigan even use these?

Don't most election machines these days produce a paper ballot that is then processed by the tabulators? If so, then there should be no need for the machine that produces the paper ballot to count anything.

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It's the ballot scanner.
https://www.essvote.com/products/ds200/

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So the votes aren't counted at all until the polls closed and the election workers run the ballots through the tabulator.

Note that you earlier seemed to be saying that the votes are counted as they are made: "Election workers don't know the results from the counter until they are downloaded to a thumb drive after the polls close. If you have a back door link then you can see it in real time."

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I'll put this in simple terms for you. People cast votes. Machine counts votes. People next to machine don't know who votes went for because polls are still open and people get results from machine after polls close. Modem changes that. Person can look at results inside machine whenever they want because they have a wireless link that doesn't belong there in this application.

I'm sure you are busy using Google to become an engineer, but I was planning on turning in early tonight. An LTE modem doesn't belong in this product. It's a back door that shouldn't exist and doesn't serve a logical purpose.

Can we chat tomorrow?

From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Good job.

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

I have to admit, as a professional that works with embedded processors and mission-critical computing in my career, I wanted so badly to give the benefit of the doubt to this. I thought to myself, "surely this is just someone looking blindly at a spec sheet for a family of SoC devices, and the wireless modem "option" was not actually present in the voting machines."

I think Dominion is going to have to come up with some serious answers here, regarding how the wireless access was disabled / locked out in hardware (and, who independently validated their approach). Any mitigation other than that leaves us with more questions than answers, IMO.

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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I have to admit, as a professional that works with embedded processors and mission-critical computing in my career, I wanted so badly to give the benefit of the doubt to this. I thought to myself, "surely this is just someone looking blindly at a spec sheet for a family of SoC devices, and the wireless modem "option" was not actually present in the voting machines."

I think Dominion is going to have to come up with some serious answers here, regarding how the wireless access was disabled / locked out in hardware (and, who independently validated their approach). Any mitigation other than that leaves us with more questions than answers, IMO.

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No ****

Does anyone know if one Robert Mueller is available to do a nice lengthy investigation on this subject matter?

Thanks in advance

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Does anyone know if one Robert Mueller is available to do a nice lengthy investigation on this subject matter?

Thanks in advance

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Can Durham help or is he still busy?

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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eric76 said:

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

Staff's business model is to encourage trolls because it generates more clicks.

If people ever learned not to feed the trolls, the problem would solve itself.

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

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It's the people who are trying to spin everything possible to support the notion that Trump was robbed of his reelection who are full of hot air (or something else).

It is possible that my car could be driven over a cliff at high speed. In spite of that possibility, it has never done so. By the very bad logic of many on here, if it has that possibility, it can only be because it is meant to be driven over a cliff at high speed.

While there could be a back door using the LTE modem, nobody has yet to demonstrate any evidence that such a back door exists. Until that happens, it is nothing more than yet another inane conspiracy theory.

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It's going to take our resident Lefties a little while to get the answer.

Look, they've got to go their first choice for the written narrative so they can repeat ad nauseum. Then, failing to find appropriate answers, they may have to search ALL of the Lefty sites. Sometimes the truth is so difficult to combat, that it takes 24 hours for a whole class of 1984 book clubs to arrive at an answer their Lefty kingdom will accept.

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Maybe they should try remotely connecting to the voting machine. The answer may lie there.

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

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It's the people who are trying to spin everything possible to support the notion that Trump was robbed of his reelection who are full of hot air (or something else).

It is possible that my car could be driven over a cliff at high speed. In spite of that possibility, it has never done so. By the very bad logic of many on here, if it has that possibility, it can only be because it is meant to be driven over a cliff at high speed.

While there could be a back door using the LTE modem, nobody has yet to demonstrate any evidence that such a back door exists. Until that happens, it is nothing more than yet another inane conspiracy theory.

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You have been trying to convince everyone you are a conservative for the past several weeks. I see you are back to deflecting again. Are you a shock troop?

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

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It's the people who are trying to spin everything possible to support the notion that Trump was robbed of his reelection who are full of hot air (or something else).

It is possible that my car could be driven over a cliff at high speed. In spite of that possibility, it has never done so. By the very bad logic of many on here, if it has that possibility, it can only be because it is meant to be driven over a cliff at high speed.

While there could be a back door using the LTE modem, nobody has yet to demonstrate any evidence that such a back door exists. Until that happens, it is nothing more than yet another inane conspiracy theory.

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You have been trying to convince everyone you are a conservative for the past several weeks. I see you are back to deflecting again. Are you a shock troop?

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Do you really view Conservatism as believing in crazy conspiracy theories?

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

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It's the people who are trying to spin everything possible to support the notion that Trump was robbed of his reelection who are full of hot air (or something else).

It is possible that my car could be driven over a cliff at high speed. In spite of that possibility, it has never done so. By the very bad logic of many on here, if it has that possibility, it can only be because it is meant to be driven over a cliff at high speed.

While there could be a back door using the LTE modem, nobody has yet to demonstrate any evidence that such a back door exists. Until that happens, it is nothing more than yet another inane conspiracy theory.

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You have been trying to convince everyone you are a conservative for the past several weeks. I see you are back to deflecting again. Are you a shock troop?

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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eric76 said:

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eric76 said:

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eric76 said:

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

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You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

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You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

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It's the people who are trying to spin everything possible to support the notion that Trump was robbed of his reelection who are full of hot air (or something else).

It is possible that my car could be driven over a cliff at high speed. In spite of that possibility, it has never done so. By the very bad logic of many on here, if it has that possibility, it can only be because it is meant to be driven over a cliff at high speed.

While there could be a back door using the LTE modem, nobody has yet to demonstrate any evidence that such a back door exists. Until that happens, it is nothing more than yet another inane conspiracy theory.

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Here you go again. Evidence that something not right has come up. You even agreed that it didn't look right at first. Then your shift to deflection makes it appear that you received your talking point to blame "crazy conspiracy theory". Very transparent.

The head election officials, who are either voted into the position or are appointed by those who have been voted into office, thereby making there positions a conflict of interest to begin with, need to explain why these machines have this capability, whether or not it was used during the election, and what procedures were in place to prevent abuse of this capability. Such transparency and more is necessary for those in a position that could easily be abused for their benefit.

If they will not or cannot explain irregularities then they are incompetent in their jobs, need to immediately be terminated, and all elections under their supervision are suspect.

My suggestion is not a conspiracy theory. It is just a statement that those running the elections need to be competent at their jobs and fully transparent. If they are incompetent or excessively biased then the election results are questionable. It's quite simple.

This could be easily proven if the machines were accessed vis the modem.

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Tom Kazansky 2012 said:

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eric76 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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FriscoKid said:

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eric76 said:

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From https://www.dominionvoting.com/imagecast-precinct/

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OPTIONAL

Secure wireless transmission capability if approved for use according to jurisdictional rules.

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Good job.

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I was hoping that Dominion Voting System's web site would give more detail on why the device is included. It did mention that they have the capability so it isn't like they are trying to hide it.

A manual for the device that would include information on exactly why it is there would be useful.

---

You want a company to publish that they have a back door on their marketing literature? Do you have as big of a problem with marketing as you do with engineering?

---

You are claiming that there is a back door merely because it is possible that there might be a back door, not because of any evidence that such a back door actually exists. Let's see some actual evidence of such a back door instead of just imagining it.

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You are one of the most hot air spewing posters on Texags.

Staff can we call this trolling at this point?

---

It's the people who are trying to spin everything possible to support the notion that Trump was robbed of his reelection who are full of hot air (or something else).

It is possible that my car could be driven over a cliff at high speed. In spite of that possibility, it has never done so. By the very bad logic of many on here, if it has that possibility, it can only be because it is meant to be driven over a cliff at high speed.

While there could be a back door using the LTE modem, nobody has yet to demonstrate any evidence that such a back door exists. Until that happens, it is nothing more than yet another inane conspiracy theory.

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Nobody can stop you from driving off a cliff if you want to. The design of a car can't prevent the driver from steering it over a cliff to his doom, or into a telephone pole, or through a crowded intersection, etc etc. That's kind of a red herring. Ralph Nader made a career out of forcing auto manufacturers to stop designing inherently unsafe vehicles. Car makers had no real incentive on their own to make safer cars that didn't kill or maim drivers, passengers, or pedestrians in spite of the skill or intent of the operator. Voting machines are inherently unsecure. All of them, from every manufacturer, can be easily hacked. This is a fact. Who will be the Ralph Nader today who forces voting machine manufacturers to stop building flawed junk?

Would you want your car to have a switch under the hood that could turn the brakes off if used at speeds over 50 mph? I mean as long as no one ever used that switch what's the harm? It's dangerous to have that switch and it's dangerous to have a modem in a voting machine.

I've glanced at this topic, lots discussed here so far. One thing that is clear to me is the lack of public understanding of the actual voting machine specifications and operations. I suspect that the buyer's don't even have a handle on this.

If there were references to standards and specifications to comply too with respect to voting machine operations; I missed that post.

The appearance of remote access creates general distrust. Does not matter that the modem allows remote monitoring or service capability. The ability to know how the software works and how the software complies with regulations and specifications is simply something that the general public does not know. Like everyone here, I can speculate but even I (a software, instrumentation, firmware and controls engineer) don't know. What I am saying is that I write specifications and software and have to comply with standards and prove it. But then the the only people I prove it too is my own team and knowledgeable clients.

A paper trail along with a method of verifying one's ballot is best. Along with a verification method that a legal voter actually cast said ballot. People understand paper, they can hold it, read it and end the end trust it.

Seems to me they need a look at the firmware/software running at the time of the election. It would indicate if that hardware feature was enabled or equipped to be enabled.