Really, REALLY surprising: Suicide rate supposedly decreased in 2020

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Suicides in the U.S. decreased in 2020, according to preliminary data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Why it matters: Critics of lockdowns and other coronavirus-prevention efforts have suggested throughout the pandemic that those measures would drive the suicide rate higher. But that hasn't happened.
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By the numbers: From 2019 to 2020, deaths by suicide declined by 5.6%, from 47,511 to 44,834, per the CDC. It was the third consecutive year of decline.
Article: https://www.axios.com/suicide-decreased-in-2020-pandemmic-mental-health-26196eaf-a245-4d21-85eb-eeb864a24449.html

It links to this JAMA article as its source: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

Which contains this table:


Try as I might, I haven't been able to find any figures on CDC's website for suicide in 2020 and can't source that table at all.

Here is the available provisional mortality report for 2020: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

It does contain this table, which if accurate would mean suicide was less than ~50,000 like the other articles claim:


I, personally, find this pretty shocking and suspicious considering the numerous reports of suicide hotlines ringing off the hook, the CDC report saying 25% of young adults had seriously considered suicide, etc. Suicide information is usually not available for a couple of years, so maybe that's at play here?

It simply defies logic that the suicide rate actually decreased during lockdowns and isolation. Of course it would be a good thing if that actually happened, it just seems really illogical.
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Rapier108
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They were all counted as coronavirus deaths.
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Covid deaths. Come On Man!
Rapier108
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Joking aside, this is complete BS.

They're manipulating the numbers in an effort to justify the never ending lock downs.
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You are right - this is certainly not consistent with the media narrative we've heard for the past year. But then again when we consider these two sources this means nothing at all. I trust the CDC almost as little as I trust the media.
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It's a ****ing lie.
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Rapier108 said:

Joking aside, this is complete BS.

They're manipulating the numbers in an effort to justify the never ending lock downs.
Unless they need more gun deaths then they are all of the sudden gun related.
Irish 2.0
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"Unintentional Injuries" had quite the pop there...
outofstateaggie
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EVERY cause of death went down...EXCEPT COVID.

I don't know...it's a mystery.
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CDC...impeccable reputation
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Irish 2.0 said:

"Unintentional Injuries" had quite the pop there...
This could be it. This is provisional data, and maybe it takes time to properly categorize the deaths and determine which ones are suicide.
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Wait until the government handouts dry up.

If you are depressed, and can rely on other things to self medicate and hang out on the couch like Brad Pitt on True Romance, you might just be putting off suicide until the money runs out.
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I don't believe this for a second.
Wasn't it two weeks ago that the national study on teen suicides showing the huge surge was released?
I call bull****
SeaAg010607
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They were classified as COVID deaths, and it's harder to kill yourself in a house full of people 24 hours a day.
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Haven't read the article, but a suicide death can actually be difficult to determine after the fact. Additionally, let's pretend the data is accurate at the moment. If increased suicidal ideation doesn't result in both increases in attempts and completions, we would have no explanation as to why from the data alone. Perhaps lockdowns reduced access to especially violent means? Other possibilities. Number I would be most interested in is number of attempts year over year.
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This is all bull****.

LEOs that I've talked to say that suicide and domestic violence are way way up.

We are all being gaslighted (and 50% of us ****ing love it!).
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Interesting it's the third year of true. All years with Trump as president. Coincidence?
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Irish 2.0 said:

"Unintentional Injuries" had quite the pop there...
Yep, 19K pop. I suspect that this is where some of the suicides landed. Also, going to guess a few home do it yourself projects went south on people. "Since I am stuck at home and have nothing to do I might as well do that thing I was going to pay a professional to do"
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As was said, suicides are now call COVID-19 deaths by the CDC.
The statistics tell that tale, if you look at it from that direction

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Might have been harder to find time alone to carry out attempts?
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I am not believing a damn thing the CDC says.........
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I believe there have been others studies in similar events that have shown a decrease in suicides. Not sure what the reasoning is.
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Suicide is fairly common in elderly single men. How many widowed, elderly, terminally ill men commit suicide in any given year? This year they just died of covid.
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The category of "Deaths caused by Cuomo" spiked in 2020.
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In a year when most were locked down and even when removing all reported COVID deaths, the 2020 increase in total deaths was more than twice as much as any others reported.

I smell a rat.
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More "Covid Suicides" than Covid Deaths in Kids AIER

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The biggest increase in youth deaths occurred in the 15-24 age bracket the age group most susceptible to committing suicide, and which constitutes 91% of youth suicides. Indeed, as early as July 2020 just four months into the pandemic CDC Director Robert Redfield remarked that
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there has been another cost that we've seen, particularly in high schools. We're seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from COVID. We're seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose.
Although complete national suicide data for 2020 likely won't be publicly available until 2022, Redfield's claim is supported by the increase in calls and emails witnessed by mental illness hotlines.
Between March and August the National Alliance on Mental Illness HelpLine reported a 65% increase in calls and emails. The Trevor Project which targets suicide prevention among LGBTQ youth saw double its usual call volume. The jump in helpline calls hadn't let up by the end of 2020: in November Crisis Text Line received 180,000 calls its highest volume ever, and an increase of 30,000 from the previous month. Over 90% of those were from people under 35.
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Now they are just making stuff up. This is not remotely credible. Anecdotal known examples alone far exceed prior years.
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More suicides between ages 14 -24.
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Data has been fake from the beginning. We are post reality. Everything is real, and nothing is real.
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waitwhat? said:

Quote:

Suicides in the U.S. decreased in 2020, according to preliminary data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Why it matters: Critics of lockdowns and other coronavirus-prevention efforts have suggested throughout the pandemic that those measures would drive the suicide rate higher. But that hasn't happened.
Quote:

By the numbers: From 2019 to 2020, deaths by suicide declined by 5.6%, from 47,511 to 44,834, per the CDC. It was the third consecutive year of decline.
Article: https://www.axios.com/suicide-decreased-in-2020-pandemmic-mental-health-26196eaf-a245-4d21-85eb-eeb864a24449.html

It links to this JAMA article as its source: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

Which contains this table:


Try as I might, I haven't been able to find any figures on CDC's website for suicide in 2020 and can't source that table at all.

Here is the available provisional mortality report for 2020: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7014e1.htm

It does contain this table, which if accurate would mean suicide was less than ~50,000 like the other articles claim:


I, personally, find this pretty shocking and suspicious considering the numerous reports of suicide hotlines ringing off the hook, the CDC report saying 25% of young adults had seriously considered suicide, etc. Suicide information is usually not available for a couple of years, so maybe that's at play here?

It simply defies logic that the suicide rate actually decreased during lockdowns and isolation. Of course it would be a good thing if that actually happened, it just seems really illogical.


Lol I notice CNN doesn't have a live death count for heart disease and cancer.

Clown world.
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People claim China lied about COVID, but our government is no better.
FCBlitz
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I grow the BS flag on this.
BTKAG97
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Why did Alzheimer's and "unintentional injuries" dramatically increase?
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tysker said:

Suicide is fairly common in elderly single men. How many widowed, elderly, terminally ill men commit suicide in any given year? This year they just died of covid.

Damn one more thing I've got to worry about.
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This makes the claim that suicides were down in 2020 even more unlikely: https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/04/06/suicide-leading-cause-traumatic-death-young-patients-texas-hospital/

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Suicide surpassed car wrecks and child abuse as the leading cause of traumatic death in 2020 at Cook Children's Medical Center in Fort Worth.

The trend doctors described as 'alarming' when it emerged last year, is happening at an even more frequent rate in 2021.

In March, the hospital admitted 43 children after suicide attempts. The new record broke the previous high of 40, set in January. Many of the patients are girls, between 14 and 15 years old, although pediatricians have reported impacts to children as young as seven.

The isolation, loneliness and stress of the pandemic is leaving children feeling hopeless, doctors say, and ready to just give up.

"It's hard to see that things are going to get better,
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Doctors said the delayed return to a normal life, left some children with a sense of hopelessness. It was heightened they said by social media that filled the lack of in-person connections.

By the end of 2020, seven suicide patients had died at Cook. That number does not include children who died before being admitted to the hospital.

Those same pandemic pressures are likely largely to blame now, Pyrc explained, with children who are isolated often seeing some aspects of life that have resumed, happen without them, in real time on social media.
What has happened over the past year is criminal.
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