Should also be noted that Baden isn't on any witness list. That second autopsy will not (and should not) be in this trial.
Don't like him too much. he was meeting with the Black Community leaders in secret and then less than 24 hours later fired the officers before the investigation had barely begun and the autopsy report was even completed. He made the call to abandon Precinct 3 and let it be overrun and burned.NASAg03 said:
I like this chief of police. Seems really genuine. I wonder if the state is using this to question Derek's character? Training? Will be interesting to see what the plan is for his testimony.
EVERY police chief in just about any decently large city is a political animal. You don't get the job without being one.aggiehawg said:Don't like him too much. he was meeting with the Black Community leaders in secret and then less than 24 hours later fired the officers before the investigation had barely begun and the autopsy report was even completed. He made the call to abandon Precinct 3 and let it be overrun and burned.NASAg03 said:
I like this chief of police. Seems really genuine. I wonder if the state is using this to question Derek's character? Training? Will be interesting to see what the plan is for his testimony.
IOW, he's a very political for a police chief.
To some degree of course. Point being though he puts his political interests above those of his officers. They have procedures for critical incidents. He short circuited those and pronounced his verdict.txags92 said:EVERY police chief in just about any decently large city is a political animal. You don't get the job without being one.aggiehawg said:Don't like him too much. he was meeting with the Black Community leaders in secret and then less than 24 hours later fired the officers before the investigation had barely begun and the autopsy report was even completed. He made the call to abandon Precinct 3 and let it be overrun and burned.NASAg03 said:
I like this chief of police. Seems really genuine. I wonder if the state is using this to question Derek's character? Training? Will be interesting to see what the plan is for his testimony.
IOW, he's a very political for a police chief.
aggiehawg said:For a doctor, he conflated the two too often. All the jury heard was "asphyxia."Readzilla said:
He said "Hypoxia" which is similar to asphyxia but can be caused without any physical outside forces.
Of course they are.aggietony2010 said:aggiehawg said:For a doctor, he conflated the two too often. All the jury heard was "asphyxia."Readzilla said:
He said "Hypoxia" which is similar to asphyxia but can be caused without any physical outside forces.
The MSM is running with the "ER doc said likely cause of death was asphyxia"
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aggiehawg said:Of course they are.aggietony2010 said:aggiehawg said:For a doctor, he conflated the two too often. All the jury heard was "asphyxia."Readzilla said:
He said "Hypoxia" which is similar to asphyxia but can be caused without any physical outside forces.
The MSM is running with the "ER doc said likely cause of death was asphyxia"
Affirmative Action.aginresearch said:
Current witness was fast tracked to Police Chief. Every position was only for about 2 years.
CNN.com desktop (don't want to post link) under Chauvin trial:aggietony2010 said:aggiehawg said:Of course they are.aggietony2010 said:aggiehawg said:For a doctor, he conflated the two too often. All the jury heard was "asphyxia."Readzilla said:
He said "Hypoxia" which is similar to asphyxia but can be caused without any physical outside forces.
The MSM is running with the "ER doc said likely cause of death was asphyxia"
How hard are they pushing it? A simple google search for "asphyxia" pops up news stories about it as the 3rd-4th link.
He actually said hypoxia in layman's terms was asphyxia. My jaw hit the floor. WTF?Quote:
Terrible conflation of terms by a physician, compounded by yellow journalism at its finest. Thanks, MSM.
aginresearch said:
Current witness was fast tracked to Police Chief. Every position was only for about 2 years.

aggiehawg said:Don't like him too much. he was meeting with the Black Community leaders in secret and then less than 24 hours later fired the officers before the investigation had barely begun and the autopsy report was even completed. He made the call to abandon Precinct 3 and let it be overrun and burned.NASAg03 said:
I like this chief of police. Seems really genuine. I wonder if the state is using this to question Derek's character? Training? Will be interesting to see what the plan is for his testimony.
IOW, he's a very political for a police chief.
A is A said:
why tf are we talking about trans?
I know they do because Nelson was arguing about its admissibility in sessions during jury selection. He wanted to be able to ask Arradondo about those meetings. Cahill denied his request but said they could take it up again when he actually got on the stand. There was a delay this in getting started as that was under active discussion this morning in camera.BlueTaze said:aggiehawg said:Don't like him too much. he was meeting with the Black Community leaders in secret and then less than 24 hours later fired the officers before the investigation had barely begun and the autopsy report was even completed. He made the call to abandon Precinct 3 and let it be overrun and burned.NASAg03 said:
I like this chief of police. Seems really genuine. I wonder if the state is using this to question Derek's character? Training? Will be interesting to see what the plan is for his testimony.
IOW, he's a very political for a police chief.
I wonder if the defense knows about that secret meeting, I would think it would be relevant to record.
following the chief Acevedo blueprintGet Off My Lawn said:
This guy (IA history and vested interest in the image of the department) feels like he might be a ladder climber who would sacrifice 1 officer for the sake of personal advancement / department image.
Or in this case 4 officers including a rookie.Get Off My Lawn said:
This guy (IA history and vested interest in the image of the department) feels like he might be a ladder climber who would sacrifice 1 officer for the sake of personal advancement / department image.
Great, convict a man of murder because of the mob. Justice!oh no said:
or perhaps do his part to make sure one of his officers gets convicted of murder in hopes that his city doesn't burn?
It was his fault the city burned the last time. He abandoned the third precinct removing all officers from the area. Mayhem resulted. It was his order to abandon the residents who depended on police for their protection.oh no said:
or perhaps do his part to make sure one of his officers gets convicted of murder in hopes that his city doesn't burn?