Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Huh?

Range is really decreased with the inability to charge!/

oneeyedag said:

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Range is really decreased with the inability to charge!/

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Perhaps you could use a gas-powered generator.

Diesel to the rescue!!

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oneeyedag said:

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Range is really decreased with the inability to charge!/

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Perhaps you could use a gas-powered generator.

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ETA: data beat me to the pic.

Why would environmentalists want a coal burning car?

Still more efficient than gasoline

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BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Huh?

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In order to power your car, you need electricity generated mostly by coal and natural gas power plants.

Especially right now, none of the windmills or solar panels are working. And since, in cold weather, your battery efficiency drops like Kamala at Willie Brown's office desk, you're going to have to charge the **** out of your car to drive anywhere more than 20 miles away. Seeing as how you should only be moving at about 15-20 mph to be safe, you'll be lucky to get home on a 40 mile round trip.

I actually really like E. Musk and Tesla, but they aren't going to reduce fossil fuels all that much unless we're willing to talk nuclear power grids IMO. Tesla + nuclear power grids would be a very nice combo....except in extreme cold.

The top gear guys already solved this issue:

https://img.ecosia.org/390x,sc/?itok=P54mHinE

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BallerStaf2003 said:

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BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Huh?

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In order to power your car, you need electricity generated mostly by coal and natural gas power plants.

Especially right now, none of the windmills or solar panels are working. And since, in cold weather, your battery efficiency drops like Kamala at Willie Brown's office desk, you're going to have to charge the **** out of your car to drive anywhere more than 20 miles away. Seeing as how you should only be moving at about 15-20 mph to be safe, you'll be lucky to get home on a 40 mile round trip.

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I helped push two Tesla's that were stuck in the snow today. Why do Tesla owners think their low profile car with smooth street tires can drive in 6" of snow?

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BallerStaf2003 said:

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BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Huh?

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In order to power your car, you need electricity generated mostly by coal and natural gas power plants.
Especially right now, none of the windmills or solar panels are working. And since, in cold weather, your battery efficiency drops like Kamala at Willie Brown's office desk, you're going to have to charge the **** out of your car to drive anywhere more than 20 miles away. Seeing as how you should only be moving at about 15-20 mph to be safe, you'll be lucky to get home on a 40 mile round trip.

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Preach!

Austin Ag said:

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I helped push two Tesla's that were stuck in the snow today. Why do Tesla owners think their low profile car with smooth street tires can drive in 6" of snow?

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Most Tesla owners are pharmacists, lawyers and doctors who lack common sense and wouldn't even begin to know how to change a flat or build a camp fire. From my experience here in Houston.

We need a boiler / steam-turbine-generator winter package for these Teslas. Finding a spot for the firebox will be a challenge.

Perhaps a small trailer to tow a supply of coal to feed the boiler.

I bet you could get 1000+ miles out of that puppy.

with the roads the way they are, I don't think battery capacity is the biggest concern for Tesla owners at the moment

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I helped push two Tesla's that were stuck in the snow today. Why do Tesla owners think their low profile car with smooth street tires can drive in 6" of snow?

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Because liberals are stupid?

How about pulling that small trailer with the Tesla?

Charge the batteries while driving down the road!

A small 20-30 gallon diesel tank and you'd be in business.

Maybe a couple solar panels to maintain the starting batteries for the genset. You know ... to be more environmentally friendly, carbon offset and emissions free.

Tell Elon I want royalties.

BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Just because someone drives a Tesla doesn't mean they have a problem with O&G....

My diesel gelled on me today. I'll be honest, never had to deal with it before.

It took me about 4 hrs to get it warm enough to run again but i suppose that's about the same it takes for a tesla to charge. And lesson learned, wont happen again.

I usually tow them behind my Jeep just for days like these. So to adequately price gouge the greenies.

Austin Ag said:

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I helped push two Tesla's that were stuck in the snow today. Why do Tesla owners think their low profile car with smooth street tires can drive in 6" of snow?

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The fact they own a Tesla to begin with is a clue.

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Still more efficient than gasoline

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Potential chemical energy of coal converted to heat to boil water to create mechanical energy to create electricity, transmitted via power lines with frictional loss, electricity converted to chemical potential energy, chemical potential energy converted to electricity to create mechanical energy to move a vehicle. Cold weather makes the potential energy storage of the battery less efficient. Compared to very compact chemical energy converted to heat to make mechanical energy. Newton's second might have an issue with your logic.

Gasoline is one of the most effective ways to store a lot of energy in small volume. The problem with gas engines is inefficient conversion from excessive heat to mechanical energy without losing a lot of energy to wasted heat and creating more heat through friction. Ultimately, significant improvement of the efficiency of gas engines would be much more economical, although more difficult, than making electric cars.

Nuclear generation of electricity however changes the dynamics.

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Austin Ag said:

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I helped push two Tesla's that were stuck in the snow today. Why do Tesla owners think their low profile car with smooth street tires can drive in 6" of snow?

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The fact they own a Tesla to begin with is a clue.

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I cant stand mindless post on either side. This is mindless. Tesla's have advantages. And Tesla's have disadvantages. Which ones matter to you. Decide accordingly. Ain't the free market a great thing.

Morons on the right and left telling others what they should drive.

I can't wait for my Cybertruck...may be ugly, but damn thing should have zero problems with days like today with all that clearance.

The Y was solid on the ice/sleet last night in Chill mode, but even I acknowledge the low clearance is not ideal for these situations.

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Why would environmentalists want a coal burning car?

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The ultimate renewable fuel is whale blubber. Whale blubber is also a "use it or lose it" energy source.

Clob94 said:

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BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Huh?

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In order to power your car, you need electricity generated mostly by coal and natural gas power plants.

Especially right now, none of the windmills or solar panels are working. And since, in cold weather, your battery efficiency drops like Kamala at Willie Brown's office desk, you're going to have to charge the **** out of your car to drive anywhere more than 20 miles away. Seeing as how you should only be moving at about 15-20 mph to be safe, you'll be lucky to get home on a 40 mile round trip.

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Ohhhhh. Got it. Thanks!

One of the local city employees and I had a brief discussion this morning about batteries. If a battery is weak, temperatures of -11 would kill the battery so we were wondering how many people's cars would have no batteries today.

Like I said, still more efficient than gasoline.

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Austin Ag said:

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I helped push two Tesla's that were stuck in the snow today. Why do Tesla owners think their low profile car with smooth street tires can drive in 6" of snow?

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Most Tesla owners are pharmacists, lawyers and doctors who lack common sense and wouldn't even begin to know how to change a flat or build a camp fire. From my experience here in Houston.

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This is my neighbor to a T. Longhorn attorney with absolutely no common sense. Some of the questions he asks me are crazy.

BigBrother said:

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Remember that your range decreases by up to 40% in this weather. Make sure and use lots of coal to keep it charged. Don't want to get stuck out there.

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Whole home generator so I'm charging mine with natural gas.