"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis sent a letter Wednesday to state government officials, including Raffensperger, requesting that their offices preserve documents related to the call, a state official with knowledge of the letter said.

NBC News verified the contents of the letter, which explicitly states that the request is part of a criminal investigation into several possible charges, from false statements to "any involvement in violence or threats related to the election's administration."
A spokesperson for Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr's office confirmed that it received the letter and that officials "are in the process of reviewing and synthesizing" it. Gov. Brian Kemp's office also confirmed having received the letter."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-prosecutors-launch-criminal-probe-trump-s-efforts-overturn-biden-n1257272

Can they go after something that a sitting president did in office or is that the exclusive power of Congress?

Fulton County is an integral part of the banana republic.

And is it now illegal to question, review, and investigate an election where the voting process was materially altered?

Don't we want to ensure the process happened appropriately and within the law?

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"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis

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Let me guess: a Soros DA?

I'd pull a Democrat and delete every darn record. Get a magnet and wipe hard drives like they did during the Obama IRS scandal and claim they crashed.

I would think that broken water line would have ruined any such evidence

We may now find out if the former president pardoned himself before leaving office. If he did pardon himself, would it cover a possible charge in Georgia ?

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Can they go after something that a sitting president did in office or is that the exclusive power of Congress?

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congress has no power to go after a president for a criminal punishment. states have the power to do this.

in this particular instances, its completely stupid

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We may now find out if the former president pardoned himself before leaving office. If he did pardon himself, would it cover a possible charge in Georgia ?

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it would not.

as an aside, personally, I don't believe in the "secret pardon" arguments. Where is it kept that no one knows about it? Trump would have to prove he signed it when he was president. That would be more trouble than its worth it would seem.

BMX Bandit said:

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Ags77 said:

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We may now find out if the former president pardoned himself before leaving office. If he did pardon himself, would it cover a possible charge in Georgia ?

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it would not.

as an aside, personally, I don't believe in the "secret pardon" arguments. Where is it kept that no one knows about it? Trump would have to prove he signed it when he was president. That would be more trouble than its worth it would seem.

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Thanks for answering the question. I too, doubt a pardon exists. I have read people speculating on it.

Democrat's plan for America is to **** America and get Trump at all costs.

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etxag02 said:

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"Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis

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Let me guess: a Soros DA?

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She fits the model, so id bet yes.

In other Georgia news:

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The Georgia State Election Board voted unanimously Wednesday to move forward with an investigation of U.S. Sen. Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.) for his role serving as board chairman of a voter registration organization founded by Stacey Abrams that election officials say failed to follow deadlines, in what appears to be the latest legal step in the ongoing feud between the progressive Abrams and the state's Republican election officials.

Warnock served as chairman of the board for the New Georgia Project in 2019 when election officials claim misconduct took place.

Under Georgia election rules, voting registration organizations like the New Georgia Project have to submit completed voter applications within 10 days they are received from the voter.

But officials allege during a 2019 registration effort, some 1,268 applications were submitted to the Gwinnett County elections office after the 10 day deadline.

The Board voted 3-0 to refer the investigation to Georgia Attorney General Chris Carr (R), with the board's lone Democrat joining Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (R) in abstaining from the vote.

Warnock did not respond to requests for comment from Forbes.

Warnock resigned his position with the New Georgia Project on Jan. 28, 2020.

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Link

Obligatory: but nothing will happen.

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I'd pull a Democrat and delete every darn record. Get a magnet and wipe hard drives like they did during the Obama it's scandal and claim the crashed.

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This sounds promising.
'Fire with Fire'.
Do it.

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BMX Bandit said:

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Ags77 said:

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We may now find out if the former president pardoned himself before leaving office. If he did pardon himself, would it cover a possible charge in Georgia ?

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as an aside, personally, I don't believe in the "secret pardon" arguments. Where is it kept that no one knows about it? Trump would have to prove he signed it when he was president. That would be more trouble than its worth it would seem.

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I disagree. It would be really easy to video yourself signing it in the oval office or in the residence prior to leaving DC. He also could have done it on AF1 during the flight. It would be simple enough to call the comm center on a speaker phone for verification of the date and time.

Just stick it in the safe and never worry about it until you need it. It seems prudent to me.

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Jack Ryan: I didn't sign up for this. This is someone's bull**** political agenda. Who authorized this? Cutter?

Ritter: Cutter couldn't tie his own shoes without permission.

Jack Ryan: If I go down you're coming with me.

Ritter: Wrong again. I have an *autographed get-out-of-jail-free card*! "The President of the United States authorizes Deputy Director of the CIA Robert Ritter to conduct 'Operation Reciprocity' including all necessary funding and support. This action is deemed important to the national security of the United States etcetera, etcetera, etcetera." You don't have one of these, do you Jack? [as Ryan walks away] Gray! The world is gray, Jack!

During the Jan. 2 phone call, Trump told Raffensperger: "All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

Wow.........
If that's not ordering someone to do something criminal, I don't know what is!

Good grief....... TDS has a strong influence on the weak of mind.

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I would think that broken water line would have ruined any such evidence

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With the freeze going on now, now is the time to "break" a pipe and do just that believably.

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We may now find out if the former president pardoned himself before leaving office. If he did pardon himself, would it cover a possible charge in Georgia ?

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Do you really believe the stuff you type

Another libby wet dream this is haha

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So... the Democrats are going to spend the next 3 years repeatedly trying to get Trump in the news.

They will NEVER move past Orange-Man-Bad.

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We've always been at war with Eastasia.

in "i'm really surprised, but shouldn't be surprised given TDS" news, Fulton County actually pushing forward with this nonsense.

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An expert on Georgia's racketeering law was set to be sworn in Wednesday to help the prosecutor who's investigating potential efforts by former President Donald Trump and others to influence last year's general election.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has engaged John Floyd to serve as a special assistant district attorney to work with lawyers in her office on any cases involving allegations of racketeering, her spokesman Jeff DiSantis said.

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https://www.chron.com/news/article/RICO-expert-hired-by-prosecutor-investigating-16014954.php

Ags77 said:

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We may now find out if the former president pardoned himself before leaving office. If he did pardon himself, would it cover a possible charge in Georgia ?

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it would not.

as an aside, personally, I don't believe in the "secret pardon" arguments. Where is it kept that no one knows about it? Trump would have to prove he signed it when he was president. That would be more trouble than its worth it would seem.

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Thanks for answering the question. I too, doubt a pardon exists. I have read people speculating on it.

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Quit reading what absolute dumb****s write.

That's why I don't go to the CoronaTard bored.

A president shouldn't be calling a state to ask for votes to be "found". It's absurd to think that's appropriate and absurd to think it shouldn't be investigated.

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A president shouldn't be calling a state to ask for votes to be "found". It's absurd to think that's appropriate and absurd to think it shouldn't be investigated.

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An election official shouldn't accept or count ballots that were 'found' without a set of accompanying chain of custody documents, as required by law. It's absurd to think that's appropriate and absurd to think it shouldn't be investigated.

To break the law, he'd have to specify doing this by unlawful means. A recount could theoretically be a lawful means to attempt the same thing, so there is no reason to presume it was asking for a criminal act.

MouthBQ98 said:

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To break the law, he'd have to specify doing this by unlawful means. A recount could theoretically be a lawful means to attempt the same thing, so there is no reason to presume it was asking for a criminal act.

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He asked the official to find the specific number of votes required to put him in the lead.

Donald Trump is an unethical scumbag who has likely broken many laws, but will almost certainly never be punished for them given our unitary executive. Like so many unethical scumbag presidents before him.

BMX Bandit said:

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in "i'm really surprised, but shouldn't be surprised given TDS" news, Fulton County actually pushing forward with this nonsense.

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An expert on Georgia's racketeering law was set to be sworn in Wednesday to help the prosecutor who's investigating potential efforts by former President Donald Trump and others to influence last year's general election.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis has engaged John Floyd to serve as a special assistant district attorney to work with lawyers in her office on any cases involving allegations of racketeering, her spokesman Jeff DiSantis said.

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https://www.chron.com/news/article/RICO-expert-hired-by-prosecutor-investigating-16014954.php

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You know it's clown world when they're investigating a phone call and not the stolen election. People are going to have to put a stop to this.

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Donald Trump is an unethical scumbag who has likely broken many laws, but will almost certainly never be punished for them given our unitary executive. Like so many unethical scumbag presidents before him.

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You voted for a guy who is wholly owned by China and who puts illegals' and foreign interests before Americans'.

bad_teammate said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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To break the law, he'd have to specify doing this by unlawful means. A recount could theoretically be a lawful means to attempt the same thing, so there is no reason to presume it was asking for a criminal act.

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He asked the official to find the specific number of votes required to put him in the lead.

Donald Trump is an unethical scumbag who has likely broken many laws, but will almost certainly never be punished for them given our unitary executive. Like so many unethical scumbag presidents before him.

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And the current vegetable occupying the seat makes him look like Mother Theresa.

In other words, the margin is narrow and if that many or more votes are found by a recount that net change, the outcome will change. All the number does is state how narrow the margin is.

I can see how it can be argued as a request to commit fraud, but the wording also leaves open the possibility it was an appeal to use legal means to verify the small margin might be overturned if at least that many unlawful or uncounted votes were found by investigation or recount.

Sketchy or not, there's NO WAY it passes a beyond a reasonable doubt test in a criminal prosecution.

B-1 83 said:

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During the Jan. 2 phone call, Trump told Raffensperger: "All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state."

Wow.........
If that's not ordering someone to do something criminal, I don't know what is!

Good grief....... TDS has a strong influence on the weak of mind.

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This doesn't come close to clearing the bar for incitement. He could just be saying that you don't have to find all the illegally cast votes just enough to flip the election.

Also, it was clear to all those involved that Trump didn't have the power to order anything.