Hawg, not because you read the article, but because you bought into the fraud hype. You've always been a good poster so it's disappointing is all. Thought you were better than that. Sorry.
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FIDO_Ags said:
Maybe if the former POTUS hadn't signaled that any election he lost was fake or rigged and that he wouldn't concede, he would still be POTUS. This is what happens when you run your mouth without thinking.
"Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances, because I think this is going to drag out, and eventually I do believe he will win if we don't give an inch, and if we are as focused and relentless as the other side is,"
-Hillary Clinton
This statement right here frosts my ass like nothing else. Its the presumption that Trump winning is disaster and that everyone feels that way. It is the very statement and thought that underpins their means to an end mentality on this and so many other things. Its a "greater good" type nonsense that in their mind justifies open cheating, breaking of laws, rules, norms, manipulation and on and on.Quote:
It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster
**** all of them.
Keegan, maybe a lesson learned by her when SHE conceded.
You also remember Clinton also saying and supporting the "#Resist" crapola? I sure do.
How do you feel about when the Democrats have done this? See: 2016 election, NY-22, Stacey Abrams, and much more.FIDO_Ags said:
Maybe if the former POTUS hadn't signaled that any election he lost was fake or rigged and that he wouldn't concede, he would still be POTUS. This is what happens when you run your mouth without thinking.
BTW, Trump waving car and boat parades were stupid too. Served to alienate many Americans and they voted against him. Pep rally's only go so far, you still have to play the game and campaign to more than just your base.
They were even saying the 2020 one wasn't going to be legit.
String, I do and apparently it was more effective than pep rallies and parades!
She literally said Biden shouldn't concede if he loses
Now imagine if this had been the other way around. Imagine Trump had won and an article like this comes out about how they did the same things to ensure a Trump win.
The interference cries would be louder than a nuclear explosion and the calls for impeachment would be nonstop.
The interference cries would be louder than a nuclear explosion and the calls for impeachment would be nonstop.
aggiehawg said:
I might add that this article is an admission of concerted efforts and acts to accomplish a common goal.
In the law, that's a conspiracy.
Exactly! Where will we find a leader to help us see that they're punished?? Or better yet, destroyed???
Gigem314 said:What jubilation? There were very few large celebrations over Biden winning.Quote:
When media organizations called the race for Joe Biden on Nov. 7, jubilation broke out instead, as people thronged cities across the U.S. to celebrate the democratic process that resulted in Trump's ouster.
Can confirm, work inside the loop downtown Chicago and saw nothing, people just going about thier day (of course tons of business were pre boarded up bc of the past summer's events etc)
Carjacking did increase though.Matt_ag98 said:Gigem314 said:What jubilation? There were very few large celebrations over Biden winning.Quote:
When media organizations called the race for Joe Biden on Nov. 7, jubilation broke out instead, as people thronged cities across the U.S. to celebrate the democratic process that resulted in Trump's ouster.
Can confirm, work inside the loop downtown Chicago and saw nothing, people just going about thier day (of course tons of business were pre boarded up bc of the past summer's events etc)
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Hawg,
If someday the fraud is proven, what legal recourse does that give?
I'm thinking none, but if so, and the administration is proven to have gotten the office illegally, what repercussions can happen to the current administration and then beyond?
If someday the fraud is proven, what legal recourse does that give?
I'm thinking none, but if so, and the administration is proven to have gotten the office illegally, what repercussions can happen to the current administration and then beyond?
From the link:
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The first task was overhauling America's balky election infrastructurein the middle of a pandemic. For the thousands of local, mostly nonpartisan officials who administer elections, the most urgent need was money. They needed protective equipment like masks, gloves and hand sanitizer. They needed to pay for postcards letting people know they could vote absenteeor, in some states, to mail ballots to every voter. They needed additional staff and scanners to process ballots.
In March, activists appealed to Congress to steer COVID relief money to election administration. Led by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, more than 150 organizations signed a letter to every member of Congress seeking $2 billion in election funding. It was somewhat successful: the CARES Act, passed later that month, contained $400 million in grants to state election administrators.
But the next tranche of relief funding didn't add to that number. It wasn't going to be enough.
Private philanthropy stepped into the breach. An assortment of foundations contributed tens of millions in election-administration funding. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative chipped in $300 million. "It was a failure at the federal level that 2,500 local election officials were forced to apply for philanthropic grants to fill their needs," says Amber McReynolds, a former Denver election official who heads the nonpartisan National Vote at Home Institute.
McReynolds' two-year-old organization became a clearinghouse for a nation struggling to adapt. The institute gave secretaries of state from both parties technical advice on everything from which vendors to use to how to locate drop boxes. Local officials are the most trusted sources of election information, but few can afford a press secretary, so the institute distributed communications tool kits. In a presentation to Podhorzer's group, McReynolds detailed the importance of absentee ballots for shortening lines at polling places and preventing an election crisis.
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The Voter Participation Center, which in a normal year would have deployed canvassers door-to-door to get out the vote, instead conducted focus groups in April and May to find out what would get people to vote by mail. In August and September, it sent ballot applications to 15 million people in key states, 4.6 million of whom returned them. In mailings and digital ads, the group urged people not to wait for Election Day. "All the work we have done for 17 years was built for this moment of bringing democracy to people's doorsteps," says Tom Lopach, the center's CEO.
Amazing.Quote:
The most important takeaway from Quinn's research, however, was that engaging with toxic content only made it worse. "When you get attacked, the instinct is to push back, call it out, say, 'This isn't true,'" Quinn says. "But the more engagement something gets, the more the platforms boost it. The algorithm reads that as, 'Oh, this is popular; people want more of it.'"
The solution, she concluded, was to pressure platforms to enforce their rules, both by removing content or accounts that spread disinformation and by more aggressively policing it in the first place. "The platforms have policies against certain types of malign behavior, but they haven't been enforcing them," she says.
Quinn's research gave ammunition to advocates pushing social media platforms to take a harder line.
In November 2019, Mark Zuckerberg invited nine civil rights leaders to dinner at his home, where they warned him about the danger of the election-related falsehoods that were already spreading unchecked. "It took pushing, urging, conversations, brainstorming, all of that to get to a place where we ended up with more rigorous rules and enforcement," says Vanita Gupta, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, who attended the dinner and also met with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and others. (Gupta has been nominated for Associate Attorney General by President Biden.) "It was a struggle, but we got to the point where they understood the problem. Was it enough? Probably not. Was it later than we wanted? Yes. But it was really important, given the level of official disinformation, that they had those rules in place and were tagging things and taking them down."
FIDO_Ags said:
Maybe if the former POTUS hadn't signaled that any election he lost was fake or rigged and that he wouldn't concede, he would still be POTUS. This is what happens when you run your mouth without thinking.
BTW, Trump waving car and boat parades were stupid too. Served to alienate many Americans and they voted against him. Pep rally's only go so far, you still have to play the game and campaign to more than just your base.
This is your take away after reading the article?? Moron.
Oh of course lot y is here defending his comrades. Disgusting article, I despise these left wing pieces of **** more then they do unborn babies.
This is the most damning admission I've ever seen. This article includes just about everything people were called "conspiracy theorists" over.aggiehawg said:
From the link:Quote:
The first task was overhauling America's balky election infrastructurein the middle of a pandemic. For the thousands of local, mostly nonpartisan officials who administer elections, the most urgent need was money. They needed protective equipment like masks, gloves and hand sanitizer. They needed to pay for postcards letting people know they could vote absenteeor, in some states, to mail ballots to every voter. They needed additional staff and scanners to process ballots.
In March, activists appealed to Congress to steer COVID relief money to election administration. Led by the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, more than 150 organizations signed a letter to every member of Congress seeking $2 billion in election funding. It was somewhat successful: the CARES Act, passed later that month, contained $400 million in grants to state election administrators.
But the next tranche of relief funding didn't add to that number. It wasn't going to be enough.
Private philanthropy stepped into the breach. An assortment of foundations contributed tens of millions in election-administration funding. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative chipped in $300 million. "It was a failure at the federal level that 2,500 local election officials were forced to apply for philanthropic grants to fill their needs," says Amber McReynolds, a former Denver election official who heads the nonpartisan National Vote at Home Institute.
McReynolds' two-year-old organization became a clearinghouse for a nation struggling to adapt. The institute gave secretaries of state from both parties technical advice on everything from which vendors to use to how to locate drop boxes. Local officials are the most trusted sources of election information, but few can afford a press secretary, so the institute distributed communications tool kits. In a presentation to Podhorzer's group, McReynolds detailed the importance of absentee ballots for shortening lines at polling places and preventing an election crisis.Quote:
The Voter Participation Center, which in a normal year would have deployed canvassers door-to-door to get out the vote, instead conducted focus groups in April and May to find out what would get people to vote by mail. In August and September, it sent ballot applications to 15 million people in key states, 4.6 million of whom returned them. In mailings and digital ads, the group urged people not to wait for Election Day. "All the work we have done for 17 years was built for this moment of bringing democracy to people's doorsteps," says Tom Lopach, the center's CEO.Amazing.Quote:
The most important takeaway from Quinn's research, however, was that engaging with toxic content only made it worse. "When you get attacked, the instinct is to push back, call it out, say, 'This isn't true,'" Quinn says. "But the more engagement something gets, the more the platforms boost it. The algorithm reads that as, 'Oh, this is popular; people want more of it.'"
The solution, she concluded, was to pressure platforms to enforce their rules, both by removing content or accounts that spread disinformation and by more aggressively policing it in the first place. "The platforms have policies against certain types of malign behavior, but they haven't been enforcing them," she says.
Quinn's research gave ammunition to advocates pushing social media platforms to take a harder line.
In November 2019, Mark Zuckerberg invited nine civil rights leaders to dinner at his home, where they warned him about the danger of the election-related falsehoods that were already spreading unchecked. "It took pushing, urging, conversations, brainstorming, all of that to get to a place where we ended up with more rigorous rules and enforcement," says Vanita Gupta, president and CEO of the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, who attended the dinner and also met with Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey and others. (Gupta has been nominated for Associate Attorney General by President Biden.) "It was a struggle, but we got to the point where they understood the problem. Was it enough? Probably not. Was it later than we wanted? Yes. But it was really important, given the level of official disinformation, that they had those rules in place and were tagging things and taking them down."
Oh, so we're calling election fraud a democratic process now?Blackhorse83 said:
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
Very long but tells the story.
A weird thing happened right after the Nov. 3 election: nothing.
The nation was braced for chaos. Liberal groups had vowed to take to the streets, planning hundreds of protests across the country. Right-wing militias were girding for battle. In a poll before Election Day, 75% of Americans voiced concern about violence.
Instead, an eerie quiet descended. As President Trump refused to concede, the response was not mass action but crickets. When media organizations called the race for Joe Biden on Nov. 7, jubilation broke out instead, as people thronged cities across the U.S. to celebrate the democratic process that resulted in Trump's ouster.
America the Beautiful
1776 - 2020
1776 - 2020
Why publish this?
Why admit to brainwashed masses that the election was rigged (regardless of however they chose to spin it)?
They only publish bad news for them in order to control the narrative ahead of information coming to light.
What are they worried is coming out in the next couple weeks?
Why admit to brainwashed masses that the election was rigged (regardless of however they chose to spin it)?
They only publish bad news for them in order to control the narrative ahead of information coming to light.
What are they worried is coming out in the next couple weeks?
Here's the rest of the confessionaggiehawg said:
Quasi-confession??
America the Beautiful
1776 - 2020
1776 - 2020
It starts if enough constituents put pressure on the House and Senate representatives to force Biden and Kamala to resign. That is ultimately is what happened to Nixon. He lost his support and was informed he would be impeached and removed if he did not step down. That would lead to Pelosi being Acting President. (Unless there is a challenge to the Succession Act on the grounds that as an elected person she is not an "officer" of the Executive Branch and should not be in the line of succession. Long shot and would take a long time to get a SCOTUS decision.)annie88 said:
Hawg,
If someday the fraud is proven, what legal recourse does that give?
I'm thinking none, but if so, and the administration is proven to have gotten the office illegally, what repercussions can happen to the current administration and then beyond?
Is that a realistic scenario in 2021? Likely not. But during 2022 it will be an election issue for the midterms. If and it's a big IF GOP retakes both the House and Senate, then impeachment and removal of both Biden and Harris and McCarthy becomes Acting President until after the 2024 election.
I don't see any other Constitutional solution.
"The fraud hype."FIDO_Ags said:
Hawg, not because you read the article, but because you bought into the fraud hype. You've always been a good poster so it's disappointing is all. Thought you were better than that. Sorry.
Speaking of be better than that, look in the mirror pal, I'm sorry you've fallen for all the Democrat/MSM lies. You must be in heaven over the past few weeks with them flying constantly. #gullible
Thanks. 2022 will be interesting. The BS we have to go through with this perverted. Criminal administration before then will be despicable, my God the last few weeks have been a horror show, but we'll see what happens. Doubt Biden will be around by then anyway, but would like to see Kamala get hers in spades.
However, this comment is a frightening prospect. However, I don't think Pelosi has long either, she ain't well either in the head or physically.
However, this comment is a frightening prospect. However, I don't think Pelosi has long either, she ain't well either in the head or physically.
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That would lead to Pelosi being Acting President
The line of succession goes like this:annie88 said:
Thanks. 2022 will be interesting. The BS we have to go through with this perverted. Criminal administration before then will be despicable, my God the last few weeks have been a horror show, but we'll see what happens. Doubt Biden will be around by then anyway, but would like to see Kamala get hers in spades.
However, this comment is a frightening prospect. However, I don't think Pelosi has long either, she ain't well either in the head or physically.Quote:
That would lead to Pelosi being Acting President
VP
Speaker of the House
President pro tempore of the Senate
Secretary of State
It is my (and some legal scholars') contention that as elected officials, neither the Speaker nor Prez pro tempore of the Senate are properly in said line but there has never been a factual situation wherein that could be challenged in court. I'd wager if either Pelosi or Leahy became Acting President, there would be a challenge. Then again, under the "standing" definition that has contracted recently, not sure who could challenge it.
I have said since November that we are in uncharted waters right now. And I'll now add will be until January 2025.
You know why. The same reasons why serial killers leave clues at the scene of the crime for the cops. Because DEEP down in the recesses of their brain, they have to get caught so they can get the credit.Albatross Necklace said:
Why publish this?
Why admit to brainwashed masses that the election was rigged (regardless of however they chose to spin it)?
They only publish bad news for them in order to control the narrative ahead of information coming to light.
What are they worried is coming out in the next couple weeks?
It must be acute cases of lead poisoning. Only way to prevent this from happening in the future. The French used the guillotine. It made a statement. We need to use something with a little more pop.annie88 said:
Hawg,
If someday the fraud is proven, what legal recourse does that give?
I'm thinking none, but if so, and the administration is proven to have gotten the office illegally, what repercussions can happen to the current administration and then beyond?
Are you sure nothing is going to happen next week?
Wictor is a bit over his skis with that prediction. He would be on solid ground were this actually a trial in an Article III court. Called "opening the door," and the House Managers certainly have done that.Albatross Necklace said:
Are you sure nothing is going to happen next week?
But an impeachment trial in the Senate does not have the same rules. And the Senate just makes their own rules for how the trial will be conducted.
With that caveat, we'll see how it progresses.
I think its the pure hubris of knowing nothing will be done. With Biden now controlling the DOJ, and using the propaganda and suppression arms of media and social media, there simply won't be anywhere the backlash can happen. The fallout of the Capitol riot sapped whatever will there might have been of any Republican in Congress to do much so we know they are not going to do anything.Albatross Necklace said:
Why publish this?
Why admit to brainwashed masses that the election was rigged (regardless of however they chose to spin it)?
They only publish bad news for them in order to control the narrative ahead of information coming to light.
What are they worried is coming out in the next couple weeks?
Also, in many people's minds, anything should have been done to get rid of Trump. Legal or illegal. That's what drove a lot of this as noted in the passage cited by the OP...that getting rid of Trump was righteous and that him winning a fair election would be disaster.
Agree. The fact that there was zero fallout from the legal debauchery that was the Mueller Investigation, they feel bulletproof.Quote:
I think its the pure hubris of knowing nothing will be done. With Biden now controlling the DOJ, and using the propaganda arms of media and social media, there simply won't be anywhere the backlash can happen. The fallout of the Capitol riot sapped whatever will there might have been of any Republican in Congress to do much so we know they are not going to do anything.
There is a huge "but" coming. They revealed just enough to get some state Attorney Generals' attention and a starting point. If enough of them band together???? Who knows?
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I think its the pure hubris of knowing nothing will be done.
Unfortunately I think it's because they are so consumed in their worldview that they think they're being noble heroes to save us all and our reaction to this would be "wow, thank you!"
In reality it's one of the scariest articles I've ever read. Confirms a lot of what everyone has suspected through various times in US history, but it's just astonishing what has been created. And the sad part is the majority of Americans won't know about this, still don't know Russiagate was fake Dem disinfo that was exploited and abused by the Biden administration or any of that.
Why? The ruling class combined with very few 'real' problems has led to moochers getting Netflix and smartphones without having to work and nobody wanting to be informed or better themselves because the new 'floor' isn't that bad for many, especially when you don't have to try or work hard/at all.
A large portion of this country lives in a new type of serfdom and they don't even know it.
Yep, its right there in black and white in the article. And its largely why the coastal/urban elites and media class wrote off 75 million Americans as redneck simpletons, racists, uneducated fools worthy of contempt. WE can't be trusted to vote the right way, so they had to fix it to overcome us.Bunk Moreland said:Quote:
I think its the pure hubris of knowing nothing will be done.
Unfortunately I think it's because they are so consumed in their worldview that they think they're being noble heroes to save us all and our reaction to this would be "wow, thank you!"
But I don't think it's just the racist rednecks, etc. They're 'afraid' misinformation will sway 'good, normal people'
Either way that article is terrifying and I pray in 30 years we look back on that as a dark moment but glad the country didn't fully go authoritarian/fascist 'for the good of the people'
Either way that article is terrifying and I pray in 30 years we look back on that as a dark moment but glad the country didn't fully go authoritarian/fascist 'for the good of the people'
Problem being they only define "good normal people" as those who are brainwashed to vote for them. That's why the media has to be the critical arm of containing the information available. Brainwashing cannot happen with an independent and honest press.Bunk Moreland said:
But I don't think it's just the racist rednecks, etc. They're 'afraid' misinformation will sway 'good, normal people'
Either way that article is terrifying and I pray in 30 years we look back on that as a dark moment but glad the country didn't fully go authoritarian/fascist 'for the good of the people'
So the Dems plied, threatened, coerced, flattered and use whatever means they could to ensure Big Tech and their media platforms only published the "approved" news. Pravda. Reminds me of this.
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