GM to sell only electric vehicles by 2035

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In reply to Shanked Punt • 1:55p, 1/28/21
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Shanked Punt said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

This is great news all around, though hopefully they can bring in the deadline yet another five years or so. Its now time to get all the infrastructure in place. This can't come soon enough to help greatly reduce our dependency on oil.


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DETROIT General Motors wants to end production of all diesel- and gasoline-powered cars, trucks and SUVs by 2035 and shift its entire new fleet to electric vehicles as part of a broader plan to become carbon neutral by 2040, the company said Thursday.

The company plans to use 100% renewable energy to power its U.S. facilities by 2030 and global facilities by 2035 five years ahead of a previously announced goal.
Yes, lets turn over our transportation network to the Chinese and other countries not friendly to the US....

the short sightedness of the 'electric vehicle' crowd never cease to amaze me. But then it's you and your short sightedness is pretty limitless.
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In reply to Shanked Punt • 1:55p, 1/28/21
Shanked Punt said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

This is great news all around, though hopefully they can bring in the deadline yet another five years or so. Its now time to get all the infrastructure in place. This can't come soon enough to help greatly reduce our dependency on oil.


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DETROIT General Motors wants to end production of all diesel- and gasoline-powered cars, trucks and SUVs by 2035 and shift its entire new fleet to electric vehicles as part of a broader plan to become carbon neutral by 2040, the company said Thursday.

The company plans to use 100% renewable energy to power its U.S. facilities by 2030 and global facilities by 2035 five years ahead of a previously announced goal.


How does this impact someone like me who must consistently carry ery heavy loads and gooseneck trailers and is very tough on their truck?

Will electric be able to handle my daily routine?
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In reply to AgBQ-00 • 1:55p, 1/28/21
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AgBQ-00 said:
Where are we going to source the rare earth minerals for the batteries? And how are they going to be mined without environmental destruction now associated with mining them? Also how will we maintain mobility etc when that very finite resource is gone? We going back to horse and buggy and sail boats?


China. They have 90% of the market. Libs/Greens love to scream about the environment (only the US environment).
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1:55p, 1/28/21
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Millions of Chevy truck owners are going to have to hold their noses and go Ford or Dodge.

GM wants to get out of the auto business if they want to ditch gasoline.
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In reply to Rapier108 • 1:56p, 1/28/21
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Rapier108 said:
In other words, GM wants to go out of business.

Of course you think it is a good idea because the unicorn farts and rainbows are going to provide all that energy to charge the batteries.
Don't worry, the feds will bail them out and shaft the bond holders all over again.
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In reply to Shanked Punt • 1:56p, 1/28/21
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MouthBQ98 said:
We don't have enough lithium. We simply don't.
Just because lithium is dominate today, doesn't mean there won't be something better to replace it by the time 2035 rolls around.
Algae?

Air?

Wind?

Flowers?

Are you just making s*** up at this point?

I would like to think 10+ year plans are based on whims and hopes and wishes...
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In reply to heineman78 • 1:56p, 1/28/21
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Shanked loves to post and dissapear.
He cropdusted the politics board yet again.
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In reply to Shanked Punt • 1:57p, 1/28/21
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Ridiculous virtue signaling.
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In reply to Who?mikejones! • 1:57p, 1/28/21
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Agthatbuilds said:
Shanked Punt said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

This is great news all around, though hopefully they can bring in the deadline yet another five years or so. Its now time to get all the infrastructure in place. This can't come soon enough to help greatly reduce our dependency on oil.


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DETROIT General Motors wants to end production of all diesel- and gasoline-powered cars, trucks and SUVs by 2035 and shift its entire new fleet to electric vehicles as part of a broader plan to become carbon neutral by 2040, the company said Thursday.

The company plans to use 100% renewable energy to power its U.S. facilities by 2030 and global facilities by 2035 five years ahead of a previously announced goal.


How does this impact someone like me who must consistently carry ery heavy loads and gooseneck trailers and is very tough on their truck?

Will electric be able to handle my daily routine?
Duracell has powered many of my kids battery powered remote control cars. They have carried barbies and rocks and other things. I think you will be good to go...
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1:58p, 1/28/21
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The physics and chemistry of batteries has changed only very incrementally in 3 decades. There's unlikely to be a battery breakthrough implemented in 10 or 15 years that we're not already developing now. There was some though about capacitors but they don't tend to store power very long or discharge it steadily.

There's really nothing revolutionary on the horizon.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 1:59p, 1/28/21
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MouthBQ98 said:
We don't have enough lithium. We simply don't.

Its like people think moving to battery powered cars means no other forms of raw materials need to be stripped from the earth.

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2:00p, 1/28/21
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This reminds me of A&Ms grandiose Vision 2020 plan. Nothing but a bunch of "high minded" buzz words vomited up to placate the left. All the while GM realizes this won't come anywhere close to fruition.
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In reply to Shanked Punt • 2:00p, 1/28/21
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It also doesn't mean something better WILL come along either. Bad business plan.
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2:01p, 1/28/21
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Shanked another
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In reply to Jbob04 • 2:01p, 1/28/21
Jbob04 said:
Ol Rock said:
I wonder where all of that electricity will come from?



lol, coal is dying away. electric generation from coal in 2035 will be single digit small potatoes.
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2:01p, 1/28/21
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Shanked, you've lost your spot, might as well leave this board. Much more effective trolls have replaced you.
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2:02p, 1/28/21
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That's a lot of dead lithium-ion batteries to bury somewhere or destroy causing catastrophic environmental issues.
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2:02p, 1/28/21
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So green. So environment.
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2:02p, 1/28/21
So yet another reason to fix up a pre-computer vehicle or two. Oh and fix up an old trailer mounted generator to charge all these fools shut down on the side of the road and charge whatever I want to get them back on the road.
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In reply to heineman78 • 2:02p, 1/28/21
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heineman78 said:
Shanked loves to post and dissapear.
I'd leave the bathroom too if I dropped a reeking turd like that
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In reply to Earl_Rudder • 2:03p, 1/28/21
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Millions of Chevy truck owners are going to have to hold their noses and go Ford or Dodge.

GM wants to get out of the auto business if they want to ditch gasoline.


Too late. They dont consider themselves to be a car company. They consider themselves to a transportation and technology company.
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In reply to MouthBQ98 • 2:04p, 1/28/21
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MouthBQ98 said:
The physics and chemistry of batteries has changed only very incrementally in 3 decades. There's unlikely to be a battery breakthrough implemented in 10 or 15 years that we're not already developing now. There was some though about capacitors but they don't tend to store power very long or discharge it steadily.

There's really nothing revolutionary on the horizon.
...and something would have to be on the horizon now to be in wide-spread use in 14 years.
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In reply to Shanked Punt • 2:05p, 1/28/21
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Shanked Punt said:
Jbob04 said:
Ol Rock said:
I wonder where all of that electricity will come from?



lol, coal is dying away. electric generation from coal in 2035 will be single digit small potatoes.

Hope you enjoy sitting in the dark because wind and solar won't keep the power on.
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2:08p, 1/28/21
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Time to head to Reddit and plan a massive short on GM!
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In reply to jefe95 • 2:09p, 1/28/21
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In other news, GM plans to be bankrupt again by 2026


With a government bailout.
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In reply to Pookers • 2:10p, 1/28/21
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Pookers said:
Shanked Punt said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

This is great news all around, though hopefully they can bring in the deadline yet another five years or so. Its now time to get all the infrastructure in place. This can't come soon enough to help greatly reduce our dependency on oil.


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DETROIT General Motors wants to end production of all diesel- and gasoline-powered cars, trucks and SUVs by 2035 and shift its entire new fleet to electric vehicles as part of a broader plan to become carbon neutral by 2040, the company said Thursday.

The company plans to use 100% renewable energy to power its U.S. facilities by 2030 and global facilities by 2035 five years ahead of a previously announced goal.
What kind of power plants will we produce to get the required electricity to charge the batteries? Solar and Wind are not suitable for stable base loads.
Nuclear is the best option, supplemented by hydro, wind & solar, with combined cycle natural gas and CO2 capture as back-up.
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In reply to Earl_Rudder • 2:12p, 1/28/21
Earl_Rudder said:
Millions of Chevy truck owners are going to have to hold their noses and go Ford or Dodge.

GM wants to get out of the auto business if they want to ditch gasoline.


Toyota, a real American company will welcome their business.
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In reply to Signel • 2:12p, 1/28/21
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Signel said:
By 2035, the battery technology should be strong enough to support 1000+ miles a charge. I don't see why this is much of a big deal.

And pigs will fly
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2:12p, 1/28/21
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California has rolling brown outs all the time now. What are they going to do when they add millions of EVs to their (lack of) grid?

Especially since most charging will be done at night when solar and wind power production are at their nadir.
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In reply to Ag with kids • 2:13p, 1/28/21
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Ag with kids said:
California has rolling brown outs all the time now. What are they going to do when they add millions of EVs to their (lack of) grid?

Especially since most charging will be done at night when solar and wind power production are at their nadir.

They won't worry about that minor detail
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In reply to JamesE4 • 2:14p, 1/28/21
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JamesE4 said:
Pookers said:
Shanked Punt said:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/28/general-motors-plans-to-exclusively-offer-electric-vehicles-by-2035.html

This is great news all around, though hopefully they can bring in the deadline yet another five years or so. Its now time to get all the infrastructure in place. This can't come soon enough to help greatly reduce our dependency on oil.


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DETROIT General Motors wants to end production of all diesel- and gasoline-powered cars, trucks and SUVs by 2035 and shift its entire new fleet to electric vehicles as part of a broader plan to become carbon neutral by 2040, the company said Thursday.

The company plans to use 100% renewable energy to power its U.S. facilities by 2030 and global facilities by 2035 five years ahead of a previously announced goal.
What kind of power plants will we produce to get the required electricity to charge the batteries? Solar and Wind are not suitable for stable base loads.
Nuclear is the best option, supplemented by hydro, wind & solar, with combined cycle natural gas and CO2 capture as back-up.
Good luck getting by the enviro freaks with nuclear and hydro.
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In reply to Jbob04 • 2:16p, 1/28/21
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Jbob04 said:
Ag with kids said:
California has rolling brown outs all the time now. What are they going to do when they add millions of EVs to their (lack of) grid?

Especially since most charging will be done at night when solar and wind power production are at their nadir.

They won't worry about that minor detail
To be fair, I see this as a plus to the plan.
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2:17p, 1/28/21
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**** GM anyway.
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