This certainly seems like the fund investors are worried about the fund manager(s) selling for political reasons. So, they are preemptively telling them not to sell.

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Remington didn't go bankrupt because of politics.

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When they turned to capital groups for money they were rejected. Politics didn't cause their bankruptcy, but it did accelerate it.

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I can absolutely see that happening, makes total sense.

Wokeness was the straw that broke the sick camels back.

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Is it politics or the fact that you'd be almost guaranteed to underperform the S&P 500 if you didn't hold AMZN, AAPL, etc?

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Again, this has nothing to do with performance. People we represent are telling us that if we sell these companies for any reason they are moving their money.

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Aren't those stocks the ones responsible for a heavy share of the gains of the last twenty or so years?

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This has nothing to do with the last 20 years. The pressure on funds and investment groups started Friday and continued through today. I have never seen threats like this in my 18 year career.

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I wonder if it's orchestrated.

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This certainly seems like the fund investors are worried about the fund manager(s) selling for political reasons. So, they are preemptively telling them not to sell.

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That is not entirely correct. The emails I have read mostly threaten fund managers that if they sell Twitter or Google for any reason this week their money will be pulled immediately.

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I think you guys are overestimating the number of people that care about politics over returns.

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If it's coordinated then they're insulated - even likely so if the market overall moved down they'd still stay in those stocks as opposed to others

Maybe the message is also "we seek safety in big tech" and not some upstart like Paler that can be marginalized by big tech (AWS)??

I'd bet you are correct

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Is it politics or the fact that you'd be almost guaranteed to underperform the S&P 500 if you didn't hold AMZN, AAPL, etc?

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Again, this has nothing to do with performance. People we represent are telling us that if we sell these companies for any reason they are moving their money.

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Aren't those stocks the ones responsible for a heavy share of the gains of the last twenty or so years?

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This has nothing to do with the last 20 years. The pressure on funds and investment groups started Friday and continued through today. I have never seen threats like this in my 18 year career.

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I wonder if it's orchestrated.

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Unions are always orchestrated. I have originated dozens of deals with them. It's never "here is my money, do your job". Always a string attached.

Again - what is the issue? It's their money or money that they apparently have investment decisions over.

Also, this isn't anything new. Lots of PE funds, etc. have been pulling funds from traditional energy for awhile now and moving it to what they view as cleaner options at the request of LPs. Their money so they certainly can choose where and with who it is invested.

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Again - what is the issue? It's their money or money that they apparently have investment decisions over.

Also, this isn't anything new. Lots of PE funds, etc. have been pulling funds from traditional energy for awhile now and moving it to what they view as cleaner options at the request of LPs. Their money so they certainly can choose where and with who it is invested.

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This is entirely new. I've been in this business 18 years. But if you want to keep your head in the sand go ahead.

Heads not in the sand. I do this as well and what I said is accurate. But again - what is the issue with people communicating views on their own money? That is what I'm scratching my head over.

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Heads not in the sand. I do this as well and what I said is accurate. But again - what is the issue with people communicating views on their own money? That is what I'm scratching my head over.

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As if this is about "people communicating views on their own money".

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If you are worried about Remington, your allocation may be too high.

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You missed my point. We don't own any Remington. Gun and ammo sales at an all-time high and Remington bankrupt. You think that was free market factors?

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I think it's stock specific. Smith & Wesson is doing fine.

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Doing fine during a time when they should be making all time high profits, and everyone should be buying the stock. Again, you're making my point.

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Lol. It happened with big tobacco. It will happen to other industries too. I'm not going to let it affect my investment strategy. The market doesn't care what you or I think anyway.

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This isn't about what you or I think. Trillions of dollars in the free market is being directed to liberal leaning companies and away from conservative ones no matter what. The fact that you don't think it's a big deal is hilarious.

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chic fil a seems to be doing just fine.

So they want to support companies that will take a financial hit (shot or long term) based on recent events. I don't follow the outrage of people controlling their own capital. It is their capital to control.

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If you are worried about Remington, your allocation may be too high.

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You missed my point. We don't own any Remington. Gun and ammo sales at an all-time high and Remington bankrupt. You think that was free market factors?

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I think it's stock specific. Smith & Wesson is doing fine.

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Doing fine during a time when they should be making all time high profits, and everyone should be buying the stock. Again, you're making my point.

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Lol. It happened with big tobacco. It will happen to other industries too. I'm not going to let it affect my investment strategy. The market doesn't care what you or I think anyway.

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This isn't about what you or I think. Trillions of dollars in the free market is being directed to liberal leaning companies and away from conservative ones no matter what. The fact that you don't think it's a big deal is hilarious.

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chic fil a seems to be doing just fine.

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Have they supported Trump in any way. I haven't followed it.

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If you are worried about Remington, your allocation may be too high.

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You missed my point. We don't own any Remington. Gun and ammo sales at an all-time high and Remington bankrupt. You think that was free market factors?

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I think it's stock specific. Smith & Wesson is doing fine.

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Doing fine during a time when they should be making all time high profits, and everyone should be buying the stock. Again, you're making my point.

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Lol. It happened with big tobacco. It will happen to other industries too. I'm not going to let it affect my investment strategy. The market doesn't care what you or I think anyway.

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This isn't about what you or I think. Trillions of dollars in the free market is being directed to liberal leaning companies and away from conservative ones no matter what. The fact that you don't think it's a big deal is hilarious.

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chic fil a seems to be doing just fine.

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What's ChicFilas stock ticket again?

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If you are worried about Remington, your allocation may be too high.

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You missed my point. We don't own any Remington. Gun and ammo sales at an all-time high and Remington bankrupt. You think that was free market factors?

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I think it's stock specific. Smith & Wesson is doing fine.

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Doing fine during a time when they should be making all time high profits, and everyone should be buying the stock. Again, you're making my point.

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Lol. It happened with big tobacco. It will happen to other industries too. I'm not going to let it affect my investment strategy. The market doesn't care what you or I think anyway.

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This isn't about what you or I think. Trillions of dollars in the free market is being directed to liberal leaning companies and away from conservative ones no matter what. The fact that you don't think it's a big deal is hilarious.

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chic fil a seems to be doing just fine.

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What's ChicFilas stock ticket again?

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Exactly. It's privately held. No bearing on the conversation

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Again - what is the issue? It's their money or money that they apparently have investment decisions over.

Also, this isn't anything new. Lots of PE funds, etc. have been pulling funds from traditional energy for awhile now and moving it to what they view as cleaner options at the request of LPs. Their money so they certainly can choose where and with who it is invested.

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This is entirely new. I've been in this business 18 years. But if you want to keep your head in the sand go ahead.

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I believe what you are saying but this seems like a huge risk to your business. You are almost moving from a fund manager to a broker for individual accounts. What happens when you start getting different direction from these people telling you what to buy and sell? At that point, do you need to start creating new funds for each customer?

It seems like this could really impact your returns and make you (as the fund manager) or your company look really bad if you perform below market because your customers are controlling all of your decisions.

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Again - what is the issue? It's their money or money that they apparently have investment decisions over.

Also, this isn't anything new. Lots of PE funds, etc. have been pulling funds from traditional energy for awhile now and moving it to what they view as cleaner options at the request of LPs. Their money so they certainly can choose where and with who it is invested.

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This is entirely new. I've been in this business 18 years. But if you want to keep your head in the sand go ahead.

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I believe what you are saying but this seems like a huge risk to your business. You are almost moving from a fund manager to a broker for individual accounts. What happens when you start getting different direction from these people telling you what to buy and sell? At that point, do you need to start creating new funds for each customer?

It seems like this could really impact your returns and make you (as the fund manager) or your company look really bad if you perform below market because your customers are controlling all of your decisions.

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Tomorrow will be very interesting.

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Okay. I just wanted to make sure. That was not a swipe at you

Thanks for doing the research for me.

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Anytime. Trump ending mining regulations last week was absolutely huge. Feel free to bump this anytime.

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Can you text me I have a question. My wife can not find on robin hood and I want to get in this stock

Thanks. If you do not want to that is okay I understand

979-eight two o -l87o

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It's not on robinhood. But will be soon. Texting now.

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ABLM....a penny stock.....you are encouraging investing in a penny stock?

And you have the authority to make it available on robinhood?

Bookmarked!

I'm dumping my tech stocks today. Not that it will make a difference but I'm doing it on principle.

This is just my take nothing more

What I believe is happening is that they are getting pressure from the higher ups not to sell amazon. Google. Apple. Facebook. This week

It is vitual signaling if that is the right word

They will not care what they do next week it is just this week because if they sell this week it is a sign that people are pissed at what these monopolies are doing to american citizens with the censorship

I am not going to suggest anything about the OP's motivations on this thread,

When anyone drops the name of a penny stock out of the blue that should raise a red flag.
I have made some money off of penny stocks myself. I still hold a few shares of those stock after making a profit and being able to maintain the rest of the shares at no net cost to me.

Penny stocks are notorious for Pump and Dump.

You buy thousands of shares (or more) at say 25 cents. Then the stock will be hyped. At some point it will gain momentum if enough people do it. Once it hits a run, the larger owners will dump the stock, the price will plummet and you will be left holding the bag at a loss.

When I am looking through Penny stocks if I see one of these videos for that company I know it's something to be wary of.



Invest your money however you see fit. You can make money off of them, but more often than not you will be the guy holding the bag at the end.

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i thought all hedge funds relied on penny stocks?

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If you notice I made exactly one stock pick. ABML.

We rely on our ability to raise capital and our ability to get in and out of all markets quickly.

In my personal accounts I trade penny stocks 75-80% of the time. It fits my risk profile. Right now I like ABML and of you want an additional pick...GNUS.

And ABML is not on Robinhood for those asking. It's OTC.

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im not taking any stock tips from MFBarnes.

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I don't know who that is. But don't take stock advice from anyone. Do your own research.

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i thought all hedge funds relied on penny stocks?

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If you notice I made exactly one stock pick. ABML.

We rely on our ability to raise capital and our ability to get in and out of all markets quickly.

In my personal accounts I trade penny stocks 75-80% of the time. It fits my risk profile. Right now I like ABML and of you want an additional pick...GNUS.

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19 employees?!?!?!

Genius Brands International, Inc., a content and brand management company, creates and licenses multimedia content for toddlers to tweens worldwide. The company offers Rainbow Rangers, an animated series about the adventures of seven magical girls; Llama Llama, an animated series; SpacePop is a music and fashion driven animated property; Thomas Edison's Secret Lab, a STEM-based comedy adventure series; and Warren Buffet's Secret Millionaire's Club, an animated series for kids. It also develops animated series, such as Superhero Kindergarten and Baby Genius. In addition, the company acts as a licensing agent for Llama Llama. It serves various customers and partners, including broadcasters, consumer products licensees, manufacturers, wholesalers, and retailers. The company was formerly known as Pacific Entertainment Corporation and changed its name to Genius Brands International, Inc. in October 2011. Genius Brands International, Inc. was founded in 2006 and is based in Beverly Hills, California

Wow, exponential growth!

Okay. For some reason the op has pissed you off and I understand so i stead of bashing him

Please lets just get it out there right now. Why are you so mad so that small people like me can understand

That way when you post stuff like Wow really great growth some of us can understand

And I understand about the above topic Does not look great

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Okay. For some reason the op has pissed you off and I understand so i stead of bashing him

Please lets just get it out there right now. Why are you so mad so that small people like me can understand

That way when you post stuff like Wow really great growth some of us can understand

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If you're referencing my post.....

I'm not mad, I'm highly skeptical and pointing out what should be obvious to any investor of any type.

As alluded to previously, penny stocks are for nothing but speculation!

That's not to say that I haven't participated in such speculation. Had a nice little hit back in '99 with a small company symbol DDMI involved in Y2K.

Vanguard CEO with live webcast tonight at 6 CST. I am registered and will send in a question regarding this topic.

I doubt it will be addressed but it's worth a try...

GNUS is a perfect example for a Pump and Dump

I actually own some net free shares and will hang on to them as a gamble at this point since essentially they were free and yes I made a decent profit off of the investment.

Look at the 1 year chart





Take a .20 cent stock buy thousands of shares
Company announces a few additional brands they bring on.
People that bought in start selling the hype.
The stock shoots up to $7.00 plus.
The early investors dump the shares and the stock price plummets

I'm not saying GNUS won't do well in the future, but do you want to be the guy who bought in at $4.00 then it dumps to a few cents?