Its not over by any calculation until at minimum receives the military intelligence report on possible interference---I think that is Dec 18th if the 45 day count is correct. With the raid on Solarwinds yesterday, the indications of the possibility of direct foreign meddling with machines is real, however unverified.

More to the point, with no way to test validity, the election and final options for January 6th should not be ruled out. Especially need to see if Senate is stolen.

No reason to concede that serves any purpose or favors any but the Democrats and MSM.

Remember on election night when we were all laughing and saying to the Dems "you are here" on a list of excuses/paths to the presidency. Trump and the more easily influenced nuked that meme...it's bordering on insanity at this point.

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infinity ag said:

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The electoral college folks have voted...

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You may have missed this
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3165981

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What's there to miss? Trump electors in states he didn't win cast show votes.

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It keeps Trump's chances alive when it goes to congress.

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Uh no. There is no chance

Biden will never be legitimate

Vader Was Framed said:

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He can never admit he lost.

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Democrats haven't admitted they've lost a Presidential election since 1988.

larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Just wondering if you felt embarrassed for HRC when she went on countless talk shows, wrote books, did seminars, etc. for several years saying Trump was not the legitimate winner of the 2016 election. My guess is not.

In fact ...

"It's just sad at this point. She's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. She is so petulant and narcissistic that she is incapable of accepting that she just might have lost something fair and square."


See how easy that is ?

queso1 said:

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Remember on election night when we were all laughing and saying to the Dems "you are here" on a list of excuses/paths to the presidency. Trump and the more easily influenced nuked that meme...it's bordering on insanity at this point.

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"Bordering" is way too generous. It's been insane for awhile.

To be fair, it makes sense that he's acting the way he his. Raising +$200M for a fake "legal defense fund" has been super profitable for him.

Unfortunately, a lot of people out there (including a majority of F16) keep reaching into their pocket to give him their last dime.

He is my president for the next 4 years. He will serve as de facto president and leader for tens of millions of people. At least moreso than the senile racist with crackhead pedo son.

Liberal hypocrites.

Hillary still hasn't admitted she lost.

Russia..Russia, Russia.. Impeach..Impeach..Impeach

Yet we are supposed to just sit back and accept that Joe Biden the racist 78 year old dementia patient received the most votes of any candidate in history and did so only after the polls closed and observers were locked out.

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larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Just wondering if you felt embarrassed for HRC when she went on countless talk shows, wrote books, did seminars, etc. for several years saying Trump was not the legitimate winner of the 2016 election. My guess is not.

In fact ...

"It's just sad at this point. She's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. She is so petulant and narcissistic that she is incapable of accepting that she just might have lost something fair and square."


See how easy that is ?

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I dont care for HRC at all. But her handling of her loss was completely different. She conceded to Trump on at 3am on election night. Then gave a concession speech on Wednesday.

Yes, she never got over the election and constantly complained about Russian interference and all that. Lots of sour grapes and never really took responsibility for her loss.

But she did not go on and on with whacko narratives about how she truly won and millions of votes were fraudulent, nor did she file dozens of ridiculous lawsuits all over the country trying to overturn the results. Once she conceded, that was more or less the end of it and she became a non-factor.

Spent the last four years with people complaining about election fraud emanating from Russia. Is it a good or bad sign that we'll likely spend the next four with others complaining the fraud now coming from within the US borders?

larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Lets check back in a few months and see how old joe and China are doing with our economy.

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TexAgs91 said:

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The electoral college folks have voted...

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You may have missed this
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3165981

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What's there to miss? Trump electors in states he didn't win cast show votes.

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It keeps Trump's chances alive when it goes to congress.

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Uh no. There is no chance

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You know every possible avenue that Trump would have or doesn't have? Strange that they would go through the trouble in those swing states to give Trump those EC votes, but I'm sure you're more up on Constitutional law than they are.

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OP:

FWIW Trump is going to continue tweeting that he won the election until Twitter suspends his account and then he is going to Parler where he will continue to post that he won the election.

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And nobody will see it. Good

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How are his supporters being conned? What is he taking?

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donations for his legal fund.

except what he doesn't tell them is it's for his legal fund after he leaves office and will have a ton of lawsuits and possibly prosecutions to deal with

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LOL. Prosecuted for what? Being a dick on twitter? Get help buddy.

I agree with what you're saying - my main issue was you saying you were embarrassed for him. Any other person in his position would be fighting until the last second if there was any possible fraud in the election - including Biden. I understand that the outcome is pretty much guaranteed at this point. I'm actually proud of him for standing up for himself. People only have a problem with it because it's Trump and his brash nature. Just my humble 2 cents anyway.

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How are his supporters being conned? What is he taking?

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donations for his legal fund.

except what he doesn't tell them is it's for his legal fund after he leaves office and will have a ton of lawsuits and possibly prosecutions to deal with

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And he will need it because the lawless left who stole this election will tell every lie they can to destroy the man who stood up to them and showed them to be the low life scum they really are.

I see no chance at all, even for Jan 6th, UNLESS the actual rigging of ballots and machines is confirmed. A big step did seem to happen yesterday with that raid on Solarwinds. Anyone familiar with how the admin function works will realize what it means to have a system where a foreign power can install an element that gives the installer admin access remotely.

IF THAT holds up, then some of the more surreal claims and even indications of very odd switches of numbers will have been true.

In such case, the Jan 6th Congress will have to think carefully whether to let a stolen election stand. If the Senate has been held, that might come easier than if it has been stolen in turn.

Whatever. Trump will not be president on January 21, 2021.

He is one of only a handful of one term Presidents.

The god-emperor is dead. Karma is a beetch.

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He has millions of devoted followers ripe for the con. He will milk this gravy train as long as he can.

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the fact that any of you (i know mesocosm is nothing but a troll) can type stuff like this with a straight face is fascinating. you yourselves were on board, non-stop, for four straight years of russia russia russia impeach impeach impeach without a shred of actual proof and now, all of a sudden, you just can't begin to comprehend the resistance from the other side over this very unusual election. it's honestly amazing.

i am not a trumper. i sat out the 2016 election because i thought he was a goofy limousine liberal who i couldn't take seriously and hillary is satan reincarnated. only when i began to see the blatant hypocrisy and attacks did i start digging deeper. i don't like trump as much as i abhor hypocrisy, lying and intellectual dishonesty.

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He will milk this gravy train as long as he can.

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you voted for a guy who has been in government for five decades and has done almost exactly nothing (unless you consider incarcerating minorities at an alarmingly high rate for minor offenses) besides enriching himself and yet you typed this out and hit submit without even a hint of self-awareness or irony. seriously...biden became a multimillionaire leaching off of hard-earned taxpayers' dollars while doing "public service" and you're claiming the billionaire real estate mogul is the one milking the gravy train. that's a whole new level of willful ignorance. it's honestly amazing.

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I agree with what you're saying - my main issue was you saying you were embarrassed for him. Any other person in his position would be fighting until the last second if there was any possible fraud in the election - including Biden. I understand that the outcome is pretty much guaranteed at this point. I'm actually proud of him for standing up for himself. People only have a problem with it because it's Trump and his brash nature. Just my humble 2 cents anyway.

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How much did he stand up for himself, fight, and litigate after the "rigged" election in 2016? How many times did he say that the election was rigged against him? But then he won, so was the election in 2016 rigged or not?

The man won in 2016 by 80k votes from Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. Could it be that those 80,000 (and more) swung the other way without nefarious dealings and bad hombres pulling the strings?

Article from 2016

The bottom line is that Trump lost because he did nothing but appeal to his base during his campaign.

larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Not sure if you voted for Dementia Joe, but if you did, you should feel sorry him and yourself.

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unmade bed said:

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OP:

FWIW Trump is going to continue tweeting that he won the election until Twitter suspends his account and then he is going to Parler where he will continue to post that he won the election.

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And nobody will see it. Good

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Thankfully there is an ignore button for people like you as well.

He did actually win.

But Democrats successfully committed fraud, cheated and it won't be challenged

Both statements are true.

Trump is again correct.

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President Trump should continue to make the Biden administration's life as difficult as possible. Just like they treated him with fake Russian hoax. Never concede to these lowlifes.

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Weapon use the FBI, IRS, DOJ, DHS, and parking meter attendants Against the Biden Five Crime Family and everyone that supports them! That is what dem's did to Trump!

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larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Yeah, he just doesn't understand that this election was a referendum on him and only him, despite his high approval numbers, as evidenced by the Republican gains in gubernatorial, state legislature and congressional seats across the country.

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His approval numbers were consistently low throughout his presidency. They rarely got above 45%. Republicans won across the country because there were a lot of voters who voted R but hated Trump, and Dems did an absolutely terrible job campaigning and sending a winning message this entire year.

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Keep telling yourself that and Trump leading by 700,000 in PA, 300,000 in MI and 100,000 in WI before counting stopped was an aberration and that there was no voter fraud...

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He did actually win.

But Democrats successfully committed fraud, cheated and it won't be challenged

Both statements are true.

Trump is again correct.

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Just because you repeat it doesn't make it true.

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He can never admit he lost.

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Democrats haven't admitted they've lost a Presidential election since 1988.

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False.

Dem candidate concedes over phone 10 minutes after Associated Press calls 2016 election.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-privately-concedes-in-phone-call-to-donald-trump/

Concession speech next day.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/full-text-hillary-clintons-2016-election-concession-speech/story?id=43388311

Say what you want about Hillary, but Trump will never do either of these things. Even Gore had conceded by now.

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Conceding doesn't mean crap.

Gore and the democrats spent 8 years calling Bush an illegitimate President because of what happened in Florida. That was the birth of #NotMyPresident

Hillary and the Dems spent 4 years calling Trump an illegitimate President over Russia.

But hey you tried.

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However he did say he will leave the WH if the electors vote for Biden. That's probably as far as he will ever go.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN2862HC

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Of course he will, it's not up to him whether or not he leaves the White House. He will leave or he will be removed. And as someone who very clearly values his pride, there's no way he'd choose to be dragged out instead of airing all his grievances in front of a crowd of fawning supporters and making his grand exit to Marine One.

larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Nobody creates a bigger Conspiracy Theory than Trump.

TexAgs91 said:

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infinity ag said:

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The electoral college folks have voted...

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You may have missed this
https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3165981

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You mean the electoral fraud from the cult?

larry culpepper said:

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It's just sad at this point. He's such an unhinged and mentally unstable person who truly cannot handle reality. He is so petulant and narcissistic that he is incapable of accepting that he just might have lost something fair and square. He's 1-59 in court but still insists he is right and all of those judges are wrong. For the first time I'm a little embarrassed for him.

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Every time someone tweets the "record" it's impossible not to laugh at how ignorant they clearly are.

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How are his supporters being conned? What is he taking?

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His fundraising website is still active. Donate while you can

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Only available for a limited time?