GeorgiAg said:

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AgHunter2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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1. Texas secedes
2. Texas Dems and enough moderates are unhappy.
3. Texas Conservatives lose post secession election.
4. Texas becomes a sovereign blue nation.
5. US, without Texas, instantly becomes solid blue nation.
6. LOL

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So you would vote yay if you lived in Texas? Or would vote in Georgia to allow Texas to secede peacefully?
In your scenario your team comes out ahead in the end, so advocating for Texas to secede makes sense to you logically right?

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No, I think secession is dumb for anyone. I wouldn't want to live in an all red or all blue state outside of the United States. I don't like full-blown red policies and don't want to be green new deal/socialist/communist either.

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Do you think it is best to raise children by hand holding through adulthood. Or do you think there is a time for lessons learned the hard way to achieve the best long term outcome for said child? If the latter like most conservative families, then you should be fine with Texans seceding.

You refuse to let Texans leave peacefully if they vote to do so and your only reason is you think it will back fire on conservatives and Texas ultimately becomes blue in the long term?

It sounds like you think you are morally superior to Texans wanting to secede, know what's best for them, and refuse to let them act on their own decisions.

Why does your opinion matter more than those wanting to peacefully leave?

Edit to add, even if Texas seceded that doesn't mean there would be sole conservative strict constitutionalism control over the people. The political left vs right would just shift away from corrupt governing bodies (hopefully).

AgHunter2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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AgHunter2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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1. Texas secedes
2. Texas Dems and enough moderates are unhappy.
3. Texas Conservatives lose post secession election.
4. Texas becomes a sovereign blue nation.
5. US, without Texas, instantly becomes solid blue nation.
6. LOL

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So you would vote yay if you lived in Texas? Or would vote in Georgia to allow Texas to secede peacefully?
In your scenario your team comes out ahead in the end, so advocating for Texas to secede makes sense to you logically right?

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No, I think secession is dumb for anyone. I wouldn't want to live in an all red or all blue state outside of the United States. I don't like full-blown red policies and don't want to be green new deal/socialist/communist either.

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Do you think it is best to raise children by hand holding through adulthood. Or do you think there is a time for lessons learned the hard way to achieve the best long term outcome for said child? If the latter like most conservative families, then you should be fine with Texans seceding.

You refuse to let Texans leave peacefully if they vote to do so and your only reason is you think it will back fire on conservatives and Texas ultimately becomes blue in the long term?

It sounds like you think you are morally superior to Texans wanting to secede, know what's best for them, and refuse to let them act on their own decisions.

Why does your opinion matter more than those wanting to peacefully leave?

Edit to add, even if Texas seceded that doesn't mean there would be sole conservative strict constitutionalism control over the people. The political left vs right would just shift away from corrupt governing bodies (hopefully).

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I wouldn't vote against it. Y'all gotta let me come watch Aggie Football games tho.

I don't think "leaving peacefully" is a an option. If a majority of Texans voted to leave, Houston, Dallas, Austin, SA and other cities would erupt.

Gaw617 said:

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I voted for Trump, I believe in the constitution so not I am not saying I will go to war with Texas. What am I saying is if you think the union will allow Texas to secede peacefully than you are an idiot.

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The Soviet Union broke up relatively peacefully. I don't see why the US can't. If libs want violence over it I'm sure we can accommodate them.

From Wikipedia;
[text]The goal of negotiations switched to achieving a peaceful division. On 13 November, the Federal Assembly passed Constitution Act 541, which settled the division of property between the Czech lands and Slovakia.[4] With Constitution Act 542, passed on 25 November, they agreed to the dissolution of Czechoslovakia as of 31 December 1992.[4]

The separation occurred without violence and so was thus said to be "velvet", much like the "Velvet Revolution", which had preceded it and had been accomplished by massive peaceful demonstrations and actions. In contrast, other post-communist breakups (such as the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia) involved violent conflict. Czechoslovakia is the only former Eastern bloc state that had an entirely-peaceful breakup.[/text]

Why can't this happen? No need for bloodshed. As far as military, I believe there are factions that would side with the movement.

GeorgiAg said:

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AgHunter2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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1. Texas secedes
2. Texas Dems and enough moderates are unhappy.
3. Texas Conservatives lose post secession election.
4. Texas becomes a sovereign blue nation.
5. US, without Texas, instantly becomes solid blue nation.
6. LOL

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So you would vote yay if you lived in Texas? Or would vote in Georgia to allow Texas to secede peacefully?
In your scenario your team comes out ahead in the end, so advocating for Texas to secede makes sense to you logically right?

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No, I think secession is dumb for anyone. I wouldn't want to live in an all red or all blue state outside of the United States. I don't like full-blown red policies and don't want to be green new deal/socialist/communist either.

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Yet you voted for the latter. How long before Biden steps down or is pushed out. I don't know if he makes it to the midterms

TRL-Ag said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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AgHunter2011 said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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1. Texas secedes
2. Texas Dems and enough moderates are unhappy.
3. Texas Conservatives lose post secession election.
4. Texas becomes a sovereign blue nation.
5. US, without Texas, instantly becomes solid blue nation.
6. LOL

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So you would vote yay if you lived in Texas? Or would vote in Georgia to allow Texas to secede peacefully?
In your scenario your team comes out ahead in the end, so advocating for Texas to secede makes sense to you logically right?

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No, I think secession is dumb for anyone. I wouldn't want to live in an all red or all blue state outside of the United States. I don't like full-blown red policies and don't want to be green new deal/socialist/communist either.

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Yet you voted for the latter. How long before Biden steps down or is pushed out. I don't know if he makes it to the midterms

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I think they will move quickly fearing they could lose the House or Senate. They are going to win GA because they aren't being caught.

Wow. From JimboFisher's 12:37 on the 14th down to today, all four posters hit it out of the park.