The US Supreme Court decision today to not take the Texas case on how state election law is made has us into the biggest Constitutional crisis in our lifetime. If there is a bigger one since the 1860's please correct me.

18 states and 1/3 of the US House asked the US Supreme Court to clarify how state election law is made given what is stated in the US Constitution. The US Supreme Court declined to take the case and lay out the law and how the circumstances this year regarding changes to state election law fit into the US Constitutional framework as written.

Regardless of your politics or which candidate you support, today is a dark day and took the normal pathway to a solution in our Constitutional Republic off the table and left 18 states spurned in their pursuit of clarification on the constitutional matter. The Court needed to take the case and provide the answers to these question whether you as a supporter of Biden or a supporter or Trump like the reasoning in their conclusions.

The PA legislature changed the law to allow for mail in voting. Per the US constitution that is allowed.

The constitution is ****ed. We should have been using that document for guidance and not as if it was dictated from the mouth of the angel Gabriel.

Power matters, not paper. We fell in love with abstract theory, and while we did so, the dems kicked us in the nuts with a steel toe.

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The US Supreme Court decision today to not take a case on how state election law is made has us into the biggest Constitutional crisis in our lifetime. If there is a bigger one since the 1860's please correct me.

18 states and 1/3 of the US House asked the US Supreme Court to clarify how state election law is made given what is stated in the US Constitution. The US Supreme Court declined to take the case and lay out the law and how the circumstance this year regarding changes to state election law fit into that framework.

Regardless of your politics or which candidate you support, today is a dark day and took the normal pathway to a solution in our Constitutional Republic off the table and left 18 states spurned in their pursuit of clarification on the constitutional matter. The Court needed to take the case and provide the answers to these question whether you as a supporter of Biden or a supporter or Trump like their reasoning of their conclusions.

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If the Supreme Court made their decisions based on popular opinion instead of the law, then we really would have a Constitution crisis.

AgBMF42 said:

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The PA legislature changed the law to allow for mail in voting. Per the US constitution that is allowed.

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It is Constitution under the Pennsylvania Constitution as well.

Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

I said this in the other thread and I'm going to repeat it..

Scotus can rule on ****ing election laws actually PASSED by the legislation, such as voter ID, but they refuse to rule on states changing the election law outside the legislature.

So had Abbott simply declared to be legal the same voter ID law the scotus struck down a few years back, that would be perfectly OK.

Its time for a fight!

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

We are no longer a Land of Laws when the judicial system, which is supposed to give everyone due process fails to do so.

When the SC refuses to even look at the Texas suite, they have failed their oaths to uphold the Constitution and Trump's day in court.

Our laws are now meaningless when the judicial system turns its back on its oath.

If the SC would have ruled against Trump, I would have been disappointed but at least he would have had the due process everyone in this country deserves.

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Gap said:

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The US Supreme Court decision today to not take a case on how state election law is made has us into the biggest Constitutional crisis in our lifetime. If there is a bigger one since the 1860's please correct me.

18 states and 1/3 of the US House asked the US Supreme Court to clarify how state election law is made given what is stated in the US Constitution. The US Supreme Court declined to take the case and lay out the law and how the circumstance this year regarding changes to state election law fit into that framework.

Regardless of your politics or which candidate you support, today is a dark day and took the normal pathway to a solution in our Constitutional Republic off the table and left 18 states spurned in their pursuit of clarification on the constitutional matter. The Court needed to take the case and provide the answers to these question whether you as a supporter of Biden or a supporter or Trump like their reasoning of their conclusions.

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If the Supreme Court made their decisions based on popular opinion instead of the law, then we really would have a Constitution crisis.

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Wrong.

AstroAg17 said:

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Sorry the country lost.

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FIFY. Free and fair elections are over with. I don't care what party you're with I don't see how you can be ok with that.

eric76 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

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What is being asked of the US Supreme Court is 180 degrees opposite of "popular opinion". What was requested is a logical and reasoned decision on how state election law is made and how these circumstances fit into it.

aggiehawg said:

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eric76 said:

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Gap said:

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The US Supreme Court decision today to not take a case on how state election law is made has us into the biggest Constitutional crisis in our lifetime. If there is a bigger one since the 1860's please correct me.

18 states and 1/3 of the US House asked the US Supreme Court to clarify how state election law is made given what is stated in the US Constitution. The US Supreme Court declined to take the case and lay out the law and how the circumstance this year regarding changes to state election law fit into that framework.

Regardless of your politics or which candidate you support, today is a dark day and took the normal pathway to a solution in our Constitutional Republic off the table and left 18 states spurned in their pursuit of clarification on the constitutional matter. The Court needed to take the case and provide the answers to these question whether you as a supporter of Biden or a supporter or Trump like their reasoning of their conclusions.

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If the Supreme Court made their decisions based on popular opinion instead of the law, then we really would have a Constitution crisis.

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Wrong.

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It's really funny to hear that from a lawyer.

Okay. Why is it wrong? Why should the Supreme Court abandon the law and make decisions based on public opinion instead?

Old_Ag_91 said:

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I don't care what any of you libs say, you better hide.

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What's your plan? Going to go shoot up some Democrats?

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eric76 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

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What is being asked of the US Supreme Court is 180 degrees opposite of "popular opinion". What was requested is a logical and reasoned decision on how state election law is made and how these circumstances fit into it.

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I think that they did it right. There is no excuse for one state to interfere in the elections of another state.

Supreme Court disagrees with you OP and they are kind of the experts on the matter

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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I don't care what any of you libs say, you better hide.

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What's your plan? Going to go shoot up some Democrats?

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This is the second thread where I've seen him make blatant violent threats.

eric76 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

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For a case of this gravity, with half the country clearly pitted against the other half they should have at least reviewed it and rendered a decision. Even if Trump had lost, they would have spoken to it with some semblence of legal justification and people would have felt like they at least received due process. Refusing to hear the case was the worst thing they could have done. Now, this is like a giant open wound that isn't going to heal or get better, it is going to tear this country apart at the seams. Hope your happy.

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TOUCHDOWN! said:

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Old_Ag_91 said:

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I don't care what any of you libs say, you better hide.

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What's your plan? Going to go shoot up some Democrats?

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This is the second thread where I've seen him make blatant violent threats.

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It's at least the third thread where you are saying the same crap. Be gone, troll!

AgBMF42 said:

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The PA legislature changed the law to allow for mail in voting. Per the US constitution that is allowed.

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Voting in PA was not conducted in accordance with PA law. Per the Constitution, that is not allowed.

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Supreme Court disagrees with you OP and they are kind of the experts on the matter

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18 states and 106 representatives say otherwise. The Irrelevant Court Of The US just voted to get packed.

Per the us constitution, if the PA legislature is able to chose the electors then if your point was true, it doesn't matter since the PA legislature authorized the changes.

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Lawmakers in 18 states and 1/3 of the US House did some serious political grandstanding because they know Trump supporters will use this as a litmus test in 2022 and 2024.

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FIFY.

eric76 said:

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Gap said:

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eric76 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

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What is being asked of the US Supreme Court is 180 degrees opposite of "popular opinion". What was requested is a logical and reasoned decision on how state election law is made and how these circumstances fit into it.

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I think that they did it right. There is no excuse for one state to interfere in the elections of another state.

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The Supreme Court didn't have any need to do that. Now, a state Governor or state Secretary of State or state court or county judge can make election law regardless of the power being reserved for state legislatures in the US Constitution.

Do you not understand the issues at play in this case?

AgBMF42 said:

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Per the us constitution, if the PA legislature is able to chose the electors then if your point was true, it doesn't matter since the PA legislature authorized the changes.

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It seems that what they want is for the federal government to tell states how to do their elections. Further proof that the Trump cult is far from Conservative.

Gap said:

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eric76 said:

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Gap said:

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eric76 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

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What is being asked of the US Supreme Court is 180 degrees opposite of "popular opinion". What was requested is a logical and reasoned decision on how state election law is made and how these circumstances fit into it.

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I think that they did it right. There is no excuse for one state to interfere in the elections of another state.

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The Supreme Court didn't have any need to do that. Now, a state Governor or state Secretary of State or state court or county judge can make election law regardless of the power being reserved for state legislatures in the US Constitution.

Do you not understand the issues at play in this case?

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No, they can't. If they try, they won't get very far.

OP, yes, it was an epic mistake. What wrote here still stand by.

They should have ignored any overly technical legal detail like standing. Show the same invention level they did with the abomination of Obamacare (let alone RvWade).

Here's what said:
TX sues GA, MI, WI, and PA at Supreme Court - Page 23 | TexAgs

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They need to think long and hard on the Main Street view before going with some overly technical dodge like "don't have standing". That won't fly at all. Most see the SCOTUS something like Catholics do the Pope or a Council -- some kind of real position taking and say on the subject. A decision to not have a decision does not cut it.

It will be seen as a bought of gesture, and might even be, with all the talk about Roberts and his past flaky invented decisions.

They have original jurisdiction since from a state, so just use that and take a look at some of the more compelling indicators. Even if they don't overturn the election, ordering changes immediately that change the Georgia runoffs would help, and it would encourage trust of 2022.

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But it sounds like they went with the too detached, tone-deaf approach of letter of the law.

Crimes are committed in history by people who follow the letter of the law rather than dispense justice. That may have happened here.

eric76 said:

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Gap said:

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eric76 said:

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Gap said:

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eric76 said:

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Ag87H2O said:

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Yep, today's decision was a cowardly, dangerous move by the SC that is going to throw this country into chaos both politically and judicially.

They took what little shared understanding we had left in the legal system as well as our social fabric and ripped it to shreds.

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So the Supreme Court should make their decisions based on popular opinion?

Why not just get rid of the Supreme Court and put everything on the web for everyone to vote on?

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What is being asked of the US Supreme Court is 180 degrees opposite of "popular opinion". What was requested is a logical and reasoned decision on how state election law is made and how these circumstances fit into it.

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I think that they did it right. There is no excuse for one state to interfere in the elections of another state.

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The Supreme Court didn't have any need to do that. Now, a state Governor or state Secretary of State or state court or county judge can make election law regardless of the power being reserved for state legislatures in the US Constitution.

Do you not understand the issues at play in this case?

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No, they can't. If they try, they won't get very far.

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So, just this year and for this election???

AgBMF42 said:

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Per the us constitution, if the PA legislature is able to chose the electors then if your point was true, it doesn't matter since the PA legislature authorized the changes.

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But the PA legislature did not authorize the changes. They were made by the PA courts.

RIP Constitution. It was a good ride but nothing lasts forever. You are now circling the toilet with liberty, freedom, an the American way of life and it happened right under our noses.

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AgBMF42 said:

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Per the us constitution, if the PA legislature is able to chose the electors then if your point was true, it doesn't matter since the PA legislature authorized the changes.

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But the PA legislature did not authorize the changes. They were made by the PA courts.

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The fact that they tried to get the legislature to change it and failed, then did it on their own is evidence that liberals know what the constitution says. They just don't care.

AstroAg17 said:

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Sorry your case lost.

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I laughed

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AgBMF42 said:

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Per the us constitution, if the PA legislature is able to chose the electors then if your point was true, it doesn't matter since the PA legislature authorized the changes.

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But the PA legislature did not authorize the changes. They were made by the PA courts.

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Late ballots was, late ballots did not affect the outcome. This is all in PAs response, go read it.