TX sues GA, MI, WI, and PA at Supreme Court

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Anti-taxxer said:

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TurkeyBaconLeg said:

Alabama in...


Did they actually file a petition or just issue this mealy mouth statement?

This is what I'm trying to figure out.

IN WHAT CAPACITY ARE THESE STATES "JOINING"?
Issuing statements that you intend to join if it looks like Texas is going to win is not very courageous.
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VanZandt92 said:

Wait because trump told you mail in voting bad? There is no evidence. Mail in is the way of the future. That was just a way for trump to claim election fraud.

Here's something I just read, " Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton (R) on Tuesday filed a brash and sweeping complaint that asked the court to overturn Biden's wins in the swing states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Georgia.
Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel (D) called it a "publicity stunt, not a serious legal pleading."
"Mr. Paxton's actions are beneath the dignity of the office of attorney general and the people of the great state of Texas," Nessel said"

When does the delusion stop with following trump? He wasn't predicted to win and there was a giant movement to stop him. Before the election, it was widely reported that results would change as absentee and mail in got counted because trump convinced his cult not to do absentee in the middle of a pandemic. Then it happened.

Do I have to boil this all down? Trump is immensely unpopular and there wasn't any cheating. Hell I'm surprised he won North Carolina.


How can you honestly say there was no fraud found when there was no over sight at many locations, signatures weren't matched, voting was stopped and then suddenly Biden gets huge jumps? There is too much misinformation going around. I'm struggling believing many things but if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck... it's disappointing so many mail in ballots were not honestly verified. If it was all on the up and up the dems hurt themselves by kicking out vote watchers and not following election rules. Seems everyone just wants to say it's over move along rather than address the serious issues with unsolicited mail in ballots

It's like someone cheats on a test without showing their work. The teacher grades it and says 90%. Class says I know he cheated look at the work. Teacher says no and grades just the answers again, 90%. So no cheating. Does that really mean there wasn't cheating?
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Trump fans don't need to be trolled. It's like trump jokes. There is no reason to make anything up. You can just point at outcomes and events. It doesn't take wit to outsmart a trump strategy.

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John Maplethorpe said:

Joe should appoint Hunter AG to sift through all the Trump family laptops.
Too late Mueller already did and found squat.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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VanZandt92 said:

I just still can't believe trump wasn't able to stop mail in voting by crippling the USPS. I wonder which one of his genius advisors came up with that plan?
Because President Trump never tried to cripple the USPS.
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richardag said:

Ag87H2O said:

WHOOP!'91 said:

pacecar02 said:

I predicted this, will Texas be the only one?



God Bless Texas. Glad we are in the fight, I hope every Republican state follows suit.
South Dakota next to join the lawsuit.
Boy was I wrong, come on South Dakota get with the program.
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Anti-taxxer said:

Are you serious?

If State A follows the law, and State B does not follow the law, or creates new "laws" illegally, thereby resulting in results that are fraudulent, the votes in State A are cancelled out.

At the very least, the citizens of State A are not being provided Equal Protection under the law, as guaranteed by the 14th.

Do you really not understand that???

Or are you being intentionally obtuse?
The left can't meme, the left can't logic
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VanZandt92 said:

Wait because trump told you mail in voting bad?
No, because every voting integrity commission that has ever examined it has concluded its bad
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Ag87H2O said:

ruddyduck said:

Cassius said:

Eric, you're on my ignore list, hoss.


probably a good call. i've never seen someone post so much, so often while either not really actually saying anything or just constantly being dead-assed wrong, while digging in their heels and being over-the-top stubborn about it. it's almost impressive if it wasn't so annoying.

another good thing about him being on the ignore list is all the threads become half as long as they were before his feckless bloviating.
My list is growing by the day. Without it Forum 16 has become almost unreadable for all the garbage being posted. I imagine that's part of their plan for one of the few places where conservative viewpoints can still be heard. Be so obnoxious and troll so hard people get sick of it and start tuning out.
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Hope many more states join and it finally leads to a recount of all legal votes in those states or eventual divorce.

This will continue to happen in those states.
Time to tell em
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VanZandt92 said:

Trump fans don't need to be trolled. It's like trump jokes. There is no reason to make anything up. You can just point at outcomes and events. It doesn't take wit to outsmart a trump strategy.

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Good luck....

Georgia

Michigan

Wisconsin

Pennsylvania

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eric76 said:

BusterAg said:

eric76 said:

BusterAg said:

Beached Whale said:

Wow the election that never ends. I guess we should have expected our partisan, litigious society to devolve into endless election lawsuits. Great precedent to set for future generations when you think you've lost the election - justified as "never stopping the fight!". Will be interesting to see what the Dems learn from this playbook in '24 when Kamala loses to some new R candidate and the political center further deteriorates.

This is a comical win-win strategy for KP. The R partisans will eat it up, it distracts from his own issues, he knows he won't be responsible for a constitutional crisis of his making bc it's not going anywhere, and the R taxpayers can foot the legal/admin bill in the name of some twisted sense of protecting democracy


Hopefully, what Dems learn, is that it is important to follow election law, unlike their behavior in 2020.
I hope that what the Democrats and the Republicans learn is that if we want to improve our elections, we cannot wait until Election Day or even a month or two before the election. By that time, the rules are pretty much set and any complaints about them are nothing but a bunch of sour grapes.

We should start now on getting Election Law ready for the 2028 election. If everyone just sits back and whines, as usual, they won't get much done.


I predict we sink mail in voting this election cycle.

Most of those mail in vote rules were violations of state law, anyways.

Florida cleaned up its act pretty quick. The voters in swing states are not going to be happy with this fiasco, and money from at least 10 states is going to pour into the swing states to unseat whoever is in charge of elections.

Presumably, Dems shouldn't object, as there is purportedly no fraud anyways, according to them.

I think your timeline is 400% too long.
It may be 400% too long for band-aids. I may be too optimistic if we want actual reform that means anything.


Step 1: ban mail in voting
Step 2: add criminal penalties to election officials that negligently break the law
Step 3: voter ID. Fed gvmt will pay for it for poor people. Voter ID fraud is a federal felony.

There. Round one done. Just solved 90% of the problem (not that it's not worth working for the other 10%)
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BusterAg said:

eric76 said:

BusterAg said:

eric76 said:

BusterAg said:

Beached Whale said:

Wow the election that never ends. I guess we should have expected our partisan, litigious society to devolve into endless election lawsuits. Great precedent to set for future generations when you think you've lost the election - justified as "never stopping the fight!". Will be interesting to see what the Dems learn from this playbook in '24 when Kamala loses to some new R candidate and the political center further deteriorates.

This is a comical win-win strategy for KP. The R partisans will eat it up, it distracts from his own issues, he knows he won't be responsible for a constitutional crisis of his making bc it's not going anywhere, and the R taxpayers can foot the legal/admin bill in the name of some twisted sense of protecting democracy


Hopefully, what Dems learn, is that it is important to follow election law, unlike their behavior in 2020.
I hope that what the Democrats and the Republicans learn is that if we want to improve our elections, we cannot wait until Election Day or even a month or two before the election. By that time, the rules are pretty much set and any complaints about them are nothing but a bunch of sour grapes.

We should start now on getting Election Law ready for the 2028 election. If everyone just sits back and whines, as usual, they won't get much done.


I predict we sink mail in voting this election cycle.

Most of those mail in vote rules were violations of state law, anyways.

Florida cleaned up its act pretty quick. The voters in swing states are not going to be happy with this fiasco, and money from at least 10 states is going to pour into the swing states to unseat whoever is in charge of elections.

Presumably, Dems shouldn't object, as there is purportedly no fraud anyways, according to them.

I think your timeline is 400% too long.
It may be 400% too long for band-aids. I may be too optimistic if we want actual reform that means anything.


Step 1: ban mail in voting
Step 2: add criminal penalties to election officials that negligently break the law
Step 3: voter ID. Fed gvmt will pay for it for poor people. Voter ID fraud is a federal felony.

There. Round one done. Just solved 90% of the problem (not that it's not worth working for the other 10%)

This.

There is no excuse.
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leftcoastaggie said:

Good luck....

Georgia

Michigan

Wisconsin

Pennsylvania




Give it a few weeks. Trump's going to tear these up Nancy Pelosi style.
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TX should just throw this tweet in the lawsuit so SCOTUS can see more direct evidence of local liberal shotcallers blatantly violating election laws to make voting more "convenient" in Dem concentrated areas. Convenient and efficient....to cheat or not....doesn't matter.

If local GOP officials changed rules to make it less convenient to vote, that would be just as illegal.

This. Is. Simple.

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This is great. If nothing else, it forms the template for multi-state alliances and cooperation that could be used to negate an excessively socialist or Marxist agenda from a Democrat controlled D.C.. Maybe the states can just start pushing back on Washington as arbitrarily as it has on them.

It also has a satisfying resemblance to a line up of taking sides.
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Nitro Power said:

Ag87H2O said:

ruddyduck said:

Cassius said:

Eric, you're on my ignore list, hoss.


probably a good call. i've never seen someone post so much, so often while either not really actually saying anything or just constantly being dead-assed wrong, while digging in their heels and being over-the-top stubborn about it. it's almost impressive if it wasn't so annoying.

another good thing about him being on the ignore list is all the threads become half as long as they were before his feckless bloviating.
My list is growing by the day. Without it Forum 16 has become almost unreadable for all the garbage being posted. I imagine that's part of their plan for one of the few places where conservative viewpoints can still be heard. Be so obnoxious and troll so hard people get sick of it and start tuning out.
Facts

I had three ignored before the election. I feel like I ignore about 10 a day now.

Intentionally ignorant attempts to derail and argue.
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Anti-taxxer said:

Nitro Power said:

Ag87H2O said:

ruddyduck said:

Cassius said:

Eric, you're on my ignore list, hoss.


probably a good call. i've never seen someone post so much, so often while either not really actually saying anything or just constantly being dead-assed wrong, while digging in their heels and being over-the-top stubborn about it. it's almost impressive if it wasn't so annoying.

another good thing about him being on the ignore list is all the threads become half as long as they were before his feckless bloviating.
My list is growing by the day. Without it Forum 16 has become almost unreadable for all the garbage being posted. I imagine that's part of their plan for one of the few places where conservative viewpoints can still be heard. Be so obnoxious and troll so hard people get sick of it and start tuning out.
Facts

I had three ignored before the election. I feel like I ignore about 10 a day now.

Intentionally ignorant attempts to derail and argue.
I still have nobody on ignore. Hammer them dont block em. Two thirds of these new lib posters didn't even go to TAMU dont let em have your board.
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VanZandt92 said:

Evanhue said:

"Be proud you're a rebel
'Cause the South's gonna do it again..."


Yeah man we proved we had the right to secede until we got our ass kicked by the Union.


By this logic, any time anyone loses, they should forfeit. The Ags should never play bama again because we have lost to them the last 8 years.

War is serious but our founding fathers found a very real reason that they thought they should risk it all.
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ttu_85 said:

Anti-taxxer said:

Nitro Power said:

Ag87H2O said:

ruddyduck said:

Cassius said:

Eric, you're on my ignore list, hoss.


probably a good call. i've never seen someone post so much, so often while either not really actually saying anything or just constantly being dead-assed wrong, while digging in their heels and being over-the-top stubborn about it. it's almost impressive if it wasn't so annoying.

another good thing about him being on the ignore list is all the threads become half as long as they were before his feckless bloviating.
My list is growing by the day. Without it Forum 16 has become almost unreadable for all the garbage being posted. I imagine that's part of their plan for one of the few places where conservative viewpoints can still be heard. Be so obnoxious and troll so hard people get sick of it and start tuning out.
Facts

I had three ignored before the election. I feel like I ignore about 10 a day now.

Intentionally ignorant attempts to derail and argue.
I still have nobody on ignore. Hammer them dont block em. Two thirds of these new lib posters didn't even go to TAMU dont let em have your board.

Not worth it. They are here solely to antagonize, and are being allowed to do so. Engaging them just gives them what they want, and angers me. They don't want to engage in discussion.
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Anti-taxxer said:

ttu_85 said:

Anti-taxxer said:

Nitro Power said:

Ag87H2O said:

ruddyduck said:

Cassius said:

Eric, you're on my ignore list, hoss.


probably a good call. i've never seen someone post so much, so often while either not really actually saying anything or just constantly being dead-assed wrong, while digging in their heels and being over-the-top stubborn about it. it's almost impressive if it wasn't so annoying.

another good thing about him being on the ignore list is all the threads become half as long as they were before his feckless bloviating.
My list is growing by the day. Without it Forum 16 has become almost unreadable for all the garbage being posted. I imagine that's part of their plan for one of the few places where conservative viewpoints can still be heard. Be so obnoxious and troll so hard people get sick of it and start tuning out.
Facts

I had three ignored before the election. I feel like I ignore about 10 a day now.

Intentionally ignorant attempts to derail and argue.
I still have nobody on ignore. Hammer them dont block em. Two thirds of these new lib posters didn't even go to TAMU dont let em have your board.

Not worth it. They are here solely to antagonize, and are being allowed to do so. Engaging them just gives them what they want, and angers me. They don't want to engage in discussion.
Party understand but to be fair they really offer nothing worth discussing. My motives are different.
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BusterAg said:

eric76 said:

BusterAg said:

eric76 said:

BusterAg said:

Beached Whale said:

Wow the election that never ends. I guess we should have expected our partisan, litigious society to devolve into endless election lawsuits. Great precedent to set for future generations when you think you've lost the election - justified as "never stopping the fight!". Will be interesting to see what the Dems learn from this playbook in '24 when Kamala loses to some new R candidate and the political center further deteriorates.

This is a comical win-win strategy for KP. The R partisans will eat it up, it distracts from his own issues, he knows he won't be responsible for a constitutional crisis of his making bc it's not going anywhere, and the R taxpayers can foot the legal/admin bill in the name of some twisted sense of protecting democracy


Hopefully, what Dems learn, is that it is important to follow election law, unlike their behavior in 2020.
I hope that what the Democrats and the Republicans learn is that if we want to improve our elections, we cannot wait until Election Day or even a month or two before the election. By that time, the rules are pretty much set and any complaints about them are nothing but a bunch of sour grapes.

We should start now on getting Election Law ready for the 2028 election. If everyone just sits back and whines, as usual, they won't get much done.


I predict we sink mail in voting this election cycle.

Most of those mail in vote rules were violations of state law, anyways.

Florida cleaned up its act pretty quick. The voters in swing states are not going to be happy with this fiasco, and money from at least 10 states is going to pour into the swing states to unseat whoever is in charge of elections.

Presumably, Dems shouldn't object, as there is purportedly no fraud anyways, according to them.

I think your timeline is 400% too long.
It may be 400% too long for band-aids. I may be too optimistic if we want actual reform that means anything.


Step 1: ban mail in voting
Step 2: add criminal penalties to election officials that negligently break the law
Step 3: voter ID. Fed gvmt will pay for it for poor people. Voter ID fraud is a federal felony.

There. Round one done. Just solved 90% of the problem (not that it's not worth working for the other 10%)


So you want to ban all mail in voting? Where does that leave Ex-pats, diplomats, and military members?

What about states like Utah? Are you saying that states should not be allowed to choose how their citizens vote?
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captkirk said:

VanZandt92 said:

Wait because trump told you mail in voting bad?
No, because every voting integrity commission that has ever examined it has concluded its bad


Do you mind posting links to the studies conducted by every voter commission that found all mail in voting to be "bad"? Also, do you mind defining what "bad" is?
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Anti-taxxer said:

Are you serious?

If State A follows the law, and State B does not follow the law, or creates new "laws" illegally, thereby resulting in results that are fraudulent, the votes in State A are cancelled out.

At the very least, the citizens of State A are not being provided Equal Protection under the law, as guaranteed by the 14th.

Do you really not understand that???

Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

Great, lets sue states that have gerrymandering going on, because thats definitely fraudulent and harms America.
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Gaius Rufus said:

captkirk said:

VanZandt92 said:

Wait because trump told you mail in voting bad?
No, because every voting integrity commission that has ever examined it has concluded its bad


Do you mind posting links to the studies conducted by every voter commission that found all mail in voting to be "bad"? Also, do you mind defining what "bad" is?

Well. 'bad' can mean many things, but in this context I believe 'bad' means "whenever my candidate doesn't win".
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richardag said:

VanZandt92 said:

I just still can't believe trump wasn't able to stop mail in voting by crippling the USPS. I wonder which one of his genius advisors came up with that plan?
Because President Trump never tried to cripple the USPS.


There is tons of evidence (literally, in machinery) that supports the conclusion that the trump admin was trying to slow the mail but, most importantly (unlike this 'stolen election' con that has earned trump $200M), the courts agree.
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Quote:

So you want to ban all mail in voting? Where does that leave Ex-pats, diplomats, and military members?

What about states like Utah? Are you saying that states should not be allowed to choose how their citizens vote?


That is what "absentee voting" is for.
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I'm morbidly curious about the Georgia Attorney Generals response.

Does he deny and refute the lawsuit claims?

Or does he go against his own state?

Choices...
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CondensedFoggyAggie said:

Anti-taxxer said:

Are you serious?

If State A follows the law, and State B does not follow the law, or creates new "laws" illegally, thereby resulting in results that are fraudulent, the votes in State A are cancelled out.

At the very least, the citizens of State A are not being provided Equal Protection under the law, as guaranteed by the 14th.

Do you really not understand that???

Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

Great, lets sue states that have gerrymandering going on, because thats definitely fraudulent and harms America.

Shaw v. Reno says hi.

Next?
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Anti-taxxer said:

ttu_85 said:

Anti-taxxer said:

Nitro Power said:

Ag87H2O said:

ruddyduck said:

Cassius said:

Eric, you're on my ignore list, hoss.


probably a good call. i've never seen someone post so much, so often while either not really actually saying anything or just constantly being dead-assed wrong, while digging in their heels and being over-the-top stubborn about it. it's almost impressive if it wasn't so annoying.

another good thing about him being on the ignore list is all the threads become half as long as they were before his feckless bloviating.
My list is growing by the day. Without it Forum 16 has become almost unreadable for all the garbage being posted. I imagine that's part of their plan for one of the few places where conservative viewpoints can still be heard. Be so obnoxious and troll so hard people get sick of it and start tuning out.
Facts

I had three ignored before the election. I feel like I ignore about 10 a day now.

Intentionally ignorant attempts to derail and argue.
I still have nobody on ignore. Hammer them dont block em. Two thirds of these new lib posters didn't even go to TAMU dont let em have your board.

Not worth it. They are here solely to antagonize, and are being allowed to do so. Engaging them just gives them what they want, and angers me. They don't want to engage in discussion.
I also have nobody on ignore, but those here just to gloat and mock are tempting.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

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Gaius Rufus said:

captkirk said:

VanZandt92 said:

Wait because trump told you mail in voting bad?
No, because every voting integrity commission that has ever examined it has concluded its bad


Do you mind posting links to the studies conducted by every voter commission that found all mail in voting to be "bad"? Also, do you mind defining what "bad" is?
Voter fraud is bad, mkay?

https://nypost.com/2020/08/29/political-insider-explains-voter-fraud-with-mail-in-ballots/

The easiest way to cheat is to get someone else's ballot and complete it for them. Maybe you get it from the trash, give a couple of bucks for it, or offer to help them fill it in.

The millions of ballots that went out unsolicited...some percentage of them came back in vans full of boxes through the back door to be counted a few times.
A & M, GIVE US ROOM!

 
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