John Maplethorpe said:

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There is no evidence for this Dominion theory besides rumors Sidney Powell heard on 4chan and a mountain of evidence including 5 million paper ballots against it.

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Post the Source code. Then everyone knows. Let me guess the Source is IP and a trade secret. The Demwit Party will do anything to avoid Election TRANSPARENCY

ttu_85 said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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Get on with it are you trying to say the voter assist machines were printing incorrect selections?

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Dont know I dont have the source code but plenty of statistical aborrations.

Are you saying it was only a count ?

I can easily make a computer print anything I want it too. I can make one, if I wrote the code, print anything YOU put in it.

The programmer is almost god in these cases. No Source Code no promises as to what was done. You cant understand that Dude its 2020 not 1980.

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Tell me what your theory is that could have happened. Are you suggesting the tabulators were shaving counts, or the voter assist machines were printing incorrect selections? It has to be one or the other or both, there's no other option.

Sidney Powell's claim was it was the tabulators.

John Maplethorpe said:

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ttu_85 said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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Get on with it are you trying to say the voter assist machines were printing incorrect selections?

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Dont know I dont have the source code but plenty of statistical aborrations.

Are you saying it was only a count ?

I can easily make a computer print anything I want it too. I can make one, if I wrote the code, print anything YOU put in it.

The programmer is almost god in these cases. No Source Code no promises as to what was done. You cant understand that Dude its 2020 not 1980.

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Tell me what your theory is that could have happened. Are you suggesting the tabulators were shaving counts, or the voter assist machines were printing incorrect selections? It has to be one or the other or both, there's no other option.

Sidney Powell's claim was it was the tabulators.

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Where is the Source Code I have asked you rhetorically 10 times. You have no idea what I am even talking about.

As a programmer I can make "a tabulator" do anything I want it too.

Tabulator- what an idiotic lable. Dems trying to sound cool.

TurkeyBaconLeg said:

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I would not be surprised to see some upset Georgia residents pull a BLM type riot in all the Georgia counties and storm the polling places that store Dominion voting machines and counting machines. If the judicial system wont allow examination of these machines for fraud, some folks just might take matters into their own hands.

The judges say that the lawsuits about these machines should have occurred before the election. But, back then they said you had to wait for the election to happen before you could file. Catch 22.

Then someone is probably going to say, screw this! These machines needs to go...

This would force the use of more conventional methods for balloting in the upcoming run-off election. Because right now, who the hell trusts any of these machines and their programming?

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That is okay but I'd also prefer them dragging the operators and purchasers of the machines out as well, that's where the true problem lies.

I think each and every group of republican observers should have a huge group of supporters assigned to them to summarily and forcibly if necessary remove all dems working at every election locale. Make it clear to them they are not welcomed and need to get the hell out. This is apparentaly not against the law their judges have ruled as such. Given the precedence set demand parity. Time to give back as good as and, even better than what has been gotten.

And..... LIbs you can STFU with any spin or typical BS because these are the rules you've been playing by so deal with it!

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Where is the Source Code I have asked your rhetorically 10 times. You have no idea what I am even talking about.

As a programmer I can make "a tabulator" do anything I want it too.

Tabulator- what an idiotic lable. Dems trying to sound cool.

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I know what source code is. I'm trying to get you to explain what you think could have happened. Of course a tabulator can run a cheating algo, a compromised voting kiosk could be programmed to randomly switch 1% of Trump votes to Biden - it would be very simple from a technical standpoint. I'm asking YOU if that's what YOU think could have happened? Thereby producing fraudulent paper ballots. Explain your theory.

Never thought of this (until now)... but what if ALL the Dominion machines end up in the same warehouse "for further investigation", then there's a fire in the warehouse... seems convenient and completely plausible.

John Maplethorpe said:

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There is no evidence for this Dominion theory besides rumors Sidney Powell heard on 4chan and a mountain of evidence including 5 million paper ballots against it.

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And the observed switching of ballots from Trump to Biden.

John Maplethorpe said:

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Where is the Source Code I have asked your rhetorically 10 times. You have no idea what I am even talking about.

As a programmer I can make "a tabulator" do anything I want it too.

Tabulator- what an idiotic lable. Dems trying to sound cool.

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I know what source code is. I'm trying to get you to explain what you think could have happened. Of course a compromised voting kiosk could be programmed to randomly switch 1% of Trump votes to Biden - it would be very simple from a technical standpoint. I'm asking YOU if that's what YOU think could have happened? Thereby producing fraudulent paper ballots.

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MY primary point is if we all knew what happened and there was complete election TRANSPARENCY. None of this would be going on. This must be reformed if we are going to use computers to vote with. GA does.

To have election transparency the source code must be public and vetted whether the voting system is native or cloud based. Dominion systems are black boxes that should be a nonstarter to anyone with a brain.

What happened ? IDK No Source Code for a computer that took a vote, then printed it, then scanned it. Then processed it. Then logged it. Who the F* knows what was done during the process.

example Code

vote=getVote();

if (vote =='r') { // is it a Repub vote
int scam = random(100);....//get a random number
if(scam == 50) {
......++demVote;
..} else ++repVote;
if(vote=='d') ++demVote;

This simple example of common code flipping roughly 1 Republican vote in 100 cast.Again you can make the code do whatever you want. including print or not, log the vote or not.

This is why Source Code must be public and vetted. to prevent what we are seeing now.

DC79er said:

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TurkeyBaconLeg said:

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I would not be surprised to see some upset Georgia residents pull a BLM type riot in all the Georgia counties and storm the polling places that store Dominion voting machines and counting machines. If the judicial system wont allow examination of these machines for fraud, some folks just might take matters into their own hands.

The judges say that the lawsuits about these machines should have occurred before the election. But, back then they said you had to wait for the election to happen before you could file. Catch 22.

Then someone is probably going to say, screw this! These machines needs to go...

This would force the use of more conventional methods for balloting in the upcoming run-off election. Because right now, who the hell trusts any of these machines and their programming?

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That is okay but I'd also prefer them dragging the operators and purchasers of the machines out as well, that's where the true problem lies.

I think each and every group of republican observers should have a huge group of supporters assigned to them to summarily and forcibly if necessary remove all dems working at every election locale. Make it clear to them they are not welcomed and need to get the hell out. This is apparentaly not against the law their judges have ruled as such. Given the precedence set demand parity. Time to give back as good as and, even better than what has been gotten.

And..... LIbs you can STFU with any spin or typical BS because these are the rules you've been playing by so deal with it!

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The R's should know how to play the game now. 1 for 1 in all election stations. 24 hour watch on all door entries to polling stations (no random deliveries in the middle of the night). Copy 1000's of random ballots and send in to stand alone boxes (or just light them on fire and destroy all ballots). Crash all the wifi signals during the elction day and send cryptic messages, and if that doesn't work, violence and riots to tear it down seems like the new path.

The current system will not change by normal processes.................. The Republicans should know now how to cast votes in GA.....

Free advice to several of you folks. Get off the internet and spend some time with your family.

You don't seem to know how their voting system works. The paper ballots are the ballots period. The voting assist machines print, but they don't record any counts, they aren't connected to anything.

If the kiosks were flipping votes and printing phony selections, the voter would see it in English on the paper.

If the tabulators were switching votes it would have been revealed in the hand count.

The state has possession of all the hardware and software, they can take them apart and look at every line of code any time they want and nobody can stop them.

You walk up to a machine, make your selections. It PRINTS a completed ballot. The VOTER VERIFIES THE PRINTED BALLOT. You put it in the secure ballot box yourself. If the machine changed the vote, the VOTER WOULD PREVENTED THAT BY TELLING THE POLL WORKER IT SCREWED UP THEIR VOTE.

They scanned the ballots, including absentee. Biden won.

They hand counted the printed ballots to double check the scanning. Biden won.

John Maplethorpe said:

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You don't seem to know how their voting system works. The paper ballots are the ballots period. The voting assist machines print, but they don't record any counts, they aren't connected to anything.

If the kiosks were flipping votes and printing phony selections, the voter would see it in English on the paper.

If the tabulators were switching votes it would have been revealed in the hand count.

The state has possession of all the hardware and software, they can take them apart and look at every line of code any time they want and nobody can stop them.

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I asked you to tell me GA voting process up thread and got crickets. And you tell me I dont know the process. Projection is all you do. I am done. All you are doing is regurgitating talking points.

And no a hand count would not reveal fraud. A hand Audit would.

I explained it to you it's simple, I even fleshed out your own theory when you were unable to explain it. At one point you seemed to think the voter assist machines reported results, that's not how anything works.

You can go read their audit and hand recount reports and report back what you find unsatisfactory.

John Maplethorpe said:

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There is no evidence for this Dominion theory besides rumors Sidney Powell heard on 4chan and a mountain of evidence including 5 million paper ballots against it.

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The paper ballots were created by either illegal/fraudulent ballots being fed in and/or ballots being switched electronically. Garbage will be produced. Doesn't confirm if the count was accurate.

How does one switch a paper ballot "electronically"?

They hand counted all 5 million paper ballots. The ballots have the choices printed in English. There's no way any of this happened.

oats04Ag said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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Explain then. How can the tabulators be switching votes if you go one by one and hand count the physical ballots? Those are the official records of the vote.

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The recount was a sham just as much as the election itself. There are multiple signed affidavits of observers who watched them put Trump votes into the pile to be counted for Biden.

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The needle barely moved on the recount. If people were willy nilly dropping ballots in the wrong stacks, how come the recount delta was off by just .02% from the original count?

TAMU1990 said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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There is no evidence for this Dominion theory besides rumors Sidney Powell heard on 4chan and a mountain of evidence including 5 million paper ballots against it.

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The paper ballots were created by either illegal/fraudulent ballots being fed in and/or ballots being switched electronically. Garbage will be produced. Doesn't confirm if the count was accurate.

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According to what?

ttu_85 said:

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John Maplethorpe said:

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Where is the Source Code I have asked your rhetorically 10 times. You have no idea what I am even talking about.

As a programmer I can make "a tabulator" do anything I want it too.

Tabulator- what an idiotic lable. Dems trying to sound cool.

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I know what source code is. I'm trying to get you to explain what you think could have happened. Of course a compromised voting kiosk could be programmed to randomly switch 1% of Trump votes to Biden - it would be very simple from a technical standpoint. I'm asking YOU if that's what YOU think could have happened? Thereby producing fraudulent paper ballots.

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MY primary point is if we all knew what happened and there was complete election TRANSPARENCY. None of this would be going on. This must be reformed if we are going to use computers to vote with. GA does.

To have election transparency the source code must be public and vetted whether the voting system is native or cloud based. Dominion systems are black boxes that should be a nonstarter to anyone with a brain.

What happened ? IDK No Source Code for a computer that took a vote, then printed it, then scanned it. Then processed it. Then logged it. Who the F* knows what was done during the process.

example Code

vote=getVote();

if (vote =='r') { // is it a Repub vote
int scam = random(100);....//get a random number
if(scam == 50) {
......++demVote;
..} else ++repVote;
if(vote=='d') ++demVote;

This simple example of common code flipping roughly 1 Republican vote in 100 cast.Again you can make the code do whatever you want. including print or not, log the vote or not.

This is why Source Code must be public and vetted. to prevent what we are seeing now.

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The argument for having open code is a fair one, but it doesn't invalidate the results. Especially when a hand count has already confirmed them.

That being said, who's to say that the code you're provided is the code that was executed? Electronic voting will always require a level of trust, but with hand counting as a backup, it's all kind of moot, anyway.

The judges say that the lawsuits about these machines should have occurred before the election. But, back then they said you had to wait for the election to happen before you could file. Catch 22.

No ***** It's like saying well you planned to murder her on Tuesday but they should've caught you before that.

Face it. The liberal judges will not allow the cheating to be exposed, Orange Man Bad is all that matters.