Why would they do this if sharpies are fine...

It you believe the Democrat's own narrative, early voting was expected to heavily favor Biden and election day was expected to favor Trump.

It's obvious what they were hoping to accomplish. Not a smidgeon of attempted fraud. Cleanest election ever.

Trump and his team cannot allow this to stand.

Another smoking gun. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Who wants to call her mobile phone and ask her?

AZ needs an audit.

The Dems and GOP Nevertrumpers have made our elections a complete sham.

This is insane.

Good Lord.

At what point does the DAM break and all this fraud flows like the waters of a great flood!

Bring the rain beotches!!!!!

Seems like plenty of time to fix a supply issue (10/22) if that's the argument why they "need" to use sharpies on ED (11/3). Weird email.

And more importantly WHEN does the media start to do its job and investigate these people?!!!!!

Can some lone from the press not interview this lady and ask her WHY the switch from ballpoint to sharpie?

aggiez03 said:

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Why would they do this if sharpies are fine...

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Wow

Why am I here? said:

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And more importantly WHEN does the media start to do its job and investigate these people?!!!!!

Can some lone from the press not interview this lady and ask her WHY the switch from ballpoint to sharpie?

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Seems like a logical thing to do.

As someone who wants Trump in office, and also doesn't want to believe our country is as corrupt as the charges say, I just want some damn answers

Fredd said:

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Who wants to call her mobile phone and ask her?

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We could pull a play out of the Dem playbook and call her out on Parler, and let everyone there know where her kids go to school........


Ok, don't do that. That would be disgusting. No sarcasm.

I called her cell....straight to voicemail

C'mon man!

Someone is going to need a new #

What is a troubleshooter in this context?

What's up with the distribution of the email? The only "To" address is Kelly's.

My guess is, the defense of that will be that sharpies allow for faster voting when half the populace shows up on election day, but speed isn't that important otherwise.

I know it's fraud, we all do, and it was a coordinated plan, but that will be the claim.

Texker said:

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What's up with the distribution of the email? The only "To" address is Kelly's.

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She probably used BCC to send to everybody. I wonder if there was anyone who shouldn't be on that email?

It was already explained in court. Stop with the BS conspiracies.

Sharpies were used on the day of election because the ink dried faster. The ballots were run through a tabulator right after the voter marked their ballot. Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable. The bubbles on the ballot were intentionally printed so they did not line up so a bleed through would not interfere with a vote on the back. This was already thrown out of court. Ball point pens could be used for early voting because the ink had time to dry before being run through the machine.

Here is the evidence, concerned moderates and communists.

Now sit down, shut up, and let the legal process play out. We have months.

So why not use markers every day?

If markers are the most effective, then why the insistence on using pens before election day? Why should the method of marking a ballot be tied to the calendar?

Shouldn't a robust process use a single standard at all times?

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Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable.

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So you have just admitted that the early voting ballots marked with a pen were not counted.

Thank you.

Then what were the election officials' concerns related to Shapries? Why did she instruct the use of pens for early voting?

If Sharpies were better suited for the job, why recommend pens at all?

No way, I've been assured by many posters here including BMX bandit that this is not possible and was debunked.

leftcoastaggie said:

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It was already explained in court. Stop with the BS conspiracies.

Sharpies were used on the day of election because the ink dried faster. The ballots were run through a tabulator right after the voter marked their ballot. Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable. The bubbles on the ballot were intentionally printed so they did not line up so a bleed through would not interfere with a vote on the back. This was already thrown out of court. Ball point pens could be used for early voting because the ink had time to dry before being run through the machine.

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The email specifically states she's been "Hearing issues and concerns" with sharpies. I'm not in the conspiracy camp, but errors can and do happen all of the time. Yet somehow when it comes to elections, it's all good. Don't ask questions.

A hand recount, with plenty of poll watchers, is the only way to KNOW that everything is fine.

Keegan99 said:

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So why not use markers every day?

If markers are the most effective, then why the insistence on using pens before election day?

Shouldn't a robust process use a single standard at all times?

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This. Since she said that she has heard from many of these troubleshooters about the markers, then there should be records of phone calls or copies of emails that can back up what the 'issues' were.

aggiehawg said:

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Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable.

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So you have just admitted that the early voting ballots marked with a pen were not counted.

Thank you.

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Your post makes no sense. You cut this part off my reply:

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Ball point pens could be used for early voting because the ink had time to dry before being run through the machine.

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Thanks for editing what I said to make your point. That's pretty disingenuous of you.

So explain why pens were ever needed

leftcoastaggie said:

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It was already explained in court. Stop with the BS conspiracies.

Sharpies were used on the day of election because the ink dried faster. The ballots were run through a tabulator right after the voter marked their ballot. Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable. The bubbles on the ballot were intentionally printed so they did not line up so a bleed through would not interfere with a vote on the back. This was already thrown out of court. Ball point pens could be used for early voting because the ink had time to dry before being run through the machine.

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Show me the correspondence in this case that this was the issue.

webgem08 said:

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Then what were the election officials' concerns related to Shapries? Why did she instruct the use of pens for early voting?

If Sharpies were better suited for the job, why recommend pens at all?

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Maybe they had a limited supply of sharpies so they didn't want to waste them during early voting when using a ball point pen worked just as well? Or is that too logical for you? It doesn't matter, the case was thrown out. There were exactly zero witnesses who testified that their vote wasn't counted because they used a sharpie.

"Issues and concerns"

Explain.

Limited supply is total garbage.

DannyDuberstein said:

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"Issues and concerns"

Explain.

Limited supply is total garbage.

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Explain why limited supply is total garbage?

We're electing the most powerful person on the planet and they can't spring for enough sharpies?! They have to cut corners and hope their ramshackle "sometimes we can get away with using pens, but sometimes we need to use our precious sharpies" process works?

That is supposed to inspire public trust and confidence?!

American Hardwood said:

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leftcoastaggie said:

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It was already explained in court. Stop with the BS conspiracies.

Sharpies were used on the day of election because the ink dried faster. The ballots were run through a tabulator right after the voter marked their ballot. Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable. The bubbles on the ballot were intentionally printed so they did not line up so a bleed through would not interfere with a vote on the back. This was already thrown out of court. Ball point pens could be used for early voting because the ink had time to dry before being run through the machine.

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Show me the correspondence in this case that this was the issue.

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It was in the court proceedings. Go look it up. I listened to the call when it was thrown out of court.

leftcoastaggie said:

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It was already explained in court. Stop with the BS conspiracies.

Sharpies were used on the day of election because the ink dried faster. The ballots were run through a tabulator right after the voter marked their ballot. Using a ball point pen would allow the sill wet ink to gum up the tabulator and make it inoperable. The bubbles on the ballot were intentionally printed so they did not line up so a bleed through would not interfere with a vote on the back. This was already thrown out of court. Ball point pens could be used for early voting because the ink had time to dry before being run through the machine.

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what ball point pens are you using? And what sharpies are you using? The drying curve of these don't pass my bull**** meter.