Media Narrative Change: Biden gets vaccine credit

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aTm2004
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Could they make their bias anymore obvious?

BadMoonRisin
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Yeah, he didnt even know which office he was running for or who the incumbent was, but he totes made this happen.

FAUXVID-19 will be a stain on our country's history, if the honest people are allowed to write it.
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A Net Full of Jello
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They realize he's thinking this is the polio vaccine, right?
captkirk
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It will be like Obama's Nobel
lamivudine
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Vaccine for a 99% survivability rate. I mean you cant make this **** up.
titan
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Just on the general point. Stop bashing Russia. We are probably now more corrupt. That is straight up Orwellian. In Russia reporters still get in trouble, so obviously still telling the truth.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
Maroon Dawn
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Wow

They even openly said "He doesn't want to change anything about Operation Warp Speed, just criticize how fast it was done"

All about desperately trying to convince America that ending the COVID scare now that it isn't politically useful anymore is really Uncle Joe solving it in his first month all by himself
Ag87H2O
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The media has not given Trump credit for anything good in four years and they're not going to start now.

The leftist propaganda machine is cranked up and running wide open just like it has been since 2016, they've just refined their art to a whole new level.

It truly is like we are witnessing the takeover of this country by an American Pravda. Best to turn them off and ignore it as much as possible and get your information from actual reliable news sources.
Reservoir Dog
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The ink from the Middle East peace deals isn't dry... and not expected to dry until January 20th.

Everyone knows peace deals aren't official until the ink drys.

I'd expect Joey Biden to get credit for these deals as well.
agjacent
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Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.

Maroon Dawn
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agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.




Oh Pfizer wasn't part of it?

So they have 3 years worth of tests they've done because they didn't get the special permissions and waivers from OWS? Nor are they taking a dime of the 2 Billion distribution money?

Do you even listen to the propaganda they ask you to repeat?
MouthBQ98
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Not taking funding doesn't mean they didn't benefit from expedited processes, reduced trials requirements, expedited research and information distribution and sharing, etc.
Proc92
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agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.


Whether or not they took part in warp speed, they were under pressure by that program to compete to get it out as fast as possible.
Magic City Wings
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You realize that is the Hunter Biden laptop News
Corp conservative rag right?
agjacent
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Maroon Dawn said:

agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.




Oh Pfizer wasn't part of it?

So they have 3 years worth of tests they've done because they didn't get the special permissions and waivers from OWS? Nor are they taking a dime of the 2 Billion distribution money?

Do you even listen to the propaganda they ask you to repeat?
What are you babbling about? "Three years worth of tests" on a novel virus that is less than a year old? And what does the manufacture and mass distribution of a vaccine have to do with its creation?
Triple S
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agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.




Awe yeah. They didn't take money, but I BET they are still willing to profit........... GTFOH.

What about all the regulations that the Admin moved to speed it up???? Hmmmm.
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AgNav93
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Maroon Dawn said:

Wow

They even openly said "He doesn't want to change anything about Operation Warp Speed, just criticize how fast it was done"

All about desperately trying to convince America that ending the COVID scare now that it isn't politically useful anymore is really Uncle Joe solving it in his first month all by himself
COVID will be a bad memory by the time he takes office. It served its purpose. It's time to start pivoting from it. The fact that so many can't see this, or welcome it, because it serves their political desires is mind numbing.
YouBet
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agjacent said:

Maroon Dawn said:

agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.




Oh Pfizer wasn't part of it?

So they have 3 years worth of tests they've done because they didn't get the special permissions and waivers from OWS? Nor are they taking a dime of the 2 Billion distribution money?

Do you even listen to the propaganda they ask you to repeat?
What are you babbling about? "Three years worth of tests" on a novel virus that is less than a year old? And what does the manufacture and mass distribution of a vaccine have to do with its creation?
A lot of the therapeutics and vaccines were based on existing drugs for corona-type viruses. There has been a lot of work already done in the field so most of this wasn't done from scratch for 19.
Ag87H2O
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agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.


Trump did the same thing for Pfizer and the other pharmacuticals that he did for all American companies that helped create the best economic expansion in decades back in 2017. He set a favorable climate by cutting government red tape and regulations so that businesses could function and do what they do best - create products and services - without the heavy hand of government throttling innovation and production.

It would have never happened under a Democrat administration. Not a chance.

While Trump didn't invent the vaccine, he provided a climate favorable to pharmacuticals so they could produce one and then he gave them a clear mandate to proceed with haste, and he should get credit for that.
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AgBMF42 said:

You realize that is the Hunter Biden laptop News
Corp conservative rag right?
New Corp did a 180 on election night and are now all in on Biden.
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Rapier108
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YouBet said:

agjacent said:

Maroon Dawn said:

agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.




Oh Pfizer wasn't part of it?

So they have 3 years worth of tests they've done because they didn't get the special permissions and waivers from OWS? Nor are they taking a dime of the 2 Billion distribution money?

Do you even listen to the propaganda they ask you to repeat?
What are you babbling about? "Three years worth of tests" on a novel virus that is less than a year old? And what does the manufacture and mass distribution of a vaccine have to do with its creation?
A lot of the therapeutics and vaccines were based on existing drugs for corona-type viruses. There has been a lot of work already done in the field so most of this wasn't done from scratch for 19.
Yep. There was a SARS vaccine that was done and ready for final approval when the funding dried up because SARS had disappeared.

I don't know if Pifzer used that data and research, but it was pulled out of storage very early on and the information given to various research outlets and vaccine manufacturers.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
agjacent
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YouBet said:

agjacent said:

Maroon Dawn said:




Oh Pfizer wasn't part of it?

So they have 3 years worth of tests they've done because they didn't get the special permissions and waivers from OWS? Nor are they taking a dime of the 2 Billion distribution money?

Do you even listen to the propaganda they ask you to repeat?
What are you babbling about? "Three years worth of tests" on a novel virus that is less than a year old? And what does the manufacture and mass distribution of a vaccine have to do with its creation?
A lot of the therapeutics and vaccines were based on existing drugs for corona-type viruses. There has been a lot of work already done in the field so most of this wasn't done from scratch for 19.
Yes, obviously. Coronaviruses in general are nothing new. SARS and MERS are both coronaviruses.

What do years of past research into coronaviruses, which the entire medical research field worldwide has access to, have to do Operation Warp Speed again? How does Operation Warp Speed in any way impact the starting line that these pharmaceutical companies all began from?
YouBet
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agjacent said:

YouBet said:

agjacent said:

Maroon Dawn said:




Oh Pfizer wasn't part of it?

So they have 3 years worth of tests they've done because they didn't get the special permissions and waivers from OWS? Nor are they taking a dime of the 2 Billion distribution money?

Do you even listen to the propaganda they ask you to repeat?
What are you babbling about? "Three years worth of tests" on a novel virus that is less than a year old? And what does the manufacture and mass distribution of a vaccine have to do with its creation?
A lot of the therapeutics and vaccines were based on existing drugs for corona-type viruses. There has been a lot of work already done in the field so most of this wasn't done from scratch for 19.
Yes, obviously. Coronaviruses in general are nothing new. SARS and MERS are both coronaviruses.

What do years of past research into coronaviruses, which the entire medical research field worldwide has access to, have to do Operation Warp Speed again? How does Operation Warp Speed in any way impact the starting line that these pharmaceutical companies all began from?
You questioned his "three years worth of tests" on a novel virus. I was merely pointing out that a lot of ground work had been done with SARS and MERS (as examples) that gave pharma a head start. Thus, much testing has been done in previous years that contributed to C19 developments.
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Proc92 said:

agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.


Whether or not they took part in warp speed, they were under pressure by that program to compete to get it out as fast as possible.


Or they were pressured to get the product to make billions. Your scenario of them making it political and using it to distance themselves is laughable.
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Even if Pfizer didn't take any money, they definitely were helped in getting this pushed through, to have any doubt would be extremely ignorant or flat out dishonest...

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Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement.
https://www.historyofvaccines.org/index.php/content/articles/vaccine-development-testing-and-regulation

Which is a public resource from the College Of Physicians Of Philadelphia
richardag
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agjacent said:

..... Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.
Why would Pfizer try to distance themselves from Operation Warp Speed.

Under Operation Warp Speed the federal Government agreed to pay Pfizer $1.95 billion for 100 million vaccines. Now I'm not an expert in exponential math but seems that is $19.50/vaccine. If I were to guess Pfizer will want one hell of a lot more than $19.50/vaccine.

Call me deplorable, chump or rube, just falling off the turnip truck, but even though Pfizer most definitely benefited from Operation Warp Speed they are setting up to gouge the Federal Government(that means us the taxpayers) for exorbitant profits ESPECIALLY FROM THAT DODDERING CORRUPT OLD FACIST RACIST Biden.
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esteban
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The hilarious part is this was a triumph of the private sector that would normally be treated as validation of the conservative worldview. But Trump will always claim credit, and his supporters will believe him. So..
titan
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Ag87H2O said:


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The media has not given Trump credit for anything good in four years and they're not going to start now.

The leftist propaganda machine is cranked up and running wide open just like it has been since 2016, they've just refined their art to a whole new level.

It truly is like we are witnessing the takeover of this country by an American Pravda. Best to turn them off and ignore it as much as possible and get your information from actual reliable news sources.

No they haven't. They even basically suppressed news about the Mideast peace gains. Probably because want to start more conflict. At least now anyone not for socialism or a Left Democrat knows the Media is the Democratic Party. The great `tuning out' and marginalization of them can begin among the center and right.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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esteban said:

The hilarious part is this was a triumph of the private sector that would normally be treated as validation of the conservative worldview. But Trump will always claim credit, and his supporters will believe him. So..


this is a hilariously stupid take.

i'll give you a few minutes to figure out why but i won't hold my breath as all you do is troll.
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YouBet said:



You questioned his "three years worth of tests" on a novel virus. I was merely pointing out that a lot of ground work had been done with SARS and MERS (as examples) that gave pharma a head start. Thus, much testing has been done in previous years that contributed to C19 developments.
Then why on earth would the "experts" like Fauci claim at best it would take 18 months to develop a vaccine. As time past, his latest was this summer and we would be fighting this virus through 2021 and into the middle of 2022 when we would be back to something akin to normal.

The cognitive dissonance against anything the Trump Administration accomplished is tiresome at best, flat out lies and ideological at worst.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
richardag
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esteban said:

The hilarious part is this was a triumph of the private sector that would normally be treated as validation of the conservative worldview. But Trump will always claim credit, and his supporters will believe him. So..
Your mistaken, President Trump has repeatedly praised the research and development of pharmaceutical companies, only stating his administration got out of the way of these companies.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
titan
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richardag said:

esteban said:

The hilarious part is this was a triumph of the private sector that would normally be treated as validation of the conservative worldview. But Trump will always claim credit, and his supporters will believe him. So..

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Your mistaken, President Trump has repeatedly praised the research and development of pharmaceutical companies, only stating his administration got out of the way of these companies.

Which is something Obamian Democrats would never have done. Get the hell out of the way.
FrioAg 00:
Leftist Democrats "have completely overplayed the Racism accusation. Honestly my first reaction when I hear it today is to assume bad intentions by the accuser, not the accused."
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Libs on this board trying hard.
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Yep.
Time dump the stock of the big pharma bros.

AOC will nationalize them soon enough.
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agjacent said:

Did you even bother to read the article you posted? In no way did Biden claim credit for the vaccine. Not like the trump administration and elected republicans, who are currently falling all over themselves to claim credit for the vaccine under Operation Warp Speed - which Pfizer was NOT associated with and took no money from.





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