Patience, this could take a month or two, democracy can be messy.

I'm not sure Joe is going to be saying that once it is truly being looked into.

He quickly go back to "come on, man"

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MouthBQ98 said:

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But the Dems apparently cheated anyways in targeted systematic fashion just to be sure and now we may never truly know. Now the result will always be suspect and we are even more divided.

So terrible.

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Very much this.

It isn't at all hyperbole to suggest that once a population has a substantial distrust of its elections, it is on the fast track to oblivion.

Well done Dems. Hope all that power was worth it.

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We had to do what we had to do. I was sworn to secrecy but since you all have found us out and uncovered our covert plot to steal the election. I no longer feel compelled to keep it a secret. I have meeting with the leaders of the cabal in the basement of the pizza shop at noon EST to celebrate without masks and laugh our asses off at how easy this was! Bwaaaahaaaahaaaa!!!!

OP, how long have you been hitting the sauce? There is no way Biden won legitimately.

He actually could have. These states were close, but we will never know now, will we?

MouthBQ98 said:

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The problem is now far fewer people trust the process itself.

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Nobody will trust the process going forward. No matter which side you're on. It's that obvious and glaring. Just wait until the roles are reversed.

Politicians have created a **** sandwich going forward, and they're gonna have to take a big bite of it also.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Biden will win out. The counts are in his favor and there's not a way to audit much of this accurately after the fact. Ballots are not referenced to mailing envelopes, for example.

The problem is now far fewer people trust the process itself.

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Agree with this. I think it's over and have mentally moved on to the Senate fights.

If the R's lose the Senate, then it's time for serious and quick money management to happen for all of your personal finances in whatever way you control that.

Anyone else believe the conservatives are the ones who are truly forward thinkers? I do.

mesocosm said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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But the Dems apparently cheated anyways in widespread systematic fashion just to be sure and now we may never truly know. Now the result will always be suspect and we are even more divided.


So terrible.

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Link to credible evidence of cheating?

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it will never be credible enough for you. Even if Biden admits to it.

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fixer said:

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MouthBQ98 said:

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But the Dems apparently cheated anyways in targeted systematic fashion just to be sure and now we may never truly know. Now the result will always be suspect and we are even more divided.

So terrible.

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Very much this.

It isn't at all hyperbole to suggest that once a population has a substantial distrust of its elections, it is on the fast track to oblivion.

Well done Dems. Hope all that power was worth it.

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We had to do what we had to do. I was sworn to secrecy but since you all have found us out and uncovered our covert plot to steal the election. I no longer feel compelled to keep it a secret. I have meeting with the leaders of the cabal in the basement of the pizza shop at noon EST to celebrate without masks and laugh our asses off at how easy this was! Bwaaaahaaaahaaaa!!!!

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Hope it was worth it.

Stolen elections have consequences.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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I still haven't heard a logical explanation as to why all states magically stopped counting ballots on election night when Trump was winning all of them.

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Watch it all or start at 24 min to answer your question.

2008 Obama vs 2020 Old Man Yells at Cars. Which one is the all time record get out the vote rock star again?

So how are democrats gonna do this thing?

There will be no more Trump to blame...gonna be tough to lead.

Tone2002 said:

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But yet they couldn't do this same thing in 2016.

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Not enough mail in balloting. This opened the door to massive cheating on an unprecedented scale.

Tone2002 said:

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But yet they couldn't do this same thing in 2016.

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Not enough mail in balloting allowing massive cheating on an unprecedented scale.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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I still haven't heard a logical explanation as to why all states magically stopped counting ballots on election night when Trump was winning all of them.

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They didn't, they just spaced out the updates.

oh no said:

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2008 Obama vs 2020 Old Man Yells at Cars. Which one is the all time record get out the vote rock star again?

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Compare that to this:



No people, brand new cars, no appearance in person, etc.

Obama was very popular, which is why there is no way that election was fraudulent. Biden has almost no one show up to anything he does. The dichotomy is enormous.

Tone2002 said:

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But yet they couldn't do this same thing in 2016.

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Did anyone in October 2016 think that Trump actually had a legitimate chance of defeating HRC?

It is beyond ironic and massively hypocritical that HRC is still claiming the 2016 election was "stolen" without any evidence at all to back it up, and yet now anyone even having the curiosity to question abnormalities is met with the "link to credible evidence" response, which in of itself is moronic. There is enough there to warrant looking into further.

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Husky Boy Jr. said:

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Of course he won legitimately. Only QAnon nut jobs like our current president would claim otherwise.

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Yeah, champ. JOE BIDEN became only the 2nd person in American history to lose both Ohio and Florida. Which Trump won massively. The other? JFK.


A guy with obvious dementia and who drew dick in the primaries of his own party blew out all prior presidential candidates.

Not to mention all the other mountains of clearly questionable issues.

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That's only one of many things that makes zero sense. During the primaries, an uncontested candidate, Trump, continually out performed the entire democratic field in total votes cast, and we're not talking about conservative bastions.

Tone2002 said:

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But yet they couldn't do this same thing in 2016.

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They never thought she'd lose so they were not prepared. You also didn't have mass mail voting to manipulate. But how quickly you forget Miami-Dade and Broward counties.

Quote:

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Once the fraudulent ballots are mixed in, you can't get them back out unless you canvass the voters or check death rolls.

Hey everybody, stop counting and let's go home. 4AM, while everyone is home, we will make the dump that covers the close margin and that will be that.

You don't catch it there, you won't catch it.

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I am starting to get to the point that if local election officials cannot follow the rules, then they need to be held accountable for disenfranchising their own voters via having the results invalidated. For example, if officials were ordered to segregate and count ballots received after 3 NOV 2020 but didn't, they shouldn't get to skate by saying all the votes have to count now. That is THEIR doing and they need to be held accountable. There is way too much public trust being given to these people to do anything otherwise.

Unless people are held accountable, and I do think there needs to be a high standard of proof, then there is really no point in having laws at this point.

ActualTalkingThermos said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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I still haven't heard a logical explanation as to why all states magically stopped counting ballots on election night when Trump was winning all of them.

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They didn't, they just spaced out the updates.

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but told the poll watchers to leave because they were going to quit.

We have plenty of evidence of the controls being bypassed and ignored.

That is all you need to void the result, esp when the margin of victory is TINY.

JFABNRGR said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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I still haven't heard a logical explanation as to why all states magically stopped counting ballots on election night when Trump was winning all of them.

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Watch it all or start at 24 min to answer your question.

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Thanks for the link. Has this been known by the DOJ and FBI?
Seems incredibly damning.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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ActualTalkingThermos said:

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HarryJ33tamu said:

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I still haven't heard a logical explanation as to why all states magically stopped counting ballots on election night when Trump was winning all of them.

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They didn't, they just spaced out the updates.

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but told the poll watchers to leave because they were going to quit.

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And they didn't quit - it was a ruse to get the watchers to leave.

The election was stolen. We are now Russia and Venezuela if we just sit and accept it.

Kenneth_2003 said:

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If he won legit them the R to D crossover at the top of the ballot was huge. How else whos you explain thr R down ballot success and lack of top of the ballot cost tails?

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Someone put together a nice bar graph on 4chan showing a huge R to D crossover except in the urban counties.

It leads to me suspect that the media covid fear campaign worked on the suburban voter. And that a lot of the republicans who mailed in ballots were scared of covid. The media covid lies worked, and I bet the optics of Trump Vs. Fauci played up by the media swayed some voters.

The data for the Pennsylvania mail ins are suspect because the crossover and/or independent margin they require.
It does make me think there is a chance many ballots were fraudulent, they're just so overwhelmingly Biden it doesn't pass the smell test. Like 80-20 for independents... just seems too extreme.

Conservative Ag said:

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Husky Boy Jr. said:

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Of course he won legitimately. Only QAnon nut jobs like our current president would claim otherwise.

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Yeah, champ. JOE BIDEN became only the 2nd person in American history to lose both Ohio and Florida. Which Trump won massively. The other? JFK.


A guy with obvious dementia and who drew dick in the primaries of his own party blew out all prior presidential candidates.

Not to mention all the other mountains of clearly questionable issues.

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And that was won clearly through fraud courtesy of Joe Kennedy and the Mafia.

The idea that observers were removed has already been disproven in court.

It is telling how much you all resort to just BS to justify cheating.

Even f****** Ben Shapiro has said that the amount of voter fraud is negligible.. the only people that don't trust the process now are the people who believe that Trump is the supreme source of truth in the world. How does it not occur to you that Trump could be lying?

Conservative Ag said:

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Husky Boy Jr. said:

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Of course he won legitimately. Only QAnon nut jobs like our current president would claim otherwise.

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Yeah, champ. JOE BIDEN became only the 2nd person in American history to lose both Ohio and Florida. Which Trump won massively. The other? JFK.


A guy with obvious dementia and who drew dick in the primaries of his own party blew out all prior presidential candidates.

Not to mention all the other mountains of clearly questionable issues.

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And it's well known that Kennedy cheated in Chicago.

That still doesn't say that people were removed, it just allows closer observation and that's a good thing. Just because someone doesn't support Trump doesn't mean that they support cheating. Pretty much everyone wants a fair election.

fixer said:

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So how are democrats gonna do this thing?

There will be no more Trump to blame...gonna be tough to lead.

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What you need to understand is, the Dems have no interest in leading. They are interested in ruling.

golfinag18 said:

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That still doesn't say that people were removed, it just allows closer observation and that's a good thing. Just because someone doesn't support Trump doesn't mean that they support cheating. Pretty much everyone wants a fair election.

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No they dont.

This wont hold up in court. Good luck.

golfinag18 said:

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Even f****** Ben Shapiro has said that the amount of voter fraud is negligible.. the only people that don't trust the process now are the people who believe that Trump is the supreme source of truth in the world. How does it not occur to you that Trump could be lying?

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Were there any major structural changes to voting in these states that might make previous stats non-applicable?