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War won't come until they try to take our guns.

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I agree. That is the breaking point.

Its coming

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Smokedraw01 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I absolutely despised seeing the riots and looting that tried to latch onto BLM. They accomplished nothing.

And there's plenty of problems with the BLM movement itself.

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Now do Antifa. Its the company you guy are keeping whether you like it or not.

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Well, you live in the same country as Antifa, so it's the company you are keeping.

See how simple that is and how simple that is.

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In bold. what ?

To the rest. Its a big country and no they are not my company. They are gum on the bottom of an old shoe. Well, on second thought, more like a used syringe in a street gutter in Portland.

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It's pretty easy. You've chosen to keep company with antifa by living in the same country with them. You do nothing actively but ***** and moan to stop them. So I could say that are part of the problem. Most Democrats have a problem with antifa. Is antifa even part of the Democratic Party or have you bought into a narrative that confirms your bias. Either way, it's a foolish argument you are making but then again, you went to a third rate public university.

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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daggertx said:

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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To add to my own post, I think gun owners are much more motivated today than they were in the 1990's. I don't know any gun owners, Republicans or Democrats, that have much compromise anymore. At least not active shooting/hunting/carrying gunowners. I am not talking about the heirloom owners. A lot of people vote Republican because of it, and a lot of Democrats lose because they are against it. Winning issue right now for Republicans.

And I spent 16 years selling guns just to add cool street cred to my opinion.

68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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Yea, but if 3% revolted, don't assume that they would have the support of the other 97%. No way.

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CS78 said:

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68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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Yea, but if 3% revolted, don't assume that they would have the support of the other 97%. No way.

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True. What percentage would it take? Maybe 50% of the conservative base in passive support? Once things go sideways, in the short term, the people with the guns make the rules. In the longterm, it could be one hell of a mess with all types of potential good and bad outcomes.

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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Didn't we hear the same **** when Obama was elected.

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Fishin Texas Aggie 05 said:

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Don't disagree but I get it

Stealing an election is kind of a big deal

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Trump won by 70k votes combined in 2016. Nobody claimed fraud, even the dems accepted the election results.

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Don't us hand that crap! Dems NEVER have accepted the results and have conducted all types of covert activities to remove Trump.

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I posted before, but what I mean was that the dems accepted that the VOTING PROCEDURES were valid, especially after the Wisconsin recount.

And yes, Trump presidency acceptance itself was different

NCSWC

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agsalaska said:

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CS78 said:

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68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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Yea, but if 3% revolted, don't assume that they would have the support of the other 97%. No way.

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True. What percentage would it take? Maybe 50% of the conservative base in support? Once things go sideways, in the short term, the people with the guns make the rules. In the longterm, it could be one hell of a mess with all types of potential good and bad outcomes.

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What is 50%, maybe 15% of the general population? It might be that many.

Agree with the rest.

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68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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Really, so you're going from support the police, the military, the constitution and democracy, to armed revolt?

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Fishin Texas Aggie 05 said:

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Don't disagree but I get it

Stealing an election is kind of a big deal

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Trump won by 70k votes combined in 2016. Nobody claimed fraud, even the dems accepted the election results.

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Holy crap are you kidding me?

They spent the next 4 years trying to remove him from office by claiming Russian interference. They impeached him.

They never accepted the election results. And now they want to question why people are questioning the results this year?

lol

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I mean that they did NOT question the actual voting process. It was ALL about how the states turned, polling was off. NOT about election fraud

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LOL if you can say the democrats accepted the election with a straight face.

2 year long Mueller investigation based on false evidence that the FBI knew was false.
Impeachment proceedings based on the falsified evidence.

Need I say more?

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Yeah, I get your point. But even in all the complaining and finger pointing, they didn't question the ballot counting itself, even though the result was unprecedented.

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Yeah, but the result was apparent the night of the election. It'd didnt span days. States didnt shut down the counting of votes. There wasnt (as much) random deliveries of boxes of ballots that were 100% for Hillary...Come on man. You're an Aggie. You're smarter than this.

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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Didn't we hear the same **** when Obama was elected.

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Now wait a minute Smokedraw, Obama tried. Really hard. Thats not really a defense of the Democrats or of the lack of effort, if that is what you were implying.

Any Democrat is certainly a threat to it.

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CS78 said:

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68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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Really, so you're going from support the police, the military, the constitution and democracy, to armed revolt?

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I'm just saying it wouldn't be that far fetched. And it would most likely be successful. Not armed revolt. Armed support of those things.

What would happen if three days before inauguration, things are still a mess, the media has given it to Biden, more fraud has been uncovered and the president sends out a tweet for help guarding the White House? He might be crazy enough to do it. You would see a few hundred thousand show up within hours fully willing to defend against tyranny.

Then what?

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Smokedraw01 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I absolutely despised seeing the riots and looting that tried to latch onto BLM. They accomplished nothing.

And there's plenty of problems with the BLM movement itself.

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Now do Antifa. Its the company you guy are keeping whether you like it or not.

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Well, you live in the same country as Antifa, so it's the company you are keeping.

See how simple that is and how simple that is.

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In bold. what ?

To the rest. Its a big country and no they are not my company. They are gum on the bottom of an old shoe. Well, on second thought, more like a used syringe in a street gutter in Portland.

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It's pretty easy. You've chosen to keep company with antifa by living in the same country with them. You do nothing actively but ***** and moan to stop them. So I could say that are part of the problem. Most Democrats have a problem with antifa. Is antifa even part of the Democratic Party or have you bought into a narrative that confirms your bias. Either way, it's a foolish argument you are making but then again, you went to a third rate public university.

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Antifa is the Democrats useful idiot Brownshirt brigade. They will be conveniently dispatched after the desired political outcome is achieved (which seems close).

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Smokedraw01 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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Didn't we hear the same **** when Obama was elected.

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Now wait a minute Smokedraw, Obama tried. Really hard. Thats not really a defense of the Democrats or of the lack of effort, if that is what you were implying.

Any Democrat is certainly a threat to it.

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What exactly did he do to "try hard"?

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Smokedraw01 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Smokedraw01 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I absolutely despised seeing the riots and looting that tried to latch onto BLM. They accomplished nothing.

And there's plenty of problems with the BLM movement itself.

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Now do Antifa. Its the company you guy are keeping whether you like it or not.

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Well, you live in the same country as Antifa, so it's the company you are keeping.

See how simple that is and how simple that is.

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In bold. what ?

To the rest. Its a big country and no they are not my company. They are gum on the bottom of an old shoe. Well, on second thought, more like a used syringe in a street gutter in Portland.

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It's pretty easy. You've chosen to keep company with antifa by living in the same country with them. You do nothing actively but ***** and moan to stop them. So I could say that are part of the problem. Most Democrats have a problem with antifa. Is antifa even part of the Democratic Party or have you bought into a narrative that confirms your bias. Either way, it's a foolish argument you are making but then again, you went to a third rate public university.

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Antifa is the Democrats useful idiot Brownshirt brigade. They will be conveniently dispatched after the desired political outcome is achieved (which seems close).

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Smokedraw01 said:

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Cheetah01 said:

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Smokedraw01 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Smokedraw01 said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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I absolutely despised seeing the riots and looting that tried to latch onto BLM. They accomplished nothing.

And there's plenty of problems with the BLM movement itself.

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Now do Antifa. Its the company you guy are keeping whether you like it or not.

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Well, you live in the same country as Antifa, so it's the company you are keeping.

See how simple that is and how simple that is.

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In bold. what ?

To the rest. Its a big country and no they are not my company. They are gum on the bottom of an old shoe. Well, on second thought, more like a used syringe in a street gutter in Portland.

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It's pretty easy. You've chosen to keep company with antifa by living in the same country with them. You do nothing actively but ***** and moan to stop them. So I could say that are part of the problem. Most Democrats have a problem with antifa. Is antifa even part of the Democratic Party or have you bought into a narrative that confirms your bias. Either way, it's a foolish argument you are making but then again, you went to a third rate public university.

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Antifa is the Democrats useful idiot Brownshirt brigade. They will be conveniently dispatched after the desired political outcome is achieved (which seems close).

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Someone should do a drug sweep on those insane imbeciles.

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agsalaska said:

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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Didn't we hear the same **** when Obama was elected.

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Now wait a minute Smokedraw, Obama tried. Really hard. Thats not really a defense of the Democrats or of the lack of effort, if that is what you were implying.

Any Democrat is certainly a threat to it.

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What exactly did he do to "try hard"?

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Were you alive in 2013? Do you think he made those efforts without trying to win? He gave that everything he had.

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Smokedraw01 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Smokedraw01 said:

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agsalaska said:

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daggertx said:

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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Didn't we hear the same **** when Obama was elected.

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Now wait a minute Smokedraw, Obama tried. Really hard. Thats not really a defense of the Democrats or of the lack of effort, if that is what you were implying.

Any Democrat is certainly a threat to it.

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What exactly did he do to "try hard"?

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Were you alive in 2013? Do you think he made those efforts without trying to win? He gave that everything he had.

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So explain to me what exactly he did to try hard?

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CS78 said:

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68,500,000 voted for Trump. If just 3% of Trump supporters were willing to take up arms in his defense, what could the libs do about it? Nothing!!! These would be the most diehard of supporters. Over 2,000,0000 of the best armed civilians in this country. One hell of an army! Even if heavily disorganized. Ex-military, leo, etc, resourceful men of men. They would also have the support of sheriff's, governors, etc.

How many Biden supporters would step up? I'd guess not many more than we've already seen. At max, a few thousand screw ups in each major city?

All sounds like fantasy but are we really that far from it? All it would take is a very small percentage!

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Really, so you're going from support the police, the military, the constitution and democracy, to armed revolt?

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I'm just saying it wouldn't be that far fetched. And it would most likely be successful. Not armed revolt. Armed support of those things.

What would happen if three days before inauguration, things are still a mess, the media has given it to Biden, more fraud has been uncovered and the president sends out a tweet for help guarding the White House? He might be crazy enough to do it. You would see a few hundred thousand show up within hours fully willing to defend against tyranny.

Then what?

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Honestly I think everyone wants this circus to end. Even yesterday when Prez Trump claimed Michigan, and said stop counting, a super tired looking Pence took the stage and said the counting will continue.

Other than Trump, GOP did spectacular. Kept the Senate, Gained in the house, maintained every state legislator.

Mitch Mcconnel would be super happy other than the Georgia runoffs.

Not going to argue with you anymore. You and I both know which party Antifa subversives votes for. I'll stand aside and let you continue pretending otherwise.

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Take a deep breath and stop it. You sound ridiculous.

You like to ridicule liberals for their TDS, but then say things like this.

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I imagine many of those folks will be back at work tomorrow doing whatever they do, and then watching Aggie football on Saturday.

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Take a deep breath and stop it. You sound ridiculous.

You like to ridicule liberals for their TDS, but then say things like this.

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I would rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.

Do you think the soy boy libs and white shame girls are the only ones capable of violence?

Time for the wolves to start managing the sheep. It's due time they learned a big mouth doesn't earn you a free

pass. Let Darwin's theory run its course. If you are one of the weak, make sure you befriend a wolf or two.

Time to let the toxic masculinity flow.

Not many have come to peace with how violent they can truly be.

The commies have flipped this nation and it's time to get it back.

McCarthy was right.

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Not going to argue with you anymore. You and I both know which party Antifa subversives votes for. I'll stand aside and let you continue pretending otherwise.

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So the image is just fake news.

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Smokedraw01 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Smokedraw01 said:

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Its coming

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Lots of people make the argument that they will do it slowly. And they are certainly trying. But there is a large push within the Dem Party to do it quickly and decisively. Large enough to bring actual legislation. The only reason you can still own what you can today is the NRA, a unified Republican Senate, and two Dems in 2013.

But I dont think the Dems in the Senate are any closer today than they were then. I dont notice, when I go to the range for example, what I would perceive as a partisan crowd. And my range is just south of Waco.

Don't get me wrong about the threat that they pose. But we are more armed than we have ever been, and I am just fine with that. The more 2A Democrats the better.

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Didn't we hear the same **** when Obama was elected.

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Now wait a minute Smokedraw, Obama tried. Really hard. Thats not really a defense of the Democrats or of the lack of effort, if that is what you were implying.

Any Democrat is certainly a threat to it.

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What exactly did he do to "try hard"?

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Were you alive in 2013? Do you think he made those efforts without trying to win? He gave that everything he had.

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So explain to me what exactly he did to try hard?

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I will not go down this thread any further. I am not going to argue whether or not that qualifies as 'tries so hard'

Have a good evening.

If that is trying hard, what are you worried about. The bill barely made it out of committee.

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All of you calling for war....

Take a deep breath and stop it. You sound ridiculous.

You like to ridicule liberals for their TDS, but then say things like this.

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When they come for your weapons is that time for war? Whey they tax you 60, 70, 80, 90% is that time for war? When they send their social justice team to your door to examine your property, is that time for war? When they jail you for speaking about God, is that time for war? Should we wait for our hands to be tied, our legs bonded, our numbers reduced before fighting? They have been at war with individual freedom since it was invented. Are we not allowed to fight back?

Pretty sure this country was started for a lot less than your questions. It is amazing how much some people want to be "taken care of" by the government.

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Don't disagree but I get it

Stealing an election is kind of a big deal

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Who stole an election?

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Take a deep breath and stop it. You sound ridiculous.

You like to ridicule liberals for their TDS, but then say things like this.

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No. This is a coup and it absolutely IS an act of war. The election has millions of faked votes.

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Proof? Other than deep internet conspiracies?

If you don't have proof, and you're spreading info that there are MILLIONS of faked votes, then how do you not become part of the problem that most on this board are railing against (truth, integrity, etc?)