Trump's COVID response approvals lag his overall approvals, the virus becoming the headline again will not do him any favors. We saw this happen when he contracted the virus and polls trended away from him, which is part of why he and his campaign were so quick to try and move past it.

The silver lining for the Trump campaign is that 70+ million votes have already been cast, so polling swings at this point have diminishing returns compared to previous cycles.

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Trump's COVID response approvals lag his overall approvals, the virus becoming the headline again will not do him any favors. We saw this happen when he contracted the virus and polls trended away from him, which is part of why he and his campaign were so quick to try and move past it.

The silver lining for the Trump campaign is that 70+ million votes have already been cast, so polling swings at this point have diminishing returns compared to previous cycles.

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What makes you think most Americans think the virus is the big headline again? I think what Biden said about oil and gas was bigger.

So what is your theory as to why Biden is campaigning so little this week?

Prevent defense?

texaglurkerguy said:

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Trump's COVID response approvals lag his overall approvals, the virus becoming the headline again will not do him any favors. We saw this happen when he contracted the virus and polls trended away from him, which is part of why he and his campaign were so quick to try and move past it.

The silver lining for the Trump campaign is that 70+ million votes have already been cast, so polling swings at this point have diminishing returns compared to previous cycles.

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Yeah, I would take the Covid opportunity to end oil&gas and riot in Philly.

It polls well per CNN.

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Trump's COVID response approvals lag his overall approvals, the virus becoming the headline again will not do him any favors. We saw this happen when he contracted the virus and polls trended away from him, which is part of why he and his campaign were so quick to try and move past it.

The silver lining for the Trump campaign is that 70+ million votes have already been cast, so polling swings at this point have diminishing returns compared to previous cycles.

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What makes you think most Americans think the virus is the big headline again? I think what Biden said about oil and gas was bigger.

So what is your theory as to why Biden is campaigning so little this week?

Prevent defense?

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I was referring to Wisconsin specifically, the subject of the poll in question. Wisconsin is one of the current COVID hotspots (daily case and death counts are higher now than at any point this year), and is not a major oil and gas state.

Prevent defense is a good way of putting it, yes.

Biden may be up, but hes not up 17 points.

Put these numbers in perspective. If Biden is up by these numbers he is reaching Reagan levels of results. He would be out performing FDR while leading the US through the end stages of WWII. These numbers don't make sense. Look around your life and take the media created scales over your eyes off...do these numbers make sense?

no wonder Biden isn't bothering to campaign! He's reached higher rock-star status than Obama ever did! The energy and excitement around Joe Biden is palpable.

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According to the notes, the methodology here was basically:

Ask people to rate how worried they are that coronavirus will kill their family.

Ask people to rate how enthusiastically they support Joe Biden.

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So basically, this was a Joe Biden fan poll and he could only win by 17 points. That's gotta have his campaign in panic (or stop spending money in Wisconsin) mode.

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Put these numbers in perspective. If Biden is up by these numbers he is reaching Reagan levels of results. He would be out performing FDR while leading the US through the end stages of WWII. These numbers don't make sense. Look around your life and take the media created scales over your eyes off...do these numbers make sense?

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Exactly. It makes zero sense.

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Stock market tanking ain't gonna help Trump either.

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We haven't seen these levels since last week!

Anyone paying attention to the market knows that people are hedging/sitting out. You want to see a tank, wait until Biden wins, that'll be a tank.

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Yep. 450 is not a huge deal. If I see 900 or 1000 before Tuesday then I think that bodes badly for Trump, meaning people think that idiot Biden will win. Those in the know will be selling to get out early.

AgBQ-00 said:

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Put these numbers in perspective. If Biden is up by these numbers he is reaching Reagan levels of results. He would be out performing FDR while leading the US through the end stages of WWII. These numbers don't make sense. Look around your life and take the media created scales over your eyes off...do these numbers make sense?

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Its an effort at both voter suppression and to delegitimize a Trump win.

Evil on all counts boarding on treasonous

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Stock market tanking ain't gonna help Trump either.

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We haven't seen these levels since last week!

Anyone paying attention to the market knows that people are hedging/sitting out. You want to see a tank, wait until Biden wins, that'll be a tank.

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Yep. 450 is not a huge deal. If I see 900 or 1000 before Tuesday then I think that bodes badly for Trump, meaning people think that idiot Biden will win. Those in the know will be selling to get out early.

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So you think a Biden win brings the market down?

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jagged said:

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Stock market tanking ain't gonna help Trump either.

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We haven't seen these levels since last week!

Anyone paying attention to the market knows that people are hedging/sitting out. You want to see a tank, wait until Biden wins, that'll be a tank.

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Yep. 450 is not a huge deal. If I see 900 or 1000 before Tuesday then I think that bodes badly for Trump, meaning people think that idiot Biden will win. Those in the know will be selling to get out early.

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So you think a Biden win brings the market down?

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Well yeah, Capital tends to run from high tax policies/places.

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jagged said:

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Stock market tanking ain't gonna help Trump either.

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We haven't seen these levels since last week!

Anyone paying attention to the market knows that people are hedging/sitting out. You want to see a tank, wait until Biden wins, that'll be a tank.

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Yep. 450 is not a huge deal. If I see 900 or 1000 before Tuesday then I think that bodes badly for Trump, meaning people think that idiot Biden will win. Those in the know will be selling to get out early.

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So you think a Biden win brings the market down?

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Well yeah, Capital tends to run from high tax policies/places.

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I tend to agree. Yet another reason why I could never vote for him.

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and is not a major oil and gas state.

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But they are a major source of sand for fracking. And they also have the mining industry.

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and is not a major oil and gas state.

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But they are a major source of sand for fracking. And they also have the mining industry.

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I interviewed with a high voltage transformer manufacturer in Milwaukee for national sales manager of Oil&Gas.

FriscoKid said:

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Biden is more popular than Obama???

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According to some polls he's more popular than Reagan...

Not here to burst your bubble but that + 17 is actually a typo. He is actually up + 170 . That is today. Leading unbias news analyst and politicians
believe by election day Bidens lead might be up tp
+ 340

Well, at least the ABC/Washington Post team is clearly not being influenced by pollster "herding".

The statistical MOE from that poll suggests that it is unlikely that Trump is doing better than minus 9 in Wisconsin. Better hope that the modeling is off, substantially, if you're a Trump fan.

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The silver lining for the Trump campaign is that 70+ million votes have already been cast, so polling swings at this point have diminishing returns compared to previous cycles.

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You want another silver lining. A vast majority of in person voting will be R's also which will be extending his lead.

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Voter suppression poll

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Seems like a similar tactic to that used by Felix Gallardo in at attempt to sway the election in Narcos Season 2.

I just can't trust anything anymore. These polls seem like election tampering. And we know libs will do anything to defeat orange man bad, no matter how unethical, immoral or downright criminal.

F all liberals. Especially the white ones.

YokelRidesAgain said:

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Well, at least the ABC/Washington Post team is clearly not being influenced by pollster "herding".

The statistical MOE from that poll suggests that it is unlikely that Trump is doing better than minus 9 in Wisconsin. Better hope that the modeling is off, substantially, if you're a Trump fan.

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Meh, WI will just be icing on the cake for Team Trump.

Biden: More popular than Obama AND Reagan!

Biden's internal polling has him inside of 14.


Hopefully it doesn't go any lower.

Trump wouldn't be doing multiple rallies in Wisconsin on Friday if the campaign thought he was actually down that much.