I believe everything Kelly said. Why wouldn't you?

But Trump has done a good job on lots of things, and his opponent is struggling with oncoming dementia.

So, I wouldn't want to work with Trump. I wouldn't do business with him. I wouldn't represent him as a law client. I wouldn't hire him to babysit.

But I'll vote for him.

I'm sure it is chaotic working for Trump, especially when he was trying to find all the leaks in the early period. There were numerous traitorous scumbags embedded in his administration and he had to identify and remove them. I'm sure he had to play lots of games to get them to come out into the open.

AgInTheColony said:

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Apparently he never met Obama

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Or Clinton or Biden or Epstein or Pelops I or ........

DisappointedAg said:

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"Former" = "Disgruntled"

Drain the swamp.

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Considering all the distinguished former Trump administration insiders who have expressed similar views of Trump, why do people assume some that they are all just disgruntled?

General Kelly is far from being alone in his criticisms of Trump. He's just one of many. Some of the better known includes not only John Kelley, but also John Bolton, James Mattis, Miles Taylor, and even his former fixer, Michael Cohen.

Others such as McMaster tend to keep their mouth shut, but have expressed problems with the way Trump runs things.

One or two such people might be disgruntled. The numbers we are seeing would seem to indicate a real problem with this administration.

It is extremely dishonest of the national political press to push these anonymous sourced stories of folks who used to work for Trump who despise him when right out in the open are former White House officials who worked very closely with Trump who have very good things to say about him. This interview stands out:

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eric76 said:

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DisappointedAg said:

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"Former" = "Disgruntled"

Drain the swamp.

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Considering all the distinguished former Trump administration insiders who have expressed similar views of Trump, why do people assume some that they are all just disgruntled?

General Kelly is far from being alone in his criticisms of Trump. He's just one of many. Some of the better known includes not only John Kelley, but also John Bolton, James Mattis, Miles Taylor, and even his former fixer, Michael Cohen.

Others such as McMaster tend to keep their mouth shut, but have expressed problems with the way Trump runs things.

One or two such people might be disgruntled. The numbers we are seeing would seem to indicate a real problem with this administration.

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I still remember 3 years ago when this forum was so enamored with Mad Dog. Thought his appointment was the best thing Trump had done. Huge Kelly fans as well. Crazy how quickly they got labeled traitors, libs and members of the Swamp.

eric76 said:

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DisappointedAg said:

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"Former" = "Disgruntled"

Drain the swamp.

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Considering all the distinguished former Trump administration insiders who have expressed similar views of Trump, why do people assume some that they are all just disgruntled?

General Kelly is far from being alone in his criticisms of Trump. He's just one of many. Some of the better known includes not only John Kelley, but also John Bolton, James Mattis, Miles Taylor, and even his former fixer, Michael Cohen.

Others such as McMaster tend to keep their mouth shut, but have expressed problems with the way Trump runs things.

One or two such people might be disgruntled. The numbers we are seeing would seem to indicate a real problem with this administration.

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President Trump was an outsider and was at a severe disadvantage in choosing staff. But not all Military leaders dislike President Trump.

These are all high ranking Generals/Admirals
235 retired military leaders publicly endorse Trump in open letter here it is

So he told his friends all this and one of them (unnamed) reports it to CNN..tabloid journalism.

damiond said:

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"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends, CNN has learned.

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The guy was the WH COS for a year and a half. When exactly did he come to this conclusion? The day he was fired? The first day? In between? Regardless of the answer to that question, it speaks more to Kelly's credibility here than it does to Trump's alleged dishonesty.

I'd never work for a dishonest person, especially if I didn't have to. Either Kelly was doing it solely because of what was in it for him or he is being dishonest now. Which is it?

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damiond said:

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"The depths of his dishonesty is just astounding to me. The dishonesty, the transactional nature of every relationship, though it's more pathetic than anything else. He is the most flawed person I have ever met in my life," the retired Marine general has told friends, CNN has learned.

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The guy was the WH COS for a year and a half. When exactly did he come to this conclusion? The day he was fired? The first day? In between? Regardless of the answer to that question, it speaks more to Kelly's credibility here than it does to Trump's alleged dishonesty.

I'd never work for a dishonest person, especially if I didn't have to. Either Kelly was doing it solely because of what was in it for him or he is being dishonest now. Which is it?

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I mean he was Chief of Staff. Trump is president. He wasn't going anywhere. Maybe he thought he'd do more good staying than leaving.

Jayhawk said:

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Most of our generals are useless sociopaths.

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Didn't Obama purge a lot of the top military people and promote his own people? That would explain why these generals are "useless sociopaths".

Lol at whining about Trump being "transactional". What the hell else do you do when you're negotiating? Hugs?

The problem with Joe is he can't remember all of his corruption.

The general officer staff is more of a swamp than Capitol Hill.

Never underestimate the ability of someone with a star on their collar to throw somebody under the bus.

Jayhawk said:

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Most of our generals are useless sociopaths.

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I am fine with never having one for POTUS.