LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all through the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I denounce the Proud Boys. I guess I'm brave that way.

LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

Caesar4 said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I denounce the Proud Boys. I guess I'm brave that way.

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Thank you x1000. I'm truly glad and relieved someone does.

Gigem314 said:

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It was his worst answer, but also his trickiest. Trump should have just let him dig himself a hole but he wouldn't STFU and cost his chance at a real sound bite.

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I'm seeing this "Trump cost himself a media sound bite" talking point a lot from you dems tonight.

The media was never going to use any pro-Trump soundbites from this debate tonight. They would just be ignored.

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Are there a lot of Dems on here? I saw it from more conservative posters than the handful of Dems who echoed the thought.

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And Wallace didn't force the issue.

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He was too busy forcing his agenda on Trump while protecting Joe.

That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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LoneStarAg10 said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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96AgGrad said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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96AgGrad said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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96AgGrad said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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4stringAg said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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Evanhue said:

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Are the Proud Boys the left's new boogieman?
Good grief.

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They're literal white supremecists dude.

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They have Latinos and blacks in their ranks.

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Oh so that justifies what they stand for?

Get real.

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You seem to be the expert on them - What do they stand for? Whites that take pride in their country are automatically White Supremacists?

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So, just to be totally clear, you're totally fine with white supremacy as long as it's gift wrapped as "patriotism"?

These are people who have publicly supported to extermination of the Jews. This is not a winning argument for you, or for anyone, and it's disgusting to see them defended on this site.

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You still haven't told me what they stand for. I am aware of white supremacy is. I'm just trying to figure how you logically concluded that it's a platform of the Proud Boys. I mean other than a cynical political smear designed to hurt Republicans.

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Unreal. This site is straight up defending the Proud Boys. This is truly shameful, and honestly a pretty sad portrait of American views.

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I've heard your unfounded claim multiple times now. Where's your justification?

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I provided sources. This is tragic. Y'alls true colors are showing. How hard is it to say you denounce anti-Semitism and white supremacy?

Here are more:
https://www.adl.org/node/14965/resource-pdf
https://longislandwins.com/news/long-island/with-violent-proud-boys-trying-to-recruit-on-long-island-a-look-at-their-record-of-anti-semitism/

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I'll go first: I denounce ALL antisemitism, racism, and white supremacy.

Now you turn to denounce all violence from Antifa and BLM and the left wing liberals who continue to allow them to carry out their destruction of communities and our country.

Democrats are not keeping their terrorist organizations from destroying America. Are you proud of that?

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So then why did Donald Trump tell an Anti-Semitic, White Supremecist organization to "stand by"?

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He didn't. He told a group of proud Americans to stand by.

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In case they're needed? He has the full force of the Federal government behind his back. If he's somehow stymied from being able to wield it for some inexplicable reason, it's nice to know that he has the Proud Boys on stand by as a surrogate?

It was a laughably terrible response, even assuming Proud Boys are just a patriotic militia without all the baggage that got them used as a gotcha in a debate. POTUS is still pandering to those who love him though, and you have to respect his refusal to disavow anyone who'd in turn support him, which can't be an easy thing either.

That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LightningDammitt said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE financially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

That_Guy_Moose said:

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LoneStarAg10 said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LoneStarAg10 said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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LoneStarAg10 said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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agsquirrel97 said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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96AgGrad said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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96AgGrad said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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96AgGrad said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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4stringAg said:

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That_Guy_Moose said:

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Evanhue said:

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Are the Proud Boys the left's new boogieman?
Good grief.

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They're literal white supremecists dude.

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They have Latinos and blacks in their ranks.

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Oh so that justifies what they stand for?

Get real.

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You seem to be the expert on them - What do they stand for? Whites that take pride in their country are automatically White Supremacists?

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So, just to be totally clear, you're totally fine with white supremacy as long as it's gift wrapped as "patriotism"?

These are people who have publicly supported to extermination of the Jews. This is not a winning argument for you, or for anyone, and it's disgusting to see them defended on this site.

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You still haven't told me what they stand for. I am aware of white supremacy is. I'm just trying to figure how you logically concluded that it's a platform of the Proud Boys. I mean other than a cynical political smear designed to hurt Republicans.

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Unreal. This site is straight up defending the Proud Boys. This is truly shameful, and honestly a pretty sad portrait of American views.

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I've heard your unfounded claim multiple times now. Where's your justification?

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I provided sources. This is tragic. Y'alls true colors are showing. How hard is it to say you denounce anti-Semitism and white supremacy?

Here are more:
https://www.adl.org/node/14965/resource-pdf
https://longislandwins.com/news/long-island/with-violent-proud-boys-trying-to-recruit-on-long-island-a-look-at-their-record-of-anti-semitism/

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I did it earlier. I denounce white supremacy and anti semitism in all forms.

Do you denounce Ilhan Omar, she was voted the anti Semite of the year.

I do not agree with the totality of proud boys platform, but you are making me defend them by promoting flat out lies.

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So you admit you see an openly Anti-Semetic, White Supremacist organization... and think that you have to defend them at all?

Not a good look.

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You are the deflection king. The Democrats are the party of the KKK and now home to antisemetic extreme Muslims. But I'm sure your just look away and ignore that.

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I'm not the one on here defending the Proud Boys.

I denounce all violence. I always have. There ZERO place for it in American society. Pinning this on me does not refute what I have posted about the Proud Boys and I am STILL disgusted that you're even willing to continue arguing this point on the topic. I'm not the one who is having issues denouncing racism here.

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You did not denounce Antifa and BLM as racists terrorist organizations and their liberal handlers that are allowing them to operate and kill cops. Therefore, you must support them!!! Marxist!!!

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This is the THIRD TIME in this thread alone that I have denounced ALL violence and hate, whether ANTIFA, or Proud Boys. They all deserve the full measure of the law commensurate with their crimes.

But no one person I have engaged with here has done the same for the Proud Boys. Not one.

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But didn't your candidate claim that Antifa wasn't an organization? He didn't denounce them. I wonder if he supports them....

How do it feel about Biden not denouncing Antifa?

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Biden has denounced all violence numerous times, it is disingenuous to suggest otherwise. That included ANTIFA and it includes the Proud Boys. He even said it in today's debate.

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Only when his poll numbers started to slip. It took them long enough to denounce any violence because those are the Democrat voters. A bunch of idiots

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

I

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Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, an organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

I

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Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, and organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

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This is absurd. You are calling out people for participating in political discussions as supporting Proud Boys... You are flat out saying said posters support white supremacists... and yet, you PAY for the messages you are getting, receiving?

And again... provide a quote where I supported them!

They are a violent group. They also have a multi-race mix in their "membership". I denounce their violence, both race related, and non-race related.

Now... Cultural marxism?

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

I

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Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, and organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

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This is absurd. You are calling out people for participating in political discussions as supporting Proud Boys... You are flat out saying said posters support white supremacists... and yet, you PAY for the messages you are getting, receiving?

And again... provide a quote where I supported them!

They are a violent group. They also have a multi-race mix in their "membership". I denounce their violence, both race related, and non-race related.

Now... Cultural marxism?

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Thank you, was that really so hard to do? Why did you fight me for 5 pages to say, simply, white supremacy and anti-semitism are bad?

To combat your second question. You realize the concept of cultural Marxism began from the far right, right? And that it has be discredited as pure fallacy from almost its origination? I honestly don't understand why it is even relevant to this conversation or why you would even bring it up in this context. Cultural Marxism is nothing more than fantastical conspiracy disguised as "critical thought" by right wing troll farms.

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

---

Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

I

---

Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, and organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

---

This is absurd. You are calling out people for participating in political discussions as supporting Proud Boys... You are flat out saying said posters support white supremacists... and yet, you PAY for the messages you are getting, receiving?

And again... provide a quote where I supported them!

They are a violent group. They also have a multi-race mix in their "membership". I denounce their violence, both race related, and non-race related.

Now... Cultural marxism?

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Thank you, was that really so hard to do? Why did you fight me for 5 pages to say, simply, white supremacy and anti-semitism are bad?

To combat your second question. You realize the concept of cultural Marxism began from the far right, right? And that it has be discredited as pure fallacy from almost its origination? I honestly don't understand why it is even relevant to this conversation or why you would even bring it up in this context. Cultural Marxism is nothing more than fantastical conspiracy disguised as "critical thought" by right wing troll farms.

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I did not say those things earlier, since I did not perceive that you were directi g the question at me. You see, I cannot be perceived as a white supremacist, unless someone were to assume my race... and then project thoughts/actions upon me that do not exist.

You seem quite defensive... why is that?

Most of your ulrural marxism statements seem to be angry...

I really am trying to get a good definition of cultural marxism... "my" perceptions of what it means seems quite relevant to the thread, but I feel, especially due to you taking offense, that I need to better understand it!

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

I

---

Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, and organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

---

This is absurd. You are calling out people for participating in political discussions as supporting Proud Boys... You are flat out saying said posters support white supremacists... and yet, you PAY for the messages you are getting, receiving?

And again... provide a quote where I supported them!

They are a violent group. They also have a multi-race mix in their "membership". I denounce their violence, both race related, and non-race related.

Now... Cultural marxism?

---

Thank you, was that really so hard to do? Why did you fight me for 5 pages to say, simply, white supremacy and anti-semitism are bad?

To combat your second question. You realize the concept of cultural Marxism began from the far right, right? And that it has be discredited as pure fallacy from almost its origination? I honestly don't understand why it is even relevant to this conversation or why you would even bring it up in this context. Cultural Marxism is nothing more than fantastical conspiracy disguised as "critical thought" by right wing troll farms.

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I did not say those things earlier, since I did not perceive that you were directi g the question at me. You see, I cannot be perceived as a white supremacist, unless someone were to assume my race... and then project thoughts/actions upon me that do not exist.

You seem quite defensive... why is that?

Most of your ulrural marxism statements seem to be angry...

I really am trying to get a good definition of cultural marxism... "my" perceptions of what it means seems quite relevant to the thread, but I feel, especially due to you taking offense, that I need to better understand it!

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Not sure what you need to know. Cultural Marxism is a totally discredited conspiracy theory. There is nothing else to it.

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agsquirrel97 said:

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

---

I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

---

I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

---

Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

---

You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

---

... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

---

I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

---

Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

---

I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

---

Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

---

Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

---

Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

I

---

Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, and organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

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This is absurd. You are calling out people for participating in political discussions as supporting Proud Boys... You are flat out saying said posters support white supremacists... and yet, you PAY for the messages you are getting, receiving?

And again... provide a quote where I supported them!

They are a violent group. They also have a multi-race mix in their "membership". I denounce their violence, both race related, and non-race related.

Now... Cultural marxism?

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Thank you, was that really so hard to do? Why did you fight me for 5 pages to say, simply, white supremacy and anti-semitism are bad?

To combat your second question. You realize the concept of cultural Marxism began from the far right, right? And that it has be discredited as pure fallacy from almost its origination? I honestly don't understand why it is even relevant to this conversation or why you would even bring it up in this context. Cultural Marxism is nothing more than fantastical conspiracy disguised as "critical thought" by right wing troll farms.

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I did not say those things earlier, since I did not perceive that you were directi g the question at me. You see, I cannot be perceived as a white supremacist, unless someone were to assume my race... and then project thoughts/actions upon me that do not exist.

You seem quite defensive... why is that?

Most of your ulrural marxism statements seem to be angry...

I really am trying to get a good definition of cultural marxism... "my" perceptions of what it means seems quite relevant to the thread, but I feel, especially due to you taking offense, that I need to better understand it!

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Not sure what you need to know. Cultural Marxism is a totally discredited conspiracy theory. There is nothing else to it.

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Well, that is not very helpful...

Blacks involved in white supremacist groups is pretty thoroughly discredited also...

Sorry I stressed you with the vociferous gymnastics!

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Moose, I really mean this sincerely. Get a variety of news sources and apply your critical thinking skills. Don't believe everything you hear or see, I can go edit Wikipedia right now and "journalists" only write what gets them clicks.

There are many angles to every story, listen and think for yourself.

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I have provided 4 different sources. No one has provided a single one refuting what I've claimed.

The Proud Boys are a white supremecist, Anti-Semitic organization, and the users of this site are defending them!

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I see two stars by your name... why are you finamcially supporting a site that YOU claim is supporting white supremacists?

Kinda hypocritical... don't ya think?

Can you give me a good definition of cultural marxism?

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Dude. Posters have spent 2 pages here defending the Proud Boys and not one has fully denounced their Anti-Semitic, White Supremacist agenda, and you're okay with that?

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You did not answer my question... if anything, you seem to be dodging it...

Are you asking us to justify your perceived support of white supremacy?

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... what? The mental gymnastics required to make your logical are truly staggering. Not one person here has denounced the Proud Boys and their agenda in their entirety, including a group of leaders who believe strongly in white nationalism and anti-Semitism. Not one person has said the words "I denounce the Proud Boys." Not one.

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I see denunciation of the Proud Boys... all thrkught the thread.

I also see that you financially support an organization that you perceive to support white supremacy. There is no mental gymnastics in that.

Do you have a good definition for cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation do the Proud Boys. One.

Why do you think I'm so incensed by this? I'm asking regarding the posters of this site. I pay TexAgs for A&M football content, I'm appalled by the fact that others who share that appeal believe it is okay, in any form, to run point for White nationalism and Anti-Semitism. That has nothing to do with cultural Marxism at all, that's simply common human decency.

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I think most of the thread is a pretty good link denouncing Proud Boys.

I also think contributing $$$ to a group of people who you perceive to be supporting white supremacy is a guise for your true position.

I am honestly trying to make this a beneficial discussion for both of us,, but you seem driven to project an image upon posters of this site... and not a very pretty one...

Care to play fair, and answer my question in return? Cultural marxism?

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Link one full denunciation of the Proud Boys in this thread, other than the one above. Lord knows you haven't done it.

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The thread itself is a great reference... why link.a thread that you are already reading?

Are you going to answer my question? Or is it too white supremacist for you to do so?

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Between the two of us, I am not the one defending a group of people with documented and expressed White supremacist and Anti-Semitic sentiment.

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Between the two of us?

LOL! Provide a link where I defended them!

You ARE finamcially supporting a group of people that you feel is white supremecist...

Why would you do that?

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Your vociferous assault on my argument displays a complicity with the defense of the Proud Boys, and organization whose leaders, documented across 5 different sources I have provided, have expressed sentiment in favor of the Holocaust and white ethnostates.

I legitimately do not understand what you believe you have to gain by arguing this point.

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This is absurd. You are calling out people for participating in political discussions as supporting Proud Boys... You are flat out saying said posters support white supremacists... and yet, you PAY for the messages you are getting, receiving?

And again... provide a quote where I supported them!

They are a violent group. They also have a multi-race mix in their "membership". I denounce their violence, both race related, and non-race related.

Now... Cultural marxism?

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Thank you, was that really so hard to do? Why did you fight me for 5 pages to say, simply, white supremacy and anti-semitism are bad?

To combat your second question. You realize the concept of cultural Marxism began from the far right, right? And that it has be discredited as pure fallacy from almost its origination? I honestly don't understand why it is even relevant to this conversation or why you would even bring it up in this context. Cultural Marxism is nothing more than fantastical conspiracy disguised as "critical thought" by right wing troll farms.

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I did not say those things earlier, since I did not perceive that you were directi g the question at me. You see, I cannot be perceived as a white supremacist, unless someone were to assume my race... and then project thoughts/actions upon me that do not exist.

You seem quite defensive... why is that?

Most of your ulrural marxism statements seem to be angry...

I really am trying to get a good definition of cultural marxism... "my" perceptions of what it means seems quite relevant to the thread, but I feel, especially due to you taking offense, that I need to better understand it!

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Not sure what you need to know. Cultural Marxism is a totally discredited conspiracy theory. There is nothing else to it.

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Well, that is not very helpful...

Blacks involved in white supremacist groups is pretty thoroughly discredited also...

Sorry I stressed you with the vociferous gymnastics!

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I have provided ample evidence that supports the claim that the Proud Boys and their leadership is in favor of White Nationalism. One picture does not refute the statements made by their leadership. Their attendance at White Nationalist rallies belies a different story.

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I have provided ample evidence that supports the claim that the Proud Boys and their leadership is in favor of White Nationalism. One picture does not refute the statements made by their leadership. Their attendance at White Nationalist rallies belies a different story.

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Earlier you said White Supremacist. Now you are focusing on White Nationalism. There is a big difference.

nationalist
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a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

So is it no OK for a white person to strongly identify with their own nation?

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I have provided ample evidence that supports the claim that the Proud Boys and their leadership is in favor of White Nationalism. One picture does not refute the statements made by their leadership. Their attendance at White Nationalist rallies belies a different story.

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Earlier you said White Supremacist. Now you are focusing on White Nationalism. There is a big difference.

nationalist
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a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

So is it no OK for a white person to strongly identify with their own nation?

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There is no "White" American nation. There is just America. We are all Americans, no matter what we look like, or what belief system we follow, or what our politics are. It's sad that I even have to explain that, but, given our entire conversation to now is sadly unsurprising.

This is truly disappointing. You refuse to disavow the Proud Boys and their publicly hateful rhetoric. I have provided 5 sources explicitly outlining their long history of racial and religious bigotry, and, like Donald Trump, you cannot bring yourself to say "I disavow this."

What do you expect to gain from this? Is there a reward for being complicit in the defense of hatred and vitriol towards your fellow man? Please, I ask, look inward. Disavow hate. Find faith in your fellow man, and in our ability to work together. I implore you, please stop with this defense of bigotry

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In practice, nationalism can be seen as positive or negative depending on context and individual outlook. Nationalism has been an important driver in independence movements such as:

* the Greek Revolution
* the Irish Revolution
* the Zionist movement that created modern Israel
* and the dissolution of the Soviet Union

Conversely, radical nationalism combined with racial hatred was also a key factor in the Holocaust perpetrated by Nazi Germany.

More recently, nationalism was an important driver of the controversial annexation of Crimea by Russia

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There is no "White" American nation. There is just America. We are all Americans, no matter what we look like, or what belief system we follow, or what our politics are. It's sad that I even have to explain that, but, given our entire conversation to now is sadly unsurprising.

This is truly disappointing. You refuse to disavow the Proud Boys and their publicly hateful rhetoric. I have provided 5 sources explicitly outlining their long history of racial and religious bigotry, and, like Donald Trump, you cannot bring yourself to say "I disavow this."

What do you expect to gain from this? Is there a reward for being complicit in the defense of hatred and vitriol towards your fellow man? Please, I ask, look inward. Disavow hate. Find faith in your fellow man, and in our ability to work together. I implore you, please stop with this defense of bigotry

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Get off your soap box. You don't know the first thing about me. The Left is who attached "White" to "Nationalist" to make it sound racist. The Left is the side bent on creating racial division. The Right just wants to be left alone.

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Get off your soap box. You don't know the first thing about me. The Left is who attached "White" to "Nationalist" to make it sound racist. The Left is the side bent on creating racial division. The Right just wants to be left alone.

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There is no "White" American nation. There is just America. We are all Americans, no matter what we look like, or what belief system we follow, or what our politics are. It's sad that I even have to explain that, but, given our entire conversation to now is sadly unsurprising.

This is truly disappointing. You refuse to disavow the Proud Boys and their publicly hateful rhetoric. I have provided 5 sources explicitly outlining their long history of racial and religious bigotry, and, like Donald Trump, you cannot bring yourself to say "I disavow this."

What do you expect to gain from this? Is there a reward for being complicit in the defense of hatred and vitriol towards your fellow man? Please, I ask, look inward. Disavow hate. Find faith in your fellow man, and in our ability to work together. I implore you, please stop with this defense of bigotry

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Get off your soap box. You don't know the first thing about me. The Left is who attached "White" to "Nationalist" to make it sound racist. The Left is the side bent on creating racial division. The Right just wants to be left alone.

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This is just so wrong. A nation is a shared language, history, geography and culture coalesced into a political entity. There is no race involved. If you believe a nation state is defined only by your race and not a common culture, then it is, by definition, racist.

The United States is a nation. It is not the White States of America. We are multicultural. To suggest otherwise is wrong.

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In practice, nationalism can be seen as positive or negative depending on context and individual outlook. Nationalism has been an important driver in independence movements such as:

* the Greek Revolution
* the Irish Revolution
* the Zionist movement that created modern Israel
* and the dissolution of the Soviet Union

Conversely, radical nationalism combined with racial hatred was also a key factor in the Holocaust perpetrated by Nazi Germany.

More recently, nationalism was an important driver of the controversial annexation of Crimea by Russia

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I've always thought of nationalism as being roughly the same a patriotism, but after reading the definition, it seems that a power element is part of it. Things get dicier when you add a racial prefix using that definition.

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There is no "White" American nation. There is just America. We are all Americans, no matter what we look like, or what belief system we follow, or what our politics are. It's sad that I even have to explain that, but, given our entire conversation to now is sadly unsurprising.

This is truly disappointing. You refuse to disavow the Proud Boys and their publicly hateful rhetoric. I have provided 5 sources explicitly outlining their long history of racial and religious bigotry, and, like Donald Trump, you cannot bring yourself to say "I disavow this."

What do you expect to gain from this? Is there a reward for being complicit in the defense of hatred and vitriol towards your fellow man? Please, I ask, look inward. Disavow hate. Find faith in your fellow man, and in our ability to work together. I implore you, please stop with this defense of bigotry

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Get off your soap box. You don't know the first thing about me. The Left is who attached "White" to "Nationalist" to make it sound racist. The Left is the side bent on creating racial division. The Right just wants to be left alone.

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This is just so wrong. A nation is a shared language, history, geography and culture coalesced into a political entity. There is no race involved. If you believe a nation state is defined only by your race and not a common culture, then it is, by definition, racist.

The United States is a nation. It is not the White States of America. We are multicultural. To suggest otherwise is wrong.

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Yes, I believe I just said that. The "White" label wasn't our idea.

Edit: I should also clarify that I believe in patriotism, by all races,and that I probably used the word nationalism too loosely as a substitute.

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There is no "White" American nation. There is just America. We are all Americans, no matter what we look like, or what belief system we follow, or what our politics are. It's sad that I even have to explain that, but, given our entire conversation to now is sadly unsurprising.

This is truly disappointing. You refuse to disavow the Proud Boys and their publicly hateful rhetoric. I have provided 5 sources explicitly outlining their long history of racial and religious bigotry, and, like Donald Trump, you cannot bring yourself to say "I disavow this."

What do you expect to gain from this? Is there a reward for being complicit in the defense of hatred and vitriol towards your fellow man? Please, I ask, look inward. Disavow hate. Find faith in your fellow man, and in our ability to work together. I implore you, please stop with this defense of bigotry

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Get off your soap box. You don't know the first thing about me. The Left is who attached "White" to "Nationalist" to make it sound racist. The Left is the side bent on creating racial division. The Right just wants to be left alone.

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This is just so wrong. A nation is a shared language, history, geography and culture coalesced into a political entity. There is no race involved. If you believe a nation state is defined only by your race and not a common culture, then it is, by definition, racist.

The United States is a nation. It is not the White States of America. We are multicultural. To suggest otherwise is wrong.

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Yes, I believe I just said that. The "White" label wasn't our idea.

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The structure of your question made it clear that you did not believe that White Nationalism was bad or racist (also evident by your inability to denounce the Proud Boys).

Also your claim that the idea of White Nationalism comes from the Democratic Party is perplexing since the idea of white supremacy and white ethno-states predates even then United States of America, with origins in the Enlightenment, and brought mainstream by Social Darwinism. An obvious historic example of the idea writ large is, of course, the Nazis, of whom the founder of the Proud Boys appears to be quite the fan.

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There is no "White" American nation. There is just America. We are all Americans, no matter what we look like, or what belief system we follow, or what our politics are. It's sad that I even have to explain that, but, given our entire conversation to now is sadly unsurprising.

This is truly disappointing. You refuse to disavow the Proud Boys and their publicly hateful rhetoric. I have provided 5 sources explicitly outlining their long history of racial and religious bigotry, and, like Donald Trump, you cannot bring yourself to say "I disavow this."

What do you expect to gain from this? Is there a reward for being complicit in the defense of hatred and vitriol towards your fellow man? Please, I ask, look inward. Disavow hate. Find faith in your fellow man, and in our ability to work together. I implore you, please stop with this defense of bigotry

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Get off your soap box. You don't know the first thing about me. The Left is who attached "White" to "Nationalist" to make it sound racist. The Left is the side bent on creating racial division. The Right just wants to be left alone.

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This is just so wrong. A nation is a shared language, history, geography and culture coalesced into a political entity. There is no race involved. If you believe a nation state is defined only by your race and not a common culture, then it is, by definition, racist.

The United States is a nation. It is not the White States of America. We are multicultural. To suggest otherwise is wrong.

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Yes, I believe I just said that. The "White" label wasn't our idea.

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The structure of your question made it clear that you did not believe that White Nationalism was bad or racist (also evident by your inability to denounce the Proud Boys).

Also your claim that the idea of White Nationalism comes from the Democratic Party is perplexing since the idea of white supremacy and white ethno-states predates even then United States of America, with origins in the Enlightenment, and brought mainstream by Social Darwinism. An obvious historic example of the idea writ large is, of course, the Nazis, of whom the founder of the Proud Boys appears to be quite the fan.

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You mean except for the part where the founder says "No offence Nazis, I don't like you. Sorry guys, I'm not into it."

When I say that White Nationalism comes from the Democrat Party, I am not referring to the original concept. I'm referring to the fact that displays of patriotism, often by groups of whites, are quickly labeled as White Nationalism by the media in an effort to spark racial division for political gain.

Drunk?