Aren't those companies still going to make tons of money even if we stop intervening? Haven't seen a proposal to cut defense spending

BMX Bandit said:

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Aren't those companies still going to make tons of money even if we stop intervening? Haven't seen a proposal to cut defense spending

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BINGO.

Exactly. Because he is not the kind that is also going to foolishly shrink the force. Just not waste it in indecisive wars with ROEs.

This impacts only a certain kind of political industrial grifter.

but but Mad Dog is a national hero!

Cassius said:

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Dear Libertarians

Trump is the closest president you will ever get to ending non stop military engagements and wars, especially in the ME.

You won't vote for him I know, cuz muh liberal.

Enjoy your fantasies.



Sincerely
Cassius

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You really know how to sway our vote.

Generals want to put their toys to use.

FPS_Dough said:

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but but Mad Dog is a national hero!

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Same Mad Dog who was on the board of Theranos?

If this is going to be our new foreign policy and I'm not saying it's a bad idea, why do we need to spend 700B on the military?

We certainly won't need as many soldiers, and sailors. As much as we've been spending maybe we can save 300 or 400 billion by cutting the pentagon budget.

Gbr1971 said:

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If this is going to be our new foreign policy and I'm not saying it's a bad idea, why do we need to spend 700B on the military?

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So all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs and make the planes and make everything else stay happy

EKUAg said:

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FPS_Dough said:

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but but Mad Dog is a national hero!

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Same Mad Dog who was on the board of Theranos?

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He was on that derail????

Verne Lundquist said:

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I'm a chicken hawk.

If we enter wars we have to do everything we can to get it won fast. I hate to sound so callous but if this country decides to go to war it should be as close total war as possible.

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That's not a chickenhawk. At least not the way used in 2000-2008. It meant the kind that want to go to war, with heavy ROEs, and they themselves and their kids are not in the battlefield. It did NOT mean those who want to just end it quick with maximum power.

Have often thought that Eisenhower's famous speech came because he discerned and realized the outlines of the `Viet Nam War mentality' even before it really came into being. He saw enough hints of it post-war and in Korea as vs the kind of war he had just helped win. The background of his deciding to say that is probably an untold story of sorts.

Maroon Dawn said:

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iluvpoker said:

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Cassius said:

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Dear Libertarians

Trump is the closest president you will ever get to ending non stop military engagements and wars, especially in the ME.

You won't vote for him I know, cuz muh liberal.

Enjoy your fantasies.



Sincerely
Cassius

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Dear Trumpet,

Trump is a liberal spender with record deficits! Check the defense budget this year vs when he was elected before fantasizing about your hero's spending restraint.

Sincerely
A real fiscal conservative

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So your solution is Joe "You Know The Thing" Biden?

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No, they're going to vote for someone else without a chance of winning, and blame it on Trump's "big government" positions, while making excuses for their candidates big-government positions a-la Gary Johnson and federal funding of planned parenthood and public accommodation laws.

The hypocrisy of the dope smoking, free love, anti war, protesting, baby boomer generation says it all...

Secolobo said:

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The hypocrisy of the dope smoking, free love, anti war, protesting, baby boomer generation says it all...

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Exactly. Libertarians have more in common with the hippies back in the 60's than they do with the Anti-Coms and porn burners

BMX Bandit said:

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Aren't those companies still going to make tons of money even if we stop intervening? Haven't seen a proposal to cut defense spending

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heard a career army artillery officer say the young officers in the Middle East saw more ordinance in their few years than he had in the 30 before it.

If only he were fiscally conservative.... Still voting for him, but stop printing money.

titan said:

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Verne Lundquist said:

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I'm a chicken hawk.

If we enter wars we have to do everything we can to get it won fast. I hate to sound so callous but if this country decides to go to war it should be as close total war as possible.

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That's not a chickenhawk. At least not the way used in 2000-2008. It meant the kind that want to go to war, with heavy ROEs, and they themselves and their kids are not in the battlefield. It did NOT mean those who want to just end it quick with maximum power.

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For my generation I took chickenhawk to mean someone who supports the war but didn't serve in Iraq or Afghanistan

Any bets Mattis is the one that has been "leaking" the Trump hates the military since he was banking on some fat jack during "retirement"?

Verne Lundquist said:

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titan said:

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Verne Lundquist said:

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I'm a chicken hawk.

If we enter wars we have to do everything we can to get it won fast. I hate to sound so callous but if this country decides to go to war it should be as close total war as possible.

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That's not a chickenhawk. At least not the way used in 2000-2008. It meant the kind that want to go to war, with heavy ROEs, and they themselves and their kids are not in the battlefield. It did NOT mean those who want to just end it quick with maximum power.

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For my generation I took chickenhawk to mean someone who supports the war but didn't serve in Iraq or Afghanistan

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Oh, that too applied, depending on how looking at it, yes. So you meant you literally were, as in didn't serve in those wars. For example it was hurled at Cheney and Wolfowitz often.

Got you. No contradiction then.

Tony Franklins Other Shoe said:

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Any bets Mattis is the one that has been "leaking" the Trump hates the military since he was banking on some fat jack during "retirement"?

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Still give him more benefit of the doubt then that. Hope doesn't make that statement look foolish in the future.

Gbr1971 said:

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If this is going to be our new foreign policy and I'm not saying it's a bad idea, why do we need to spend 700B on the military?

We certainly won't need as many soldiers, and sailors. As much as we've been spending maybe we can save 300 or 400 billion by cutting the pentagon budget.

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If you think the Middle East is our main focus then I would agree with you but Trump and his team were smart to listen to military advisors. Those Middle Eastern countries can't project their power for anything other than isolated attacks on our homeland thru acts of terror. Our focus has shifted to equipping and training our military to return to large scale all out combat in a multi domain operation (MDO) against near peer countries. No ME country can come close to matching our force across all domains, but there are two countries that can, Russia and China. The military thinks that much like the collapse of the USSR, Russia is spending so much they project Russia to collapse in the next decade or so but the long term threat is China. In a war today, the only real advantage we have over China is experience in fighting, but they have us beat hands down when it comes to technology, hardware and in the cyber realm. Our entire fighting force has to transition from fighting these small battles thru out the ME in pretty much one or two domains and to being able to fight in all domains, air, sea, land, cyber etc. To do that it requires a lot of money and the need is there because unlike Iraq or Afghanistan they can project their forces across all domains and across the world.

Remember his trip on Dec 26 to Afghanistan where he only wanted to meet with enlisted troops and not high ranking military officials?

Remember his story about being told by someone in Afghanistan not a General in DC how to win in Iraq and Syria?

He hasn't made friends in the top DC ranks but he wasn't trying too.

Maroon Dawn said:

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iluvpoker said:

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Cassius said:

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Dear Libertarians

Trump is the closest president you will ever get to ending non stop military engagements and wars, especially in the ME.

You won't vote for him I know, cuz muh liberal.

Enjoy your fantasies.



Sincerely
Cassius

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Dear Trumpet,

Trump is a liberal spender with record deficits! Check the defense budget this year vs when he was elected before fantasizing about your hero's spending restraint.

Sincerely
A real fiscal conservative

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So your solution is Joe "You Know The Thing" Biden?

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No! This thread isn't about votes, it's about Trump stance on the military. Trumpets are knob slobbing The Don based on his tweet. But his actions don't match his words. Try to keep up.