George Floyd "I Can't Breathe" Medical Reason-not a knee

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For many people, this isn't really news but I feel it needs to be stressed again after all of the carnage and destruction that has occurred since his death.

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These charges were based on the autopsy performed by the Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office and a private "re-autopsy" performed at the request of the Floyd family's attorney. Based on those procedures, the medical examiner issued a revised autopsy report stating that Floyd had died of "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression." In short, Floyd's death was allegedly caused by the manner in which the police had restrained him.

But the police defendants were charged before the medical examiner had received the report of Floyd's toxicology screen by NMS Labs of Horsham, Pennsylvania.

Then, on May 31, 2020, NMS Labs forwarded Floyd's toxicology report to the Hennepin County Medical Examiners' Office.
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At 7:30 p.m. on May 31, 2020, prosecutors "met" online with Dr. Andrew Baker, Chief Medical Examiner of Hennepin County, to discuss Floyd's toxicology report. Take a look at this recently released June 1, 2020, memorandum by Assistant County Attorney Amy Sweasy of that discussion.







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So there they were, staring at the just-received and damning toxicology report that blew to smithereens the whole prosecution theory that the police had killed Floyd. To their undoubted dismay, Dr. Baker, the chief medical examiner, had to concede that at 11 ng/mL, Floyd had "a fatal level of fentanyl under normal circumstances." He also conceded that the fentanyl overdose "can cause pulmonary edema," a frothy fluid build-up in the lungs that was evidenced by the finding at autopsy that Floyd's lungs weighed two to three times normal weight.

Read that bolded sentence again. There was enough fluid in his lungs to weigh two to three times their normal weight.

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This is consistent with Officer Kueng's observation at the scene that Floyd was foaming at the mouth and, as found at autopsy, that his lungs were "diffusely congested and edematous."

In other words, like a drowned man, Floyd's lungs were filled with fluid. And that was the obvious and inescapable reason why Floyd kept shouting over and over again that he couldn't breathe even when he was upright and mobile.
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This whole thing has been a farce since May 31, 2020. Charges should be dropped against the officers and they should sue the hell out of the state and county.
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It will be interesting how the timeline plays out. Possibly, this dismissal could happen in mid/late October, I don't know MN state laws on procedure/discovery etc. In Texas, this would probably be over in mid-Sept at the latest.
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Aggiebrewer said:

10 pages 6 bans & staff
Over on pages, push on bans, and I'll take the action on a staff appearance.
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Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
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Obligatory "He's right, you know".
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Aggiebrewer said:

10 pages 6 bans & staff
Over what? Medical facts? When I first read that memo a few weeks ago, I confess I missed the huge significance of his lungs being that full of fluid. It is of critical importance to understand why he kept saying I can't breathe. His lungs were filling with fluid because of a fentanyl overdose.
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Troutslime said:

Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
Yes. Federal civil rights division of DOJ needs to investigate fully.
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Would definitely help in explaining how distraught and straight up out of it he appeared on the videos.

This is going to be a ****ing disaster.
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So we didn't have to destroy the country? Ok good to know.
I identify as Ultra-MAGA
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Sounds like reasonable doubt as to cause of death right there.
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Our country is burning on a lie.
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When I saw the cop pinning him down with his knee, you really can't tell if he has enough force applied to be choking him, I always had my doubts that was the reason he couldn't breathe. He couldn't breathe because his organs were shutting down from the drugs.

When you OD or almost OD one of the first things difficult to do is breathe.

Now idk if the cops can be charged with negligence or something for not helping him but how can the courts prove they knew he needed help because of overdosing?

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It has nothing to do with age. We have an aging, glue eating, chalk enthusiast associate professor running around campus being a dumbass.
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Troutslime said:

Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
I thought the AG stepped in because the DA charged weren't "strong enough"? I think the original charge was murder 2/3 and manslaughter, the AG bumped it to muder 1/2 (don't remember exact charges)
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Just wait until thecops are found not guilty. It will make the Current rioting and looting look like child's play.
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Yep. Already knew this. It was obvious he was having an overdose on the video. He would of been dead in an hour on his own accord.
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cbr said:

Sounds like reasonable doubt as to cause of death right there.
Reasonable doubt? I'm talking there was no probable cause to even arrest those officers in the first place. There's been a lot of lying going on by prosecutors and AG Ellison.
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Probably gets off on manslaughter, then.

Defendant just needs to show a few dozen autopsy reports where that level of Fen was listed as the cause of death.

But, the behavior was still deplorable, IMO.
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cbr said:

Sounds like reasonable doubt as to cause of death right there.
Not in the twisted reasoning of Minnesota AG Keith Ellison.
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Icecream_Ag said:

Troutslime said:

Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
I thought the AG stepped in because the DA charged weren't "strong enough"? I think the original charge was murder 2/3 and manslaughter, the AG bumped it to muder 1/2 (don't remember exact charges)
Once they got that tox report back and matched it with the autopsy results, there should not have been any charges. No probable cause to believe that a crime had been committed by the officers.
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I am still calling for a porn blast


#showthosepuppies
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aggiehawg said:

Icecream_Ag said:

Troutslime said:

Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
I thought the AG stepped in because the DA charged weren't "strong enough"? I think the original charge was murder 2/3 and manslaughter, the AG bumped it to muder 1/2 (don't remember exact charges)
Once they got that tox report back and matched it with the autopsy results, there should not have been any charges. No probable cause to believe that a crime had been committed by the officers.
you really expect an AG that stood in front of the world saying he was gonna make an example of the cop, to turn astound with hat in hand and say the evidence shows no foul play????
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aggiehawg said:

cbr said:

Sounds like reasonable doubt as to cause of death right there.
Reasonable doubt? I'm talking there was no probable cause to even arrest those officers in the first place. There's been a lot of lying going on by prosecutors and AG Ellison.
Yep. You can not kill anyone putting a knee on someone's neck or back. As I have stated in the past, it is medically impossible.
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It shouldn't even be man slaughter, that's the point.
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There is a lot of assumption by "The Spectator" author.

The reason each point associated with the fentanyl dosage is written in the conditional regarding Floyd's death is because it's, well, conditional.

I'll go back to previous points: you don't put an excited man in the prone then leave him there.

That action is not changed by the tox report and still part of the conditional equation.

And yes - the charges are a farce and deserve to fail.
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This whole charade has been good for one thing: to expose the agenda of the BLM organization and their criminal/antifa Brown Shorts.
Law enforcement gained a lot of intelligence on the Brown Shorts and is collating it daily for the purpose of new prosecutions, as awful as this time has been.
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Tanya 93 said:

I am still calling for a porn blast


#showthosepuppies



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Icecream_Ag said:

aggiehawg said:

Icecream_Ag said:

Troutslime said:

Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
I thought the AG stepped in because the DA charged weren't "strong enough"? I think the original charge was murder 2/3 and manslaughter, the AG bumped it to muder 1/2 (don't remember exact charges)
Once they got that tox report back and matched it with the autopsy results, there should not have been any charges. No probable cause to believe that a crime had been committed by the officers.
you really expect an AG that stood in front of the world saying he was gonna make an example of the cop, to turn astound with hat in hand and say the evidence shows no foul play????
That's why the feds need to get involved. AG Ellison is violating their constitutional rights by bringing false charges against them. Malicious prosecution, abuse of power, violation of their official oath but mostly perjury on sworn court documents.
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Disgusting:

That the whole country went ape feces over this
That I'm only hearing this on TA and a a few other mews sites
MSM ain't touching it
That authorities willfully over charged and ruined Chauvin's life for this.

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I bet if the charges are dropped against the officers, it will cure Covid.
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aggiehawg said:

Icecream_Ag said:

Troutslime said:

Anything that you know of that would warrant an investigation into the DA's responsible?
I thought the AG stepped in because the DA charged weren't "strong enough"? I think the original charge was murder 2/3 and manslaughter, the AG bumped it to muder 1/2 (don't remember exact charges)
Once they got that tox report back and matched it with the autopsy results, there should not have been any charges. No probable cause to believe that a crime had been committed by the officers.
A 1000x this. Present this to a Grand Jury without specifying the race of the victim and the cops charged and it's going to be a no bill.
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