KorbinDallas said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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here's the liberal spin:

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Not a cop but...Why would you be charged with murder in Indiana if you Murdered someone in Wisconsin?

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Correction, looks like the murder charges are in Wisconsin.

Come on man....why would you be a geeky white guy online when you can flex your MAdingo fantasy cred.

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HumpitPuryear said:
That's your two dead guys in the same frame. From previous vids it's clear they are Antifa and are instigating violence.

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So these two were the ones shot in the street trying to attack Rittenhouse.

Who was the head shot victim and is he dead?

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From what I can gather watching the vids the red shirt guy was shot first in the head after a confrontation between Antifa and some guys with guns protecting the gas station. Red shirt guy was taunting and daring someone to shoot him. Looks like the red shirt guy might have attacked the shooter but that vid is really hard to make out and it looks like it occurred sometime after the initial confrontation. Shooter initially tries to render aid but is attacked and runs. Blue hat skateboard guy was with others that chased shooter down the street after red shirt guy goes down. Shooter fell down and was attacked. Skateboard guy hits him with skateboard and takes a round to the chest just before his buddy also gets his arm mangled. Shooter was apparently running from the mob and towards police to turn himself in but tripped and was attacked before he could make it to the cops that were responding to first shooting. He made it to the cops and tried to turn himself in but I guess cops didn't initially arrest him.

One question I have is where were the other guys with guns? How did shooter get separated from the rest? Seems like he somehow got separated and the Antifa decided to try and jump him, probably because he looked young and inexperienced. Guess they misjudged.

This kid is gonna have that night on his mind for the rest of his life unfortunately

I do see that which is a failure of the cops and state to protect the businesses, can you read ?

GeorgiAg said:

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So he is being charged in Wisconsin but was arrested for fleeing the state.

The call went out on 4chan for militia

GeorgiAg said:

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The call went out on 4chan for militia

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So this is going down tonight? Or is this in reference to last night?

ChiefKiefton said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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The call went out on 4chan for militia

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So this is going down tonight? Or is this in reference to last night?

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last night. Apparently there was a FB page that has been taken down

GeorgiAg said:

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The call went out on 4chan for militia

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Iran/Norko/China/Russia psyops going in for the kill

Sid Farkas said:

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GeorgiAg said:

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The call went out on 4chan for militia

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Iran/Norko/China/Russia psyops going in for the kill

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Nope, this has CIA written all over it.

I found another image of the arm wound. Not sure if I should post it.

Another graphic image of arm

Honestly I don't even support charges for the dude who attempted to pull his sidearm.

He had a reasonable reason to fear for his life as well. He isn't in the frame of mind to evaluate the legal complexities of the situation.

ABATTBQ11 said:

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This murder charge is stupid. I think a conviction on anything is going to be impossible. Red shirt guy quite obviously threw a Molotov cocktail at him and was trying to assault him. Same for the others who got shot. There is plenty of evidence to support self-defense.

I also think any prosecutor stupid enough to do this is going to lose the support of police. Their hands are tied, this kid is doing what they can't, and he gets charged for defending himself. Dumbass doesn't understand that today is fleeting, but the future is forever.

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Which is why I raised the grand jury issue. If this DA is just posturing to save his own skin, the first degree murder charge might be a ploy to get a grand jury to no bill the kid. One possibility.

Wisconsin has some funky homicide laws.

Video Timeline of Shooting:

https://streamable.com/dnero4

Wisconsin's Murder laws are very unique.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/940/I/01

940.01 First-degree intentional homicide.
(1) Offenses.
(a) Except as provided in sub. (2), whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class A felony.
(b) Except as provided in sub. (2), whoever causes the death of an unborn child with intent to kill that unborn child, kill the woman who is pregnant with that unborn child or kill another is guilty of a Class A felony.
(2) Mitigating circumstances. The following are affirmative defenses to prosecution under this section which mitigate the offense to 2nd-degree intentional homicide under s. 940.05:
(a) Adequate provocation. Death was caused under the influence of adequate provocation as defined in s. 939.44.
(b) Unnecessary defensive force. Death was caused because the actor believed he or she or another was in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that the force used was necessary to defend the endangered person, if either belief was unreasonable.
(c) Prevention of felony. Death was caused because the actor believed that the force used was necessary in the exercise of the privilege to prevent or terminate the commission of a felony, if that belief was unreasonable.
(d) Coercion; necessity. Death was caused in the exercise of a privilege under s. 939.45 (1).
(3) Burden of proof. When the existence of an affirmative defense under sub. (2) has been placed in issue by the trial evidence, the state must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the facts constituting the defense did not exist in order to sustain a finding of guilt under sub. (1).

940.05 Second-degree intentional homicide.
(1) Whoever causes the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another is guilty of a Class B felony if:
(a) In prosecutions under s. 940.01, the state fails to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the mitigating circumstances specified in s. 940.01 (2) did not exist as required by s. 940.01 (3); or
(b) The state concedes that it is unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the mitigating circumstances specified in s. 940.01 (2) did not exist. By charging under this section, the state so concedes.
(2) In prosecutions under sub. (1), it is sufficient to allege and prove that the defendant caused the death of another human being with intent to kill that person or another.
(2g) Whoever causes the death of an unborn child with intent to kill that unborn child, kill the woman who is pregnant with that unborn child or kill another is guilty of a Class B felony if:
(a) In prosecutions under s. 940.01, the state fails to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the mitigating circumstances specified in s. 940.01 (2) did not exist as required by s. 940.01 (3); or
(b) The state concedes that it is unable to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the mitigating circumstances specified in s. 940.01 (2) did not exist. By charging under this section, the state so concedes.
(2h) In prosecutions under sub. (2g), it is sufficient to allege and prove that the defendant caused the death of an unborn child with intent to kill that unborn child, kill the woman who is pregnant with that unborn child or kill another.
(3) The mitigating circumstances specified in s. 940.01 (2) are not defenses to prosecution for this offense.

It seems that 1st degree does not require premeditation. All that is required is the intent to kill and the death was not the result of Adequate provocation, unnecessary defense, prevention of a felony or coercion. At the very least this looks like a case of unnecessary defense (probably more likely justified self defense) so I'm not sure why they choose to go with 1st degree.

hbtheduce said:

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Honestly I don't even support charges for the dude who attempted to pull his sidearm.

He had a reasonable reason to fear for his life as well. He isn't in the frame of mind to evaluate the legal complexities of the situation.

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You're so naive to think the Left won't throw the book at the kid who rightfully defended himself.

We need to do what the Left has been doing for years: use the court system to implement our agenda and imprison our enemies.

That's a very good synapsis. Not sure how they convict him of 1st degree with that video.

Yea his arm is gone. Why is he wearing a paramedic hat?